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There's probably not a strong ethical component to still using old freeware code from an evil guy. But gently caress that dude anyway, IMO, there's great stuff these days for free too without any factor. Tokyo Dawn is a collective of developers who used to release freeware in the same era, now making great commercial products but with very fully featured freeware versions that are tremendous - I used to use the Classic Comp, but I'd never prefer that over Kotelnikov or Molotok, and Nova is a great parallel dynamic EQ; all of those are supported well, fully compatible with modern OSes and all that too. Bonus, if you end up really loving them there are "GE" versions that add even more capability, but not at the expense of the free ones feeling limited. And their Limiter No. 6 GE is really dope, great dynamics toolbox for precise control over that aspect of the final mix. You can often find their products for sale at like $10 or less each, too, which is just fantastic for the quality (even if some of them were initially released 6-8 years ago). On that note of late 2000s/ early 2010s freeware devs, for Windows users the VarietyOfSound dude has been hard at work the last year or two releasing modern versions of his old stuff, well worth checking out. Though I didn't really get along with the recent EpicPLATE release... Something weird about it, I like the old EpicVerb better personally, discontinued or not. But he has other tools that are cool if you're not on a Mac. Though if you want a really nice freeware reverb I think Stone Voices dReverb is top notch - could be a commercial product for the quality of its sound, and it has up to 100 seconds of reverberation time and you can smoothly automate the time control for some really cool momentary "huge swell" effects too. Agreed fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Aug 7, 2022 |
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Agreed posted:There's probably not a strong ethical component to still using old freeware code from an evil guy. But gently caress that dude anyway, IMO, there's great stuff these days for free too without any factor. Why thank you for all the cool input. Let me put a question to you. I thought this was a headless terminal when I bought it in a box of scrap, turns out to be not only a complete computer, but a fairly powerful one for a POS machine. You can see some of the specs on the screen there. I was thinking of dedicating this machine to music use, like running REAPER on a stick and one VST. But what should that VST be, given the power of this machine (and the fact that it's passively cooled)? ED: Imma connect a decent quality USB soundcard. petit choux fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Aug 7, 2022 |
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I was originally thinking SparkLE, Crystal, Pigments or my forever fav, LiveSlice. Given that it has a touchscreen, that might be good for liveslice.
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Speaking of quality, free VSTs, Analog Obsession and Viator DSP put out high quality, if resource intensive, VSTs free on their Patreons. I use AO's stuff pretty frequently. https://plugins4free.com/ is a great resource for legally free stuff. I check in on the What's New page once a week or so.
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Just a heads up on some stuff on sale/free. NI's FM8 is currently $10 over at Plugin Boutique IK's T-Racks Comprexxor is free through September 20th if you take a survey. Edit: The Comprexxor one is particularly cool for me because I've wanted it for almost a year, and other than that and the Sunset Sound reverb, I don't see any other T-Racks plugins that I feel like I absolutely need. I used to use FM7 back in the day and made some patches that still make for great sounds, so I'm excited to play with FM8 and see what its sounds will inspire me to write. DammitJanet fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Aug 14, 2022 |
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DammitJanet posted:Just a heads up on some stuff on sale/free. Cool, thanks! I think I just located some more free(?) MIDI VSTs. J's MIDI Tools. I have not tried these. For the OP who was requesting a MIDI scaler or translator or munger or whatever, pls. take a look at these. https://jstuff.wordpress.com/js-midi-tools/
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Are there any vsts that act like analog drum machines? I get overwhelmed by the options in a sample-based workflow; I’d rather find my drum sounds by tweaking knobs than hunting in a list of samples. Basically I’m trying to stop myself from buying a Roland 6-s
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FM8 is excellent, I've finished entire projects with that as the only synth. Plus the envelopes can be fine-tuned really well, to the point where it's excellent for sound design too. $10 is a no-brainer.petit choux posted:Cool, thanks! Thanks for these, they're closer but still not quite it! I've been experimenting with Cubase's tools as well, as mentioned upthread, and increasingly feeling like my use case is bizarrely specific. At this rate it looks like I'll just have to roll my own in Pure Data or something, so that's a fun weekend project for... whenever.
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giogadi posted:Are there any vsts that act like analog drum machines? I get overwhelmed by the options in a sample-based workflow; I’d rather find my drum sounds by tweaking knobs than hunting in a list of samples. I know this doesn't answer your question exactly, but whenever I want synthesised drums I use a separate synthesiser for each one. If your DAW supports it you can then group them up and set macro controls at the top level for all the important controls like the decay and pitch of each drum. Voila! A drum machine.
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I'm sure this has multiple effects layered into it, but can anyone point me in the right direction to recreate this kind of sound? I'm having trouble Googling for it because I've been calling it an ambient, psychedelic synth which has many different impressions by others. Seems like there is some kind of reverse delay with a long decay and probably any synth/instrument would work underneath that, so maybe that's what I'm really in search of... https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx_5ZVl102eyz2obSYVfJ59rQvVsIGegfd
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giogadi posted:Are there any vsts that act like analog drum machines? I get overwhelmed by the options in a sample-based workflow; I’d rather find my drum sounds by tweaking knobs than hunting in a list of samples. D16 has emulations of the 909, 606, and 808- you tweak the sounds just like you would on hardware. I own the drum synths Waldorf Attack and FXpansion Tremor (now discontinued) and have had some success with each. I believe I own XILS StiX as well, but I don't think I've ever actually tried using it. Arturia Spark 2 has a drum synth module- but it's a pretty complicated plugin with very lovely browsing capabilities.
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Groggie posted:I'm sure this has multiple effects layered into it, but can anyone point me in the right direction to recreate this kind of sound? I'm having trouble Googling for it because I've been calling it an ambient, psychedelic synth which has many different impressions by others. Seems like there is some kind of reverse delay with a long decay and probably any synth/instrument would work underneath that, so maybe that's what I'm really in search of... The main thing I'm hearing is a stringy synth run through a tremolo with a square oscillator and strong alternating stereo panning. Soundtoys Tremolator is very much capable of that sort of thing, as is Shaperbox. Or depending on your DAW you could possibly whip up something yourself with modulators or looped automation envelopes. e: Or maybe not square. I'm getting closer results from a sawtooth. Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Aug 15, 2022 |
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Microtoniq is my favorite drum VST currently. Also in REAPER, REAdrums is great and infinitely configurable.
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Drumatic is still excellent imo. It's laid out in a way that makes sense to me.
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Flipperwaldt posted:Drumatic is still excellent imo. It's laid out in a way that makes sense to me. Yeah, it's been a really easy-to-use and set up plugin, it's one I often use to try new hardware.
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Thanks for the tip about the FM8! I picked it up yesterday and am currently loving around with the insane amount of presets between the FM8 Factory ones and the FM7 Legacy ones.
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petit choux posted:Microtoniq This is the correct answer. Just buy all of their stuff.
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Rageaholic posted:Thanks for the tip about the FM8! I picked it up yesterday and am currently loving around with the insane amount of presets between the FM8 Factory ones and the FM7 Legacy ones. It imports DX7 presets and there’s like a kjghpillion of those anyway this likely means it’s going to get discontinued
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Yeah I was debating if I should buy it in the hopes it gets updated to M1 native, but then realized that it probably means they've decided to send it to the farm upstate
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I got it because it's the plugin version of impulse buying that Korg Opsix that everywhere blew out last week. Except, you know, 32x as cheap. I already have a nice DX7 emu from Plogue but I like how Native used to do their thing, I'm willing to pay $10 to bet I will like this too. FM synthesis is fuckin cool
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giogadi posted:Are there any vsts that act like analog drum machines? I get overwhelmed by the options in a sample-based workflow; I’d rather find my drum sounds by tweaking knobs than hunting in a list of samples. i like hydrogen when i can't be bothered to plug in hardware, there are lots of good sample libraries for it and the workflow is very simple. http://hydrogen-music.org/
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Oldstench posted:This is the correct answer. Just buy all of their stuff. Just in case anybody doesn't know, hardware synth company Teenage Engineering makes a hardware emulation of Microtoniq, called Tonic, which can import settings from the VST. It's not as powerful as the VST but still plenty of fun and has the standard sequencer all the pocket operators come with. Definitely one of my favorites from the Pocket Operator line. Also, there's an online tool you can access if you buy the VST that generates beats algorithmically -- I think -- from which you can download the drum settings and beats to your VST, and from there you can then download to your Pocket Operator if you like. It's all pretty together. Highly recommend. Laserjet 4P posted:It imports DX7 presets and there’s like a kjghpillion of those I got it also. Why are you cats worried about it being discontinued? Anyways, speaking of drums, about 10 years ago I was poor as gently caress and I really wanted to get into electronic music and what I thought that meant at the time was sampled drums. One time I took my Shuttle X-box and my PZM mic collection and went to a drummer buddy's house -- he's really a good jazz drummer, played for gospel groups in DC mostly, had a great set -- and mic-ed his set with like 5 Wahrenbrock PZM mics and just asked him to do some single hits and simple patterns and stuff, and I had a 8-track recording card. Well I just found what remains of those samples while searching for those VSTs. Cannot vouch for their quality. Could I interest anybody in some drum hits, my first, incomplete attempt at making a drum library? Would anybody like to try to fix them up? Free as in free beer. Stereo and mono wav files, if you use them a lot you should buy the drummer a bottle of wine or something. I'll eventually take them down so if you want them no time like the present. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jx5E_L65hiLw94ZTLRigj0Zp1QbxnYqs/view?usp=sharing petit choux fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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petit choux posted:I got it also. Why are you cats worried about it being discontinued? Best I have been able to find is a NI forum post where NI says that FM8 (and a few other things) will get a VST3 update "soon" and then get an M1 native version. The rest of the thread is users asking NI WTF "soon" means because they haven't commented on it since March. Although apparently you can use Intel AU plugins via Rosetta even when the DAW is M1 native? I guess that changes things if that is correct. I don't care if it's not getting feature updates, I just don't want to have to deal with running Reaper and everything else via Rosetta over a single plugin. Discussion Quorum fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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creamcorn posted:i like hydrogen when i can't be bothered to plug in hardware, there are lots of good sample libraries for it and the workflow is very simple. I've been using Hydrogen for years now to write out drum parts. I've moved to Steven Slate Drums for my recorded stuff, but found a quick REAPER track and midi template that works with most of the preset kits, so I start in Hydrogen, export the midi into REAPER, transpose a few notes to get them hitting the right drum or cymbal, and that's it. Hydrogen is the fastest drum machine program or VST I've found that gives me that functionality. As a heads up, mute groups will mute a sound if another sound in that group is played. Set your hi hats to a single mute group to get the pedal to close the open hat sound.
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Discussion Quorum posted:Best I have been able to find is a NI forum post where NI says that FM8 (and a few other things) will get a VST3 update "soon" and then get an M1 native version. The rest of the thread is users asking NI WTF "soon" means because they haven't commented on it since March. AUs run in their own process, so they can run via Rosetta while the DAW is running native. VSTs run in the host's process so you have to run the DAW via Rosetta to load Rosetta VSTs (and vice versa for native). I have seen reports of some people having performance issues mixing and matching native/Rosetta when using a mix of AUs/VSTs in a project. Not sure if it's a widespread thing or not though, just a heads up if you run into any issues.
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I guess FM8 will be relegated to that same "it exists if you want it I guess" zone that Absynth has been. Maybe FMX will appear at some point?
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Splinter posted:AUs run in their own process, so they can run via Rosetta while the DAW is running native. VSTs run in the host's process so you have to run the DAW via Rosetta to load Rosetta VSTs (and vice versa for native). That's good to know. I am pretty new to the Apple side of things and just avoiding anything that isn't native, because I haven't sunk much cash into any ecosystem besides Kontakt and Pianoteq. But for $10 I may take a flyer on it, now that I know I'll be able to use it somehow, even if there is no update.
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petit choux posted:
because that’s how I got FM7 a loooong time ago then FM8 was released like, a month later anyway I now got Komplete and I managed to hop on that specific bandwagon thanks to RivensBitch who hooked me up. Still have all the boxes too.
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I don't need another reverb.. Sountoys Little Plate seems to do the job.. so why did I impulse buy TSAR-1? It sounds really good, but I probably could use an EZmix preset instead. Does anyone have any interesting tips and tricks for TSAR-1 (or reverb in general)? What I save by not impulse buying stuff on Steam sales, I seem to waste impulse buying stuff on plugin sales... such is life... (And yes, I did get FM8) im_sorry fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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My interesting tip for reverb is to get Valhalla VintageVerb or Room. The good thing about this tip is they never go on sale so you won't get tricked into pulling the trigger.
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Discussion Quorum posted:That's good to know. I am pretty new to the Apple side of things and just avoiding anything that isn't native, because I haven't sunk much cash into any ecosystem besides Kontakt and Pianoteq. But for $10 I may take a flyer on it, now that I know I'll be able to use it somehow, even if there is no update. FWIW DAWs to tend to run fine via Rosetta. Obviously better if you can run everything native, but M1 Macs running via Rosetta were still getting better performance than Intel MBPs running native x86 versions in most cases. It's not a huge issue to have to use Rosetta. But yeah, not 100% sure how it works in Reaper, but in Live if you're running the DAW native, plugins that don't have an ARM version won't show up in the VST or VST3 folders at all, but they should still be visible in (and usable from) the AU folder. And then if you launch via Rosetta, you'll once again see everything in the VST/VST3 folders as well. My workflow has been to use Rosetta for existing projects that I started before getting an M1 (so I don't have to go swap out all my VST plugins which AUs, which I believe will result in loss of some settings), and use native (and AU if necessary) for new projects. There's still a decent number of popular plugin makers that haven't released ARM versions for their full lineup (or are just getting to that), but that's not too surprising as audio companies are often behind in these sorts of migrations (many being very small operations). Splinter fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Aug 16, 2022 |
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Splinter posted:My interesting tip for reverb is to get Valhalla VintageVerb or Room. The good thing about this tip is they never go on sale so you won't get tricked into pulling the trigger. I have about fifty reverbs and Valhalla is quickly becoming my go-to. Little Plate is my other one, but while it sounds amazing it kinda does one thing while Valhalla does a hundred. WRT the people concerned about M1 compatibility: I have a stupid number of plugins, softsynths, and other audio software. I bought a fully maxed-out MBP in January, with some trepidation about compatibility issues. The only place where it's actually been even noticeable is that installing my UAD hardware required a few extra steps.
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Cherry Audio released an Elka Synthex VST. https://cherryaudio.com/products/elka-x I just downloaded the demo for now but it sounds pretty good. I have an Elka Rhapsody 610 that I can compare the string sounds to. I'll never have enough money to own a hardware synthex though.
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I've had a really lovely day so thought "gently caress it, I could do with some new drums" and got Drumforge Ultimate and a couple of their mix plugins (Holy poo poo is drumflex good BTW) as they have a big sale on. It keeps crashing Cubase to desktop, regardless of what I'm doing, even from opening it in a totally empty project. Ive emailed support already. So I thought "hey maybe it's cos I am using the vst3 version". Cue reinstall of whole lot because I didn't install the VST2 (why would I, he asks foolishly?), which fails because I was outside for a cigarette during the 10 second window when windows account control spits out its dialogue after 40ish mins of waiting for it to all download again. I'll try again tomorrow. Never had any problems with any other Joey Sturgis related plugins whatsoever. authorising through iLok was absolutely painless, that was the one thing I was expecting to gently caress up horribly but no. iLok was fine.
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Are there any plugins that faithfully emulate the Lexicon 224 besides UA’s version? I’m currently waiting for Spark to be PC compatible but if there’s an alternative out there I should look at I’m all ears. Thanks! NonzeroCircle posted:I've had a really lovely day… Sorry to hear it!
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DammitJanet posted:Are there any plugins that faithfully emulate the Lexicon 224 besides UA’s version? There's Lexicon's own PCM Native reverb bundle, as well as maybe the Relab LX480 could come close? I have an absolute poo poo ton of Impulse Response files if you're into that, as well. Between those IR's, ValhallaDSP and Eventide Black Hole I feel no need to venture elsewhere personally.
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Man the Spitfire LABS people keep putting out amazing stuff for free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwE4m30YBk
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Speaking of Spitfire Labs, one of the founders, and I believe current owners, outed themselves loudly and proudly as a transphobe, so.... there ya go. gently caress. https://twitter.com/megancomposer/status/1566881704492531712?t=HWpD1c-UP6OvMJbI9OFgsA&s=19
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welp, that sucks. no $ for spitfire ever now until this dude is gone. why are english creatives so obsessed with setting their careers on fire because trans people exist?
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Speaking of Spitfire Labs, one of the founders, and I believe current owners, outed themselves loudly and proudly as a transphobe, so.... there ya go. gently caress. God loving dammit. As a palate cleanser: Modwheel has just released their new library for free for a limited time. It is big and loud and dirty. Requires the full version of Kontakt though. https://www.modwheel.co.nz/wreckage Trig Discipline fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Sep 5, 2022 |
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