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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Is the performance/bass extension difference between 5" monitors and 6" monitors worth the premium in cost and size? I'm looking at the new versions of everyone's favorite budget JBLs (305p/306p), and while I'd love to have a pair of 8" monitors I don't have the space in my current home. I don't plan on staying in this place for more than another year or two, and I'll probably get a set of 8" speakers eventually.

I mainly want to play synthesizers through them so I care about bass extension, but saving $100 and some desk space is valuable too.

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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MrSargent posted:

Cross-post from the Audio interface thread but thought this might be a good place to ask as well.

Hey guys, my grandparents were getting rid of some old stuff and asked me if I wanted their old Yamaha R-500 Stereo Receiver. It's in seemingly perfect condition so I grabbed it with the intention of integrating it into my setup. What I am trying to do is run my turntable through the receiver, and then into my audio interface so I can record into Ableton. I thought it would be nice to be able to adjust volume and eq settings via the receiver prior to recording. Currently, this is how I have it set up:

Turntable -> Receiver Phono Input via RCA cables



Receiver Tape 1 Out -> Line Inputs (5/6) on Scarlett 18i8 using cables that take the RCA and convert to 1/4".

The front of the receiver has options for the Input and Receiver Out and I have them both set to Phono. I was getting static at first but now I am getting sound, but noticed a few weird things. First, on my Focusrite MixControl, I only see sound coming from Input 5 and nothing from 6.



I then tried just plugging the turntable into the Aux Input on the receiver and flipping it over to Line Level. Switched both the input and output on the front to Aux and now I am getting sound from both the 5/6 inputs. However, I notice a little bit of static at random point and adjusting the dials on the receiver doesn't seem to have any effect on the sound. One of the main reasons for doing this was so that I could adjust use the volume and EQ knobs on the receiver to manipulate the sound before recording (kinda like a mixer).

Anyone have any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?

Why is Rec Out set to “Tape Copy 1->2?” Was it set that way when plugged into the focusrite? Wouldn’t that be treating Tape 1 as an input on that loop (a feature on some high end Yamahas designed for copying tapes while listening to whatever you wanted) and not the turntable?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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MrSargent posted:

Well thanks for letting me know, I didn't realize those controls worked only for the speakers. So really, there is no reason to do what I am doing and I should just use the receiver for something else like hooking up a turntable to speakers somewhere else in the house.

It’s a very nice receiver so definitely do that if you’re not gonna record with it. Don’t just junk it.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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MrSargent posted:

Oh yah I’m definitely going to keep it, it’s in great condition. When you say “record with it”, is there a specific application you are referring to?

The stuff you were trying to do with it/using it to connect a turntable/input device to a computer or tape deck.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Coohoolin posted:

Hey guys, I have a specific question that might have been answered before but here goes, hoping you can help.

I want to make some mandolin lesson videos for a youtube channel. I have an android smartphone with decent a decent camera for recording video, but I want to know if it's possible or even easy enough to connect my H4 Zoom audio recorder to my phone in order to use it as a microphone for my phone so that I can record videos in one go with good audio without having to combine audio and video in post (as final cut pro does my tits in). I've found some online tutorials about connecting H1 zooms to phones, but they all say to download a specific USB recording app that's just for audio.

Has anyone done anything like this?

Does iMovie allow separate audio tracking? Probably way easier for your needs if FCP is too daunting. The truth is that most YouTubers with at least decent audio and video are either recording their audio separately into their computers/recorders and combining them with camera footage or they’ve got good mics and good webcams going into their computers/good mics into their phones or whatever and recording like that. I have no clue if you can use the H4 as a phone mic but maybe it’s worth picking up a decent cheap phone mic instead or using the H4 as a USB computer mic and picking up a decent HD or 4K webcam for $20-$200.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Yeah- Black Friday maybe?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Agrikk posted:

Can anyone recommend me a pair of wireless over the hear reference headphones for recording and mixing?

I am trying to clean up my working environment by getting rid of cords and whatnot on my desk and I'd love to have a set of cans that doesn't boost the bass like many gamer headsets.

For reference, I'm currently using KRK KNS-6400 and love them. They fir great, are lightweight and don't muddy up the mix with their own bias.

People record with their AT-M50x, I dunno if they count as sufficiently “reference headphones”. There’s a new Bluetooth version out that supposedly sounds just like the wired.

I’m sure you already know that they’re bass-forward but not nearly to the level of something like Beats, to say nothing of gamer cans.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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CRAYON posted:

I'm looking to get something that will let me record stuff outdoors for use as samples. Anything ranging from birds chirping to me smacking a trash can.

I was super close to getting a Zoom H1n or Tascam DR-05 (with a windscreen or deadcat) but after talking to someone at Guitar Center I am pretty torn on what I should be looking at. They claimed that the cheaper models aren't that great for anything more than dictation and also said that no matter what model I went with I should use an external mic, which is something I'm really not interested in doing at this time.

I basically just want something portable that I can take on walks to start building a library of found sounds. Any help would be appreciated.

Try doing it with your phone first. See how you like the quality of the samples you get that way. Dollars to donuts something like an H1n will be exponentially better. If I was recording a band or something then yeah I’d want something much better (or more/better mics), but that dude was selling you.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Tbh, when I said “record on your phone” I literally just meant “use the built in mic or maybe the inline mic that comes with your headphones to record and see how you like it. It won’t be stereo or particularly high fidelity but, at least for my purposes, it gets me to where I need for like 90% of my current sampling uses.

I also tend to process the poo poo out of my samples and layer effects on them anyway though, so YMMV.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Yeah have you considered listening to death grips more

here mr splitfoot, do as i do

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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badCombina posted:

Seriously - How hosed am I nowadays if I try to do music production on windows?
Any recommendations - pro tips?

Not hosed? Use Ableton or whatever as long as it’s not Logic? It works the same I’m pretty sure.

Note that I haven’t seriously used Windows outside of Bootcamp poo poo for 12 years so what do I know.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Nigel Tufnel posted:

Here's a dumb question. There's a sample I want to rip off a video online.

Legality aside, I can't seem to get Logic Pro to capture system audio. I have a Focusrite 2i4. Can I use a guitar cable to go from the headphone out to one of the inputs and tell the OS to output audio to the Focusrite? Am I going to blow something up?

You can’t use a guitar cable because your average guitar cable is TS, and therefore mono. You want a stereo TRS cable but yeah that should work.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I'd say you'd have to have a really dedicated userbase (which Ableton seems to have) to pull off limiting the number of tracks so much between versions, when things like Reaper exist.

Ableton beat most other daws to some features years ago and they scored a coup with their hardware integration/Push. Ableton+Push was a much more complete package in terms of what you could do than Maschine. They pulled in a lot of people who’d bought and then sold Maschine Mk1’s.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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I’m gonna pick up a new set of 305P’s and I wanna choose- should I get two of the limited edition ones, or one limited and one standard white?

The limited ones supposedly came out in June but I can’t find any real-world photos of them or posts about them.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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One of my mixer's stereo in channels has both L/R RCA and L/R 1/4 inch TS jacks. I want to buy a cable to easily connect my iPad/computer/phone/any other consumer product with a 3.5mm stereo line output. Should I buy a 3.5mm-to-RCA cable or 3.5mm-to-2x 1/4"? Is one going to give me noticeably better performance? They're both priced the same.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Cool cool.

Last question, for now:

My mixer has two channels with switchable Mic/Hi-Z/Instrument Ins. Do I need a DI box/am I better off noise-wise getting a DI box or am I fine plugging bass/guitar straight into the mixer (with the appropriate setting)? This would be to use with software amp sims.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
I just got a pair of the JBL 305P Mk2 (the fancy special edition amazon exclusive ones with the colorful screen print) and I really really like them. Would recommend any variant of them, and if you like the look of the screen printed ones the quality of the print and general fit/finish are excellent.

I understand that they’re a bit colored for a lot of people and if you can afford to spend more you probably should, but they fit my needs and budget marvelously.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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I have a soundcraft usb interface/mixer that lacks a power switch, as well as two 305 mk2s with power switches on their backs. Can I switch all three on/off at the power strip or do I have to switch everything individually?

Right now the soundcraft is plugged into a powerstrip that gets switched off since I’m not physically unplugging that thing to power it off.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
Is there any "default" or included effect in a modern DAW (let's say Ableton, for the sake of this question) for which the general consensus is that it's irredeemable garbage and needs immediate replacement with a plugin or outboard effect? Or have we reached commodity status on included effects in DAWs?

I guess what I'm asking is--once you've plunked down the money for a 'lite' version of Ableton--or even better, gone ahead and bought a standard or complete license--do you really *need* to shop around for (basic, "bread and butter") VSTs/AUs? Is there a price point where that starts to be noticeable? Like "no for stuff under $10 but yes for stuff that's over $60"? And for that matter, is a free/shareware/cheap plugin going to be notably better than something that shipped in your DAW?

Let's assume that I'm not talking about plugins that have unique or bespoke functions/features. Like, if there's a tape delay that ships in Ableton is it dumb to download free/cheap tape delay plugins?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Anime Reference posted:

Alternatively you could lean into it and make it a thing. One of my favorite little details of Radiohead's "Motion Picture Soundtrack" is that you can clearly hear the harmonium bellows pumping out of sync with the tempo of the song.
I can't recall ever hearing footswitch clicks on a song before and while deliberately adding them in would be dumb, if they arose naturally out of the recording circumstances I think it's a neat little artifact.

The dark counterpoint to that would be every acoustic recording made to sound “earthy” or “roots-y” that leans hard into the sounds of the player sloppily sliding their fingers all over the strings.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Whale Cancer posted:

Looking for a budget laptop capable of doing the following. I have a dedicated desktop but having a laptop will help me out due to life stuff. Will be using for recording/mixing. Would like to stay under $700 if possible.

Reaper
EzDrummer/Superior Drummer
Bass - VST Amps
Guitars - up to like 8 tracks all vst amps and fx
Vox - VST

How much can you stretch your budget?

$300-$400- 2020 MacBook Air Quad Core. Not what you want financially but this computer will probably last you the better part of a decade.
$100-$200- 2018/2019 MacBook Air Dual Core, especially an official refurb or very well-maintained used machine if you want to save or maximize dollar value. The butterfly keyboard is the worst but you get a free three year program with it. I think it’s probs worth the tradeoff for the better CPU and retina screen.
$0- pre-2018 MacBook Air, ideally a 2017, look for official Apple refurbs. These can be had for like &500-$700 last I checked. They’re bulletproof as hell and plenty fast but also really outdated in many ways. No Retina display, no quad core. On the plus side, you get an SD slot, USB 3 A-style ports, and the best keyboard Apple ever put in a laptop (aside from the 2012-2015 MacBook Pro, which is the same keyboard with slightly deeper travel). Probably one of the best laptops ever produced, still really excellent to use (LTT recently did a whole video about why it was still the best selling laptop, period, in like January) but the new ones are better and way more future proof.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Wowporn posted:

What would people recommend as babby's first beat making app? I wanna try making some drum beats but am pretty inept at using music making software. Not looking to make anything complicated literally just like a 5 piece drum kit that I can sequence would be great. I tried looking at iPad apps but it was hard to tell what was more intuitive for a beginner without just being a dumb 'hit button makes full bar of default trance beat' stuff

Patterning 2

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Then get Korg Gadget at some point

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Propellerhead reason is still free, right? Might be a bit too dumbed down, but I used to have a lot of fun with it back in the day.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Whale Cancer posted:

I can stretch it a bit. I was trying to avoid Mac as all my plugins are VST and I don't have AU plugins for some of them.

I'm familiar with PC specs as far as ram, hd space I guess I'm just ignorant to the speed of mobile processors.

MacBook Air is the standard by which literally all other $1000-or-less laptops are held and MacOS is totally fine with VST. Honestly, music making is like the one area where MacOS is arguably the first class citizen guaranteed to work mostly out-of-the-box with whatever compared to Windows.

If you’re looking at the budget end you’re going to have a much bigger pool of Mac users to troubleshoot from than people using x-low-tier Lenovo. Probably not an issue, but the Air is the benchmark for a reason.

Alternatively I guess I can recommend a Microsoft Surface product. I just don’t dig the <$1000 PC laptop space at all. And above the Air/Surface Pro/Surface Laptop you get into Dell XPS/Macbook Pro territory.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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A MIRACLE posted:

Are the built in mics on the zoom recorders any good? What about the mic on the SP 404?

Yes. Yes.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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I have a (currently not in use because of a move) push 2 and Live 9. It’s the academic version of Live so I can’t upgrade. Is it worth paying retail/discounted retail for 10?

massive spider posted:

This makes me feel like a hack for asking but is there a good "chord helper" app? Like an app where you can tell it the key you're in, and the chords you're using and it goes "oh you like those ones huh? Here are some more interesting substitutions and variations you may not have considered?" bonus if it can export to midi.

Have you looked for (e)books of chord progressions?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Mister Speaker posted:

Peculiar issue with ProTools since I upgraded to OSX Mojave: My I/O settings have all been made inactive, they're all greyed out and italicized in the I/O panel. Thoughts?

You sure you upgraded to Mojave and not Catalina?

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Should I be recording at 96kHz+ (192kHz?) or is 44.1/48kHz good?

I recently found out that the multitrack USB chip in my mixer only tops out at 44.1/48 24-bit (Soundcraft Signature 12 MTK), while the cheaper version that comes with 2-channel USB can go all the way up to 192kHz.

I generally usually record one thing at a time or the master channels, and I'm wondering if I should go with a different recording solution than my DAW straight from the mixer.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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does the VST work in Catalina? Does Audacity work in Catalina, for that matter? Last I heard neither did.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Weird BIAS posted:

Yeah there is a new update for it, it works in Catalina now.

audacity or the VST? Last bit of news regarding Catalina and the VST is from February, and it looks like Xeniakos wasn’t planning to do more work on it

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Hustle Hound posted:

speaking of scarletts, my 2nd gen solo's usb-b jack is starting to crap out after only 2 years. i transported it a bunch for an amateur recording project, so maybe it was just too delicate to be occasionally carried in a backpack. it's very annoying when the jack is the weakest piece of electronics, though. it almost feels like planned obsolescence.

anyway, my question is: which audio interfaces are actually durable enough to last several years, even if they're moved around a bunch? the next interface i'd want would have 2 or 4 mic/line/inst inputs. the 3rd gen scarletts look like they have a microusb connector instead, which is promising, but they haven't been around long enough to prove their durability. if someone can vouch for the general longevity of microusb over usb-b, that'd be useful.

i don't have money to spend right this second, thanks to covid, so i'd just like to have a good ballpark for what i would need to spend on something that lasts a long time.

Have you opened it up and looked at the jack? If it’s physical damage it should be visible/tinkerable. Like if there’s damage to the plug or its surrounding connections you should be able to find it and jiggle around some loose solder or whatever.

Have you looked at the cable? The damage might be there and not in the interface itself. I’ve had bad luck borking USB-B connectors with too much sharp bending at the seam between the connector and the cable.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Hadlock posted:

Is there a way to remotely turn on my powered monitors (Yamaha HS-8) without them making a *Pop*THUDDD*crackle* noise

If I turn them on using the switch on the back they come on quietly/perfect as you'd expect from Yamaha. The problem is that the monitors are 24" deep and a pain to turn on/off every day so I just leave them on 24/7

We recently had a weird power outage where the power went on and off about 8 times. By the third time it happened I was able to track down the pop/thud noise and turn them off at the power strip, but then forgot and it made awful noises again when I turned the strip back on a couple hours later

TL;DR I'm dumb about tiring turning powered speakers on/off, ha;lp

I had a similar question about my 305s, though they don’t seem to pop as often as your HS8s (I usually turn down the monitor output vol from the mixer first tho, do you do that?)

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Hadlock posted:

Yeah they're already plugged in to surge/power strips. Flipping them on/off at the strip causes the krak-pow noises. Flipping them off at the panel on the rear is the only way to power them off without the noise

Not sure what you're suggesting by putting it on a light switch? Are you suggesting it is a cleaner contact to the mains power? This seems to happen independent of external switch type

Do you turn down the gain/volume on your interface when you shut them down? I find that tends to help with mine.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Johnny Truant posted:

Random question: I was looking at Ableton's website cause my homie mentioned that they're offering 90 days of free Ableton Suite, and I saw that they have a student discount. Their process to get it is basically "purchase Ableton, then verify you are a student". Does anyone know what this verification process entails? Cause if it's just having a .edu email address it might be worth it for me before I lose mine when I leave my current job...

Word of warning- I bought the student version of Ableton 9 several years ago (back in like 2014/2015) and I wasn’t able to simply upgrade it to V 10. If I wanna upgrade I have to buy a full new version, which I wouldn’t have needed to do if I’d bought a retail copy of v9.

No clue if that’s changed with Student licenses for Ableton 10.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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chippy posted:

That's odd - I bought Live 9 Suite on the student discount and was able to upgrade it to 10.

e: Just checked my email in case I was misremembering this, but no, that's what I did.

Weeeeiiird. I’m gonna look into that then, because I’d love to be able to upgrade instead of re-buying it

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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You have to reverse the polarity. Then you need to make sure that the flux capacitors are fully charged and engaged, and then you’ll be able to hack the mainframe.

(wave polarization is the coolest poo poo, and rotational/circular polarization is even cooler)

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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A MIRACLE posted:

best pocket recorder for nature hikes? for like birds and stuff. doesn't have to be too fancy. should I just get a condenser attachment for my phone?

iPhone mic is good and probably cheapest

Otherwise, look at Zoom and Tascam and pick whichever model has the best reviews/price/size/feature ratio for your liking, they’re all good at this point.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Random curiosity question: say you aspire to one day own a reel-to-reel, because you’re stupid, and one day you browse craigslist as one does.

You see three machines on offer for roughly the same price: one is stereo/2 track, one is 4 track, and one is 18-track.

All three are the same manufacturer (let’s say Fostex or Tascam) and age, and all three have recent maintenance work and are in good shape.

Assuming that the tape size is the same, is the available recording quality going to be commensurately better/worse inverse to the number of tracks (ie, is a 2 track machine going to give you much better recording quality than an 18 or 24 track)?

If you’re going to buy one, is it better to just get a high quality (within budget) stereo machine than something multitrack? Is there a sweet spot (4/8/etc vs 2)? In 2021, you wouldn’t be bothering with recording multitrack to tape (I certainly wouldn’t be). But downmixing or mastering/“mastering” to tape, or recording one-off tracks/doing experiments with one or two channels seems much more realistic.

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trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
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Barry Foster posted:

Hi guys, I'm sorry if this is a really common question, but I was wondering just how decent lower priced monitors really are these days. I'm getting back into home recording after a, like, 16 year hiatus. I've got a behringer UMC404HD for recording guitar/vocals/etc and a Akai MPK mini for beats and synths and things (this is new to me and a lot of fun!). However, the only way I can listen to what I'm doing is with headphones right now. I've got a pair of old AKG K270s which seem pretty good to me, but sometimes you get tired of wearing headphones after awhile.

Monitors like the IK iLoud Micro, M-Audio BX5-D3 and inevitably the KRK Rokit RP5 G4 seem to get good reviews, but then I see what Reddit has to say and as far as they're concerned anything below £500 might as well be tin cans on strings. I know that Reddit tends towards dickhead elitist audiophiles, but it's hard to know who or what to trust. I don't need ultra high quality/professional quality monitors, but I would like something better than bare minimum and that would keep me going for awhile. Any recommendations?

Adam Audio T5V/7V/8V, JBL LSR305/6/8 Mk 2, Yamaha HS5/7/8

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