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Lot 49 posted:I'd like a touchscreen kindle to get rid of the keyboard which I never use but I'm not buying something that doesn't have physical buttons for page turning. I agree with this sentiment. Upon first inspection, I'm still leaning towards the Kindle 3 w/3G as opposed to the new models.
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Full Kindle product matrix on this page: http://www.kindle.com The new Kindles are even lighter than the old one, which wasn't very heavy to start with. Also, they are now playing pretty fast-and-loose with the "special offers" model. Most of the prices being quoted are for that.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:07
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Man, I was just expecting them to announce a tablet, which I'm not really that interested in. I'm going to be all over that Kindle Touch though.
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Quick price listing: Kindle (Wifi only) $79 ($109 w/o Special Offers) Kindle Touch (Wifi only) $99 ($139 w/o Special Offers) Kindle Touch Wifi+3g $149 ($189 w/o Special Offers) Kindle Fire (Wifi only) $199 (Special Offers not available as far as I can tell) e: Kindle 3 is now called "Kindle Keyboard" the littlest prince fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 28, 2011 |
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Sep 28, 2011 16:11
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Gonna hold out on the fire untill a 3G version with a competitive data plan comes out.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:18
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Yeah I'm a little surprised there wasn't a 3G option for the Fire, that's a major turnoff for me.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:24
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So there's a new non-touch Kindle with a 5-way controller as well? Random. Personally I think I'll stick with my keyboard model. Gives me something to hold it by and I do use the keyboard fairly often. I'm guessing there's no 3G option for the Fire yet due to the potential for much greater data usage.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:32
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smackfu posted:Also, they are now playing pretty fast-and-loose with the "special offers" model. Most of the prices being quoted are for that. It seems to me like this might be a stigma-reduction strategy. People are probably wary of gifting something that is the cheaper version with ads, worried that it would appear tacky. But since the ads don't show up during actual reading, most people don't seem to mind once they actually use the device, so by treating the special offers version as the normal one, they make it seem more normal to gift it too.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:33
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They are definitely trying as hard as they can to spread these things all over. I'm finding it hard to resist buying the non-touch kindle right now since it's the only one I can have in my hands in a few days, even though I'm sure I'd prefer at least the touch wifi.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:38
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The new lit case has the light in the center up top instead of off to the right. Pretty nice. My pre-order is in.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:39
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I'm actually curious about the sales of the ad-supported vs. ad-free versions. If the ads were the slightest bit intrusive, or if I could use custom screensavers without a hack, I would totally spring for the ad-free. Otherwise I see no point (personally...I can see how any ads on a device might bother others).
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Sep 28, 2011 16:39
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WattsvilleBlues posted:New Kindles then.... Probably the latter, like the Nook Touch. The battery life isn't impacted much either.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:42
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You guys notice they dropped the price of the ad-supported keyboard version to match the Touch? (It was $114, wasn't it?)
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Sep 28, 2011 16:44
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commish posted:Man, $79 Kindle and $199 Fire pretty much punch B&N in the face. I do use the physical page turn buttons on my Nook Simple Touch. It's interesting that Amazon omitted those, but they're clearly going for a minimalist design.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:44
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BobTheCow posted:Yeah I'm a little surprised there wasn't a 3G option for the Fire, that's a major turnoff for me. I don't think you'll see one. With 'free' prime streaming of the media, there's no way they could make an agreement with a wireless carrier for that kind of data. E-books and kindle-style wikipedia web browsing, sure.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:44
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It seems as if the Kindle Touch isn't available in the UK. They're only advertising the non-touch Kindle (There needs to be a name for it). And it appears to be the non-special offers edition as well. It's £89. Which is a good price.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:47
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They made the memory smaller? And still no SD? I guess I'll be switching to a Nook when I decide to replace my Kindle 3. I've been planning on replacing it once the new generation came out because my SO wants to claim my K3 but I didn't think I'd be switching companies. Apparently ereaders weren't made for people with a lot of personal documents on top of their purchased books.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:48
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How many gigs of personal documents do you have?
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Sep 28, 2011 16:49
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Centipeed posted:It seems as if the Kindle Touch isn't available in the UK. They're only advertising the non-touch Kindle (There needs to be a name for it).
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Sep 28, 2011 16:51
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Nook seems like an odd choice, given the inroads Amazon has made. As far as storage goes, I can't imagine how someone can run into a storage limit with even 1GB available, unless you like to store your mp3 collection on your e-reader. Plus, with lending and now library access (which is fantastic), it seems like Amazon would be the clear choice, unless you're just a natural underdog rooter.
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Sep 28, 2011 16:55
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chippy posted:So there's a new non-touch Kindle with a 5-way controller as well? R And it's cheaper than the keyboard one and doesn't have a 3G option? I am utterly baffled by these decisions. edit: Oh, less storage and batter life. It's kind of a Kindle Lite. chippy fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Sep 28, 2011 |
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Sep 28, 2011 17:00
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Sperg Victorious posted:How many gigs of personal documents do you have? It's a numbers thing. They aren't big (7 or 8 mb) but there are many. I've just been sort of dealing with the collections thing and wishing there were a better option. I might have up to 2 gigs which won't fit. Really the reason I wanted an ereader is because I'm a very indecisive reader so I always need about a dozen books along with all my personal documents that I need for work. Really it's the SD that is the issue. As it is now I have to delete all my work documents every time someone else wants to use my Kindle. I was really rooting for a card I could just put those on and pull when someone wanted to see it. It would keep my lists shorter and more navigable instead of long and unwieldy.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:03
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I'm not that surprised they cut the storage, since you can just delete your books and reload them from the cloud if you ever need them again. OTOH, exactly what is the marginal cost of 2GB of flash? $0.50?
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Sep 28, 2011 17:10
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chippy posted:And it's cheaper than the keyboard one and doesn't have a 3G option? I'm not baffled at all, but both the Kindle and the Kindle touch appeal to me. I suspect I'll get the Kindle eventually, because I like to have buttons on either side. Especially if they don't sell the Kindle Touch in the UK within a reasonable time-frame. It's going to be annoying to have to get another case, though.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:13
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Incidentally, from the engadget Kindle Touch impressions:quote:The touchscreen is fairly responsive, and the thing flips through pages quickly with a swipe or a tap, refreshing about once every six pages or so, a rate about on-par with that of its chief competition.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:14
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Civil posted:I don't think you'll see one. With 'free' prime streaming of the media, there's no way they could make an agreement with a wireless carrier for that kind of data. E-books and kindle-style wikipedia web browsing, sure. Oh I didn't expect it to be included in the price like the current gen Kindle e-readers, but at least the possibility of a monthly data package.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:19
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So, are those black lines below the screen on the Touch edition a home button or what? I don't think it's a speaker, since they're in the rear of the device.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:24
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In case anyone's interested in how the Touch works with page-turning:quote:Amazon invented a new type of touch experience that eliminates the fatigue caused by continuously swiping to turn the page, and that allows readers to hold Kindle with either hand while still turning pages comfortably. With EasyReach, Kindle Touch users can effortlessly page forward in a book or a periodical while holding the device with either hand. Tapping on most of the screen area will page forward, the most common action done when reading; tapping in a narrow area near the left edge of the device turns to the previous page; and tapping on the top part of the screen brings up the toolbars for further options. This is another way that Kindle helps readers get lost in the author's world.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:25
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smackfu posted:Incidentally, from the engadget Kindle Touch impressions:
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Cicero posted:Wait, what does it do within that 6-page section?
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Sep 28, 2011 17:28
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I think I'd rather have the flash, I've completely tuned it out at this point. I expect it saves on a batter a bit though. I think the ghosting, when it does happen, looks horrible.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:30
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chapstickie posted:It's a numbers thing. They aren't big (7 or 8 mb) but there are many. I've just been sort of dealing with the collections thing and wishing there were a better option. I might have up to 2 gigs which won't fit. Really the reason I wanted an ereader is because I'm a very indecisive reader so I always need about a dozen books along with all my personal documents that I need for work. Really it's the SD that is the issue. As it is now I have to delete all my work documents every time someone else wants to use my Kindle. I was really rooting for a card I could just put those on and pull when someone wanted to see it. It would keep my lists shorter and more navigable instead of long and unwieldy. I still have a Kindle 2 (which I now will exchange for the newly price-dropped Kindle 3 - finally I can get rid of the screen damage) with 1 GB and I'm nowhere near using 1/5 of the space available. And I have nearly 200 (bought) books on it. I see your point regarding work documents and SD cards though. Decius fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Sep 28, 2011 |
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chippy posted:I think I'd rather have the flash, I've completely tuned it out at this point. I expect it saves on a batter a bit though. I think the ghosting, when it does happen, looks horrible. You really prefer that flashing to a millisecond of ghosting? That flashing is the single reason I refused to get an e-reader for a long time. Just annoying.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:33
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BobTheCow posted:Oh I didn't expect it to be included in the price like the current gen Kindle e-readers, but at least the possibility of a monthly data package. Hopefully you have a phone capable of wifi tethering or a portable hotspot. With so many different devices wanting a network connection, it's awkward and expensive to have multiple mobile data subscriptions.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:37
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The Silk Browser split processing thing is a weird feature on the color tablet. What problem is it trying to solve? Is wifi browsing too slow for people now?
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Sep 28, 2011 17:48
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Forget touch screens. I wanted color e-ink. That's really the only innovation I can think of that would make me want to upgrade before my current kindle breaks.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:49
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Mu Zeta posted:The Silk Browser split processing thing is a weird feature on the color tablet. What problem is it trying to solve? Is wifi browsing too slow for people now? Flash play maybe? I don't know, I would think a OMAP DC 1Ghz would be quick enough for pretty much everything the web offers nowadays.
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Sep 28, 2011 17:50
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Mu Zeta posted:The Silk Browser split processing thing is a weird feature on the color tablet. What problem is it trying to solve? Is wifi browsing too slow for people now? You're against faster browsing?
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Sep 28, 2011 17:51
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I think I just figured what everyone in my family is getting for Christmas! I hope they get the international versions of the cheaper Kindle out before the holiday season and there's enough of a supply.maxnmona posted:Forget touch screens. I wanted color e-ink. That's really the only innovation I can think of that would make me want to upgrade before my current kindle breaks. Color e-ink isn't really viable yet for devices in the $100 range and wont be for a couple of years atleast. The different color e-ink or any similar technologies aren't really all that impressive even on a prototype level from what I've seen anyway.
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I think I'm going to grab a $99 Touch for now, and see how it does with some of my PDFs (this would be awesome to keep datasheets on for electronic parts, goddamn). If it turns out to be horrible, well, I have another gadget around and I'll just get an iPad 3 next year. Asking around, the ads seem to be really unobtrusive so I'm a-ok with this decision.
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