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OK, so, if the gods destroy the world, the souls go happily to the afterlife (unhappily for the dwarves) but if the Snarl escapes, all the souls get eaten... ...so the gods destroying the world is a good thing? This changes everything.
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MikeJF posted:We've known that since the godsmoot, it's the main reason they want to prematurely destroy it. Yeah... but at the Godsmoot, the underlying assumption (for the reader) was that the Snarl's escape was not inevitable. Now it is.
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Sep 7, 2018 08:59
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I think the snarl is just the real world, and it's destroyed countless game worlds as campaigns end due to lack of time or interest. Rich has broken the fourth wall many times, but I really don't think he'll go there.
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Sep 8, 2018 23:45
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Cuchulain posted:I've been in this cursed thread since it's inception and this is the worst post in it yet. Awesome, but not realistic. Xykon is a badass by normal standards, but Thor could obliterate him with a snap of his fingers. (assuming of course that this doesn't break any of the gods' zillion rules). Incidentally, does Rich plan to run OOTS indefinitely, or is there a planned ending?
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Sep 12, 2018 07:24
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Chaotic Fizzy?
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Sep 12, 2018 20:30
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Does anyone else remember Acid Reflux?
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Sep 27, 2018 20:04
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:I guess that's easier than trying to play Silicoids like the Psilons. And, yeah, I haven't played a 4X game that has the sheer replayability of MOO. MOO was great, but MOO2 was 10x better. So, so many wasted afternoons.
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Sep 28, 2018 01:43
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Phenotype posted:Okay come on, no one's favorite game, in the year 2018, is Dungeons of Daggorath. I just checked out a quick Let's Play and holy poo poo, that's not even a timeless classic like Tetris or something, it's a standard first-person dungeon-crawler RPG from a time before graphics or sound were invented. I'm sure your nostalgia is kicking really hard when you look at it, but be real. It's like saying your favorite car is the Model T, like they haven't improved literally every single aspect of it in the last 35 years. Nethack is still playable in 2018. (I agree about Dungeons of Daggorath, though. It was marginally playable back then, now it's poop.)
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Sep 28, 2018 01:52
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Colonel Cool posted:Anyone who isn't reading Oglaf is messing up. Oglaf started out awesome, now maybe one in ten strips is funny.
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Sep 28, 2018 20:58
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fool_of_sound posted:Lol, yeah I love Ultima 4 and 5, both release several years before my birth. It's a bit surreal sometimes. Dear Lord, Ultima V. A huge game world, with hundreds of NPCs you could have full conversations with, who had their own daily schedules, and some of them worked for the Big Baddies so you had to be careful who to trust, a complex magic system, 3D dungeons, an underworld as big as the main world... and it came out in '88 and ran on 64K of RAM. It's really depressing how far down the toilet Lord British has slid since then.
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Sep 29, 2018 05:08
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Okay, so The Dark One rose to godhood during this world, therefore he did not exist prior to this world's creation. And, he's never had a sit-down with any of the preexisting gods. Therefore, what knowledge he has of the Snarl comes strictly from this world; from Serini's party's research. He does not know of the countless previous worlds or of the four colors. He plans to use the threat of moving the rifts to blackmail the other gods, but doesn't know of the possibility of permanently containing it.
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Sep 29, 2018 19:53
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CAD was a one trick pony; "Wow that Ethan guy sure is insane!" was the only joke. It was moderately funny the first year, then not. Also I've heard that Buckley is a doosh in person.
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Oct 6, 2018 05:47
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Miko is the perfect example of "Lawful rear end in a top hat". I'm right and you're wrong, no questions allowed.
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Oct 8, 2018 03:46
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Raenir Salazar posted:Does Xykon have True Sight or magic detection or divination percepting items? If so, then cold calling recloak is basically like that scene in early Archer with him calling all the spies in various governments outing them. When fighting V, he used hearing to find her when s/he was invisible, so probably no.
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Oct 9, 2018 06:55
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Colonel Cool posted:A lot of people have it stuck in their heads that D&D is a generic system that can handle any sort of game you can possibly imagine. I die a little inside every time someone tells me about their combat light D&D courtly intrigue game. I think the rationale behind this is that everyone knows how to play D&D... everyone. Ergo, if you have a group of people over, and some are grognards but some are not, D&D is the one game that lets everyone start playing right away without reading through 4829 manuals and splatbooks.
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Oct 13, 2018 05:11
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reignonyourparade posted:Literally how gygax ran things I still remember picking up Tomb of Horrors at age 13 or 14 or so and thinking "So... players are *supposed* to die eight times per session?"
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Oct 13, 2018 05:12
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Take the most generic sword 'n' sorcery MMORPG you can imagine, then make a pen and paper version of that, then subject that to months of review by a committee of stuffy suits whose goal is to extract any possibility of fun. That's 4E.
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Oct 14, 2018 00:31
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Bongo Bill posted:Most generic MMORPGs have better game design than D&D 3.5. 3.5 had some rules holes like bag o' rats, and some overpowered splatbooks like, um, that psionics one, but overall it was awesome.
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Oct 14, 2018 00:52
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Dr Pepper posted:Name one mechanic from 4e that comes from mmorpgs rather than mmorpgs cribbing D&D Cooldowns on everything. A dude posted:A monthly subscription to use the character builder. Or that.
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Oct 14, 2018 05:55
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PMush Perfect posted:I don't think Xykon is gonna get suckered out of this any time soon, there needs to be SOME kind of major payoff, considering the both of them pretty much had a whole prequel book to themselves. There's no way that the final conflict between them isn't a YuGiOh episode of "I knew you had a plan and I knew you knew I had a plan so I planned for your plan that you made to beat my plan." That's actually what I had envisioned between Xykon and Redcloak, kind of a Thirty Xanatos Pileup. Redcloak reveals he switched the phylacteries, and Xykon reveals that he knew all along and made a backup, and Redcloak (or TDO) reveals he had anticipated that and destroyed the backup, and Xykon announces he anticipated that they had anticipated that and made a backup backup, then Redcloak reveals that...
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Oct 16, 2018 03:30
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Post poste posted:The floppy means that the snarl is actually making it's own universe and worlds with the places it's eating, and is busy forming a higher level god, so killing it now would be hella bad. My Prediction: The Snarl in fact has created it's own world, with people, within its pocket universe. However, the Snarl is composed of pure malevolence and hatred, and so torments the inhabitants constantly. Pulling the plug on the Snarl will destroy that world; our heroes debate whether that would be a good or bad thing.
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Oct 30, 2018 03:26
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ikanreed posted:Mechanical speculation is boring. I want to know how they're gonna convince her to rez durkon, and whether it will work. Pretty sure Thor can rez Durkon with a snap of his fingers.
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Nov 3, 2018 00:30
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TheAceOfLungs posted:When I first read that phrase, I thought you were saying there was some kind of (overtly) Christian TTRPG, like a "Bibles & Beatitudes" or "Saints & Sacraments" kind of thing. And now it occurs to me that there possibly is. Back in the 80's, during the "D&D = Satan!!!" bullshit, a few people came out with Christian RPGs, which from what I remember were sad flops. The titles escape me at the moment.
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Nov 5, 2018 02:42
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So I guess that the bit about the Outsiders means that, when the gods wipe and remake "the world", they're actually talking about just the Prime Material Plane, not the multiverse?
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Nov 27, 2018 01:37
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Raenir Salazar posted:That probably doesn't work though, because eventually said minion's soul will be absorbed into whatever afterlife they got sent to. And there's no guarantee if they have their items on the otherside that some demon won't steal them. Also, Resurrection requires the consent of the soul. A lot of these evil minions only serve their master out of fear.
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Jan 1, 2019 22:38
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fool_of_sound posted:A few sci-fis have explored this but I can't think of any fantasy The old MMORPG Anarchy Online had an in-world explanation for players getting rezzed when they die. They went briefly into the effects this had on society as a whole. (basically people took a *bit* more risks, that's about it).
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Jan 5, 2019 04:00
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Silver2195 posted:it's interesting to see some of the heteronormative background assumptions (Elan and Nale at different points feel the need to adamantly deny any attraction to other males, Haley's bisexuality is one of her many deep dark secrets, Roy and Belkar seem to regard seeing Elan naked as basically the most disgusting thing ever). But on the flip side, we have Belkar macking on Roy wearing the Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity ever when he knew it was Roy. Belkar was confident enough in his own sexuality to not care.
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Jan 10, 2019 03:08
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PMush Perfect posted:I haven't gotten into a 4X since GalCiv2 (which I still crack open now and then) and GalCiv3 was a loving trash fire. What was so bad about 3? As background, I loved 1 and played a trillion games of it, and got 2 but couldn't get into it much.
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Mar 19, 2019 20:27
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FMguru posted:The only good alignment system is from Freebase, the LARP rules included with the Hol RPG. Holy poopfarts, I picked up HoL 20 years ago and thought it was just a cute one-shot parody of RPGs. The fact that it's out there being played blows my mind.
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Apr 5, 2019 02:26
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Who What Now posted:It is also known as "autistic screeching", so yes. My subscription to Bigoted rear end in a top hat Quarterly expired last year, but yeah I'm pretty drat sure that REEEEEEEE is an insult to autistic people however used.
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Apr 5, 2019 02:28
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No way is that a coincidence: that's EXACTLY the 80's D&D cartoon. And they arrive in the modern world at the end?? Super awesome.
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Jun 13, 2019 18:35
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Alchenar posted:At a bare minimum, the problem with that segment is that the whole joke is that Roy is embarrassed to be a woman. My take was that Rich was making fun of the Girdle itself. In 1e and 3e AD&D, the player's gender has no effect on anything, so there's no real reason for the Girdle of Femininity/Masculinity to exist, except maybe to troll players who are themselves insecure.
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Jun 30, 2019 22:26
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Heh, scones.
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Aug 1, 2019 19:54
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ConfusedUs posted:Redcloak is far, far more dangerous in the long term than Xykon. He's cold, calculating, ruthless, smart, cunning, and, above all, patient. He utterly lacks Xykon's arrogance and anger and pride. He's gladly taken on the role of underling to ensure his plan comes to fruition. He gave up an eye for it. Not to mention he's almost unkillable; kinda like Dread Pirate Roberts, "Redcloak" is whoever is wearing the Crimson Mantle. Which probably is artifact/relic level indestructible.
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Aug 13, 2019 03:59
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Mikl posted:- When he got the phylatchery back he didn't bother to check if it was the real one; That always stuck in my mind. I mean, the phylactery contains Xykon's soul. Doesn't it seem a bit odd that's he can't somehow sense that his soul isn't in there?
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Aug 13, 2019 23:26
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Capfalcon posted:I don't see anything saying he didn't have worship or dedication. Instead, a significant number of people Believed him into being a fool and a simpleton, but he's now getting Belief of Odin as the wise leader of the gods. It'll sort itself out soon enough. It's hard to imagine him getting worship or dedication without belief. (Then again, that same panel says Hel is getting too much devotion and no worship, so i dunno.)
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Aug 20, 2019 21:16
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SlothfulCobra posted:I was just wondering if Hel built up a big enough following of vampire dwarves, could that chill her the gently caress out? Or do undead dwarves' worship not count? I checked; in D&D a cleric who becomes a vampire can still be a cleric if his alignment and deity don't change. Since worship is the defining trait of a cleric, I'm guessing that worship from a vampire is real.
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Aug 21, 2019 03:52
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Roland Jones posted:Yeah, the revelation that Hel is actually dying from this, not "just" malnutritioned, to use Thor's metaphor, but outright in danger of disappearing, recontextualizes a lot of her behavior. Yeah seriously. Let's look at it... many hundreds if not thousands of years ago (but during this world, not a previous one) Hel made an agreement to trade her regular source of souls for the souls of not-honorable dwarves. But then, Thor told the dwarves about the arrangement, thus changing dwarven culture to a super-honorable one, so Hel gets nothing. If gods actually need souls to survive, then Thor's plan will kill her, and Hel's machinations with the vampires are a desperate play to stay alive. Still, it may not be quite that desperate. We know that if the Snarl eats a world, all the souls are forever lost. Since this has happened before, that means the gods are capable of skipping a meal or two.
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Aug 21, 2019 04:23
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Ponsonby Britt posted:I think Odin must be working some longer con here. For some reason, he had to deliberately give up power and/or get stupid in the last world, in order to set something up in this world. Did he know the purple quiddity would arise, or did he somehow cause it? Or maybe it's connected to the world inside the Snarl, which he seems to know about. Whatever it is, it's a nice parallel to his small-scale manipulation of getting Durkon exiled in order to get him into the afterlife to talk with Thor. This is possible, but I think that if Odin is going to be a major plot point he would have been given more screen time.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Link? I'm too
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