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Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
What the hell happened to the fansubs? 8(

Anyway, to make up for the lack of content (and keep the thread alive :ninja: ) I'll post some pictures of my models. Note that other than the name "Rio Grande", I'm just pulling these titles out of my own...creativity.

FPA Flagship Rio Grande


http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BB_003.jpg
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BB_001.jpg

FPA Battlecruiser, Artemis class


http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BC_002.jpg << note Spartanians in semi-recessed bays
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BC_003.jpg

FPA Nereid-class Light Cruiser and Hades-class Frigate


http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/CL-FF_002.jpg
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/CL-FF_003.jpg

Models, before being painted or fully assembled: (big pictures)

http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BB-model.jpg
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BB-model-2.jpg
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BB-BC-CL-FF-model.jpg
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BB-BC-CL-FF-model-2.jpg
http://www.clan-lmssm.org/mike/LOGH/BC-CL-FF-model.jpg

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Apr 2, 2006

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Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
I think that the biggest deal in the "restored" versions is that a lot of the space-combat stuff is 3D animation instead of painted cel.

I can imagine that it wouldn't be hard to animate LoGH stuff--the spaceships are basically flying rectangles with the occasional fillet. And nothing transforms! LoGH would almost seem like a vacation after something like "Macross Zero".

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
From what I've seen, it's basically the same action and composition as in the original, only reproduced in 3D. The result is that you have the same action but without the perspective issues on starships that turn or maneuver on-screen. It isn't like "Revenge of the Sith" where each side has all 10,000 ships on the screen at once.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Babylonian posted:

Anyways, this was never broadcast stateside, was it? It looks pretty familiar to me.
I can't see this ever having been broadcast. It hasn't even been translated, for one thing.

You might be mis-remembering "Star Blazers" or "Robotech" (some of the episodes in the back half of "Robotech" have a giant spaceship fight that comes out of nowhere and goes right back there.)

Or you might just have seen this before..."LoGH" and Central Anime have both been around since forever. (Although it's kind of ironic that of all the early-nineties fansubber groups, CA is the one that survived, given that they were the butt of many a grammar joke.)

edit: I could be thinking of Arctic, yeah...I hardly even remember those days myself. For me, anything that happened before college might as well have happened to a completely different person...

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 13:47 on May 20, 2006

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

SeedyV posted:

I've caught up with the latest CA has to offer at last. The manner in which this series forms such bonds between myself and the characters portrayed is nothing short of amazing. It sounds pretty silly now but I threw out my own salute during Episode 72. What a hell of a way for Bucock to go.
I was kind of happy...well, you know what I mean...anyway, I was glad that if Bucock had to go, at least he got a heroic death in an exploding space battleship, rather than "oh woe is me my honor is besmirched I must shoot myself in the head to make amends". He died on his feet with his teeth in the enemy's throat, and there's really nothing more that a soldier can ask for.

As for the "democracy musings": It would be really interesting to see the funding structure that produced this show. Did they actually say "you will make X number of episodes", or did they just let production run until everyone was satisfied? It's clearly a great benefit for the show that it's so drawn-out; I get the idea that if this had been made today, it would be a 26-episode TV series, with each episode being 18 minute of CRAZY SPACE BATTLE and four minutes of "we must defend Democracy/The Empire/The Will Of The People/Our Profit Margin/Love/Peace/Justice!"

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Man of Wax posted:

CA claims to auto-seed any torrent with peers and no seeds.
I think that's just Scarywater. Personally, I wish that they would fix their "ul/dl" columns...I jumped on a torrent that was showing 0 UL / 24 DL, only to find that it was 12 Seeds and 2 Peers :wtf:

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
MOTHER loving GOD drat gently caress gently caress IT ALL TO GOD drat HELL translation: I just watched 82 and 83

Although this had been spoiled for me a loooooong time ago, in this very thread in fact.

But, still, it's such a ridiculous anticlimax..."oh look, after surviving all these tremendous space battles, Yang Wenli gets popped in the leg by some scrub who isn't even named, and he's too stoned to put on a drat tourniquet."

I'm definitely looking forward to the Imperial Fleet's reaction to this news. It's going to be fun to watch Reinhardt go :ssj:

Admiral Pi posted:

In fact, if they hadn't used the real Fork, the good guys would've had no way of knowing anything was coming at all. Seemed kinda like a pointless move on the Terraists' part.
Well, I get the impression that the Terraists wanted it to be them who killed Yang Wenli. If Fork had done it, then it would have just been some nut. But by letting Fork loose, the Terraists had a reason to get themselves invited on board the Reda II.

Man of Wax posted:

Just look at the EDs and it's pretty obvious which lone Alliance character survives the bloodbath that is LoGH.
Yeah; the first season ED is particularly clear. I'm going to be really sad when Frederica gets it, though. (assuming that she does. And if you know, DON'T loving TELL US, OKAY?)

It's nice to see Attenborough get all serious, although I suppose it means that we'll never see Pirate Dusty again...

edit: I'm glad that CA resisted the urge to translate that one line as "the terrorists will have won!"

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Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Jul 25, 2006

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Admiral Pi posted:

They could have just said "Hey, Fork's comin' for ya!" without, you know, actually bothering to release Fork. Plus, this has the added advantage of not tipping off the Iserlohn crew so they come out and slaughter you.
But they needed a plausible reason to come on board the ship. If they just show up and say "hey, Fork is coming, oh hey mind if we stop by for dinner?" then Yang's crew will probably not let them dock...or at least they'll keep their wits about them instead of being taken by surprise. (seriously, were there only like five people onboard the "Reda II"?) Also, they didn't expect Konev to get wind of the idea and warn the Iserlohn group...although, being fanatics, they probably wouldn't have cared, as long as they take Wenli down.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
...suddenly CA's fansub operation is deader than Yang Wenli

edit: I figured I'd upset people but I also figured that we didn't want the threat to die...

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Oct 2, 2006

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

One Legged Cat posted:

gently caress! Why did I scroll over this? I'm only up to episode 45! Oh gently caress it all
Sorry. Although I have little sympathy because I got spoiled at episode SIXTEEN...

Hokuto posted:

Sorry for the non-update bump, but this cosplay was too awesome to ignore:

http://www.cospa.com/comunity/cf_wf06win/nkm/15-1.html
Good job on the costumes, but I dunno...Oberstein is the only one that looks "right". Reinhardt's been hitting the :ham: pretty hard, and how the hell is Mittermeyer taller than Reuental?

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Oct 14, 2006

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

ilifin posted:

Holy gently caress this came earlier than I expected: LoGH 87

:dance: :dance:
I got so excited that I forgot to check where the file was saving, and it ended up in my tentacle-porn directory! LOL!

...What, you don't have a tentacle-porn directory?

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Nebakenezzer posted:

Excellent. I don't know about anybody else, but I always find myself watching the opening. Somewhat because I still expect the previous season's opening, but mainly to laugh at the bad engrish.
Ha. I'm just glad that CA didn't do a literal translation of the Republican anthem. It was silly enough hearing Poplan sing about how a frog would make us flee.

The_Guy posted:

92 is further proof that when it comes to manly men being unbelievably awesome, Legend of Galactic Heroes is leagues ahead of any competition.
Fuckin' A. We need to do some kind of time-warp back to the Eighties, when anime was made for MEN and not for early-teenage boys.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
Catching up on The Series So Far...

#89: This really should not have been so horrendously out-of-character. There's a lot of tragedy and grandeur in this story, and it isn't well-served by turning the Emperor Of The Whole Galaxy into a shoujo-manga teenager.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Num Lock posted:

Women are way out of his experience, considering that we have never seen any women in the Imperial Military and he spent most of his life in the fleet its not surprising that the Emperor of the Galaxy is a doofus when it comes to women.
Well, yeah, but it's kind of annoying to see the Emperor of the Galaxy acting like such a dweeb. The whole scene is really a lot more silly than I've come to expect from Logh.

quote:

Now if she was an enemy fleet he would have sunk her battleship if you catch my drift.
I think he already fired a few plasma torpedoes into her broadside, :giggity:

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
Battle of the Galactic Heroes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7-4V-Iof3o

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Tyndolionel posted:

If I had to watch it like that, I'd have trouble taking any part of the show seriously. Where was it shown like that?
Some guy did it as a joke...I found the link in the Anime World Order comments page.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

patricius posted:

That said, I actually kind of like the first two. Not because they're great songs, but it always seemed to me that they were being sung from Annerose's perspective and I liked that... since despite being so pivotal to the plot (insofar as she influences Reinhard's motivations and ambitions), she's not really a character we hear from often.
I was thinking that while I watched that video...sort of "oh yeah, y'know, despite Annerose being the entire reason that Reinhardt is where he is now, it's been about a dozen episodes since anyone has even mentioned her, and two entire seasons since she's been on the show..."

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
Iserlohn docking sequence set to music from "Space Battleship Yamato".

You know, someone could made a fun video by putting SBY stuff next to LoGH stuff...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuekWDj4P6k

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
On the other hand, WHAT THE gently caress JAPAN

(although it makes a bit more sense if you know the "momotaro" story.)

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Vernii posted:

This is one of the best fan videos I've seen for LOGH.
Wow, what a great site. I can't search for videos from a specific anime UNLESS I PAY THEM.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
It won't take you horribly long to get caught up. Just watch three episodes a night; that's hardly more of an investment than most people already make for continuing series.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
Man, these Terraist characters really need to die. I mean, like, really.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Chris Knight posted:

Woot, 2 new episodes down, and things are happening in a major way.
Seriously. When did LoGH get so fast? I expected at least three more episodes of angsting before these major decisions were made.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
I have to say, we have a very geographically-diverse group downloading this series, if my uTorrent pingbacks are any indication.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

abbad0n posted:

Episode 97 is up.

Easy on the loving SPOILERS, PEOPLE, JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

abbad0n posted:

Wait no more: episode 99
BUT THE SOUL STILL BURNS!

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Tir McDohl posted:

Holy poo poo, this show is amazing. I just spent the last few weeks catching up. Why does this show have to keep killing all of my favorite characters? :(
I seriously think that this show, if presented as thirteen one-hour episodes instead of a hundred half-hour episodes, would kill through sheer force of angst. It would make "Giant Robo" look like the Care Bears.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
I have a horrible premonition that the very last line of the very last episode will be "...and now, we start the final battle to decide the fate of humanity!"

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
I'm going on vacation starting the 4th of next month...I'm suddenly terrified that CA won't make it to 110 before then!

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
YAAAAY! :killdozer:

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
On the one hand, in this age of sub-only brick releases, it's possible that we might see LOGH on a store shelf. You could probably convince someone to do for LOGH what was done for VOTOMS...and I bet that, with the proper marketing, LOGH could really get a following. (Particularly if they translate the spaceship-data books and sell them to wargame wonks.)

On the other hand, Japanese property owners tend to have insane ideas about licensing fees. "Oh, the standard fee is 2000 Yen per episode. Yes, LOGH is over a hundred episodes; what's the problem? Just charge more money!"

On the gripping hand...it takes me a loooong time to repurchase shows that I've already seen in fansubs. PlanetES was in stores for two years before I bought any of it, and if it hadn't been for the brick I still wouldn't own all of it...

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
I have to say, I'd rather see them take a break than burn out. We've got more than a hundred episodes to watch and chew over. I really have to say that's enough for now.

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Robot Bastard posted:

On the other hand, WHAT THE gently caress JAPAN

(although it makes a bit more sense if you know the "momotaro" story.)

Origami posted:

LoGH is totally shoujo



Uberfrog posted:



:toot:

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

creamyhorror posted:

I noticed that earlier in this thread a few people commented that they didn't like the "new" animation on the DVD version.
It might just be a "flow" kind of thing; the sudden switch back and forth between the two could be a bit jarring. You get used to seeing one thing, and then all of a sudden it's different--but wait, now it's back again!

So, I marathonned the last dozen episodes during a long plane trip. Whoa. That, uh, kind of came out of left field! It's a bit unfortunate that LOGH succumbed to Whoops The Series Is Over syndrome, where the last bits of a series are vastly sped-up compared to the rest of it. However, that's a relative term; characters who'd get a quick one-line scene in other animes get plenty of screen time in LOGH.

Although I think that Mashengo had a better end than Schenkopp. I mean, come on--here's this battle-hardened combat-reflexes Total Badass, and he gets axed in the back by some scrub who was too scared to stand up? "Oh gee I hear these metallic clanking noises from behind me, but I'm too tired to turn around". STOOPID. Not to mention the implausibility of it--so here's axe-resistant space armor, but you can get enough of a swing to hack through it while in a prone position?

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Aug 13, 2007

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Lord Crapulus posted:

There's a CA release of a LOGH movie
Zuh-guh-WHA? Did this just show up, or has it been there all along and I missed it?

patricius posted:

Granted, they took a little dramatic license plausibility-wise with the way that they killed Schenkopp, but I didn't really think it was excessive. I don't think they could've done his death in a conventional way.
Well, yeah, but whatever happened to the "not killing him" option? Not only was there not a reason for him to die, but they really had to stretch things to have his death work out the way that it did.

edit: ironically, my spoiler tags were broken because I forgot to put in a backslash...

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 05:55 on Aug 14, 2007

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
Formats: Whatever. I just want to push the button and have it go.

For new guys: heh, heh. While you're watching this series, imagine waiting FOUR MONTHS to get the next episode...

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Schwarzwald posted:

I finally made myself some time and watched the first episode.

Are all 100+ episodes as good as the first one?
Just about. LOGH: Teen Romance Edition was a bit silly, though.

edit: :sigh: I wish Alba Creates would re-pop some of their LOGH stuff...I have money now, but HLJ is sold out of everything! My dreams of recreating the Black Lancers in resin will never come true...

Robot Bastard fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Nov 28, 2007

Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma

Eggn0g posted:

Just finished Episode 16, and it looks like shits about to hit the fan
You have no idea. By the end of this series, the fan is no longer even able to turn, due to the amount of poo poo that has hit it.

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Robot Bastard
Jul 14, 2004

by Ozma
It might be a speed thing; like, anything moving fast enough to penetrate heavy armor would set off the Zephyr particles, and of course any directed-energy weapon would do it.

spoilers for this discussion: Mashengo's death should tell you how important it is to have Zephyr particles spread around; otherwise they just break out the lasers and waste your rear end no matter how much armor you've got.

Of course, it's really more like "the author really liked the idea of dudes fighting with axes, so he made up an extremely vague justification for why this was the case." See also Dune, where we have a universe with lasers and artillery and nuclear bombs and yet everyone fights with knives.

And the real argument in favor of axes and armor isn't verbal at all. It's the fact that without axes, we would not have THIS:

The Therminador posted:


:toot:

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