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NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Bobulus posted:

So does the imposter goblin have a shaved head because polymorph doesn't know what kind of hair to give a hairless creature, or do you think having hair just weirds him out, and he shaves it?
Neither, I think it's just a random hairstyle: if it were either of your ideas he'd have been bald instead of having a buzzcut.

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NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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wdarkk posted:

As badass as it was, I'm with whoever it was a while back wondering what the point of this part is. Given the pace of updates has been historically slow, and the resistance/elves seem to have accomplished absolutely jack poo poo.
I'd be highly surprised if next strip everyone got killed / run out and Redcloak reacquired the amulet without further consequences.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I liked the 8-Bit Theater fan movies :(

Though yeah, that wacky delivery style wouldn't have worked anywhere as well for the later 8BT comics, and much less for OotS past the first 50 strips.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

He used a spell silently two strips ago. He knew he would probably have to do this.
:eng101: Actually, he used his evil cleric's ability to Rebuke/Command Undead (in this case Command since his level was sufficiently high), which is the counterpart to a good cleric's Turn/Destroy Undead and is inherently silent (although no self-respecting good cleric would pass up a chance to shout "Begone, foul monster!" in an appropriately booming voice).

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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terminal mehmet posted:

What if the undead minions don't know in which order they were created?!
Worse, imagine if they start quarrelling about whether Redcloak meant first-to-last or last-to-first.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Huh. So there's no way at all for a lich to recognise its own philactery from a copy when the only difference is the lack of the soul? Seems a little odd to me, but I'm not a D&D guru.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I can't see a halfway decent ending in time for #1000. There's 169 strips left, and about 169 strips ago was Roy's resurrection - i.e. in that period we've had the adventures in the Empire of Blood and little else.

Finishing the showdown at Girard's Gate, and maybe a few sidetracks (adventures of O-Chul and Sea Paladin, if I can hope!) seems like a more realistic target for the turn of the 'millennium'. How long will be left afterwards depends entirely on how many plot points get resolved there.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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MikeJF posted:

I doubt there was any damage, with the number of protective spells on the amulet. The scratches were probably from before the amulet was made into a phylactery.

Besides, it's not like Xykon got a good look at it after the Explosive Runes had a go at it.


Seems to me these two panels can be read just as easily as "I was so upset I can barely remember those instants" or "I was so upset, those instants are burned in my mind". So I think Rich is in the enviable position where the result will make sense regardless of whether he has Xykon notice the chain or not.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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terminal mehmet posted:

Chaotic good people can murder every now and then.
Has there been either evidence or Word of God that Haley is CG? I always thought she was CN, though leaning good (giving a double meaning to her "I'm not good enough" hand-wringing when she was pining over Elan).

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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So, to recap, what does $10 currently buy you?

  • The Roy fridge magnet
  • O'Chul story
  • Julio Scoundrél story
  • Dim Sun
  • 3x short stories about characters chosen by three large donors
  • Mystery prize #3

Did I get everything?

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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As I write this there's exactly one SS&DT left at $35 (probably someone backed out), go get it!

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Or for a halfway approach, a full-length Order of the Scribble prequel story. Viability of the idea depends on how much of it will be revealed during the events of regular OotS.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Has Rich ever said if he knows V's sex? That is, whether he has decided on the answer and just won't say it, or hasn't actually decided yet?

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Huh. Well, if the idea wasn't already there from the start, that takes away a hell of a lot of the uncertainty I had on the matter.

(Apologies if I'm getting too close to reopening the debate. I haven't really discussed OotS in forums before, but I imagine the öld guard" must be sick and tired of talking about that.)

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I feel your pain, Ashenai, but I never had one of these, can I go just a few posts? Please? Pretty please with sugar on top? :ohdear:

(And hey, still better than playing apologetic vs. those guys from the webcomics thread!)

Affi posted:

I'm pretty sure V's supposed to have been female from the start:
See; http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0123.html
I don't think that counts, because that comic is after V's gender had been established as a joke.

All right - my money, for what it's worth, is on him having been originally intended as male, for two reasons:

(1) You don't need to be a classical scholar to associate the -us name ending with males.

(2) In #9, Roy calls Vaarsuvius "V-man". That strip was almost certainly written before Rich got the idea of making V's sex a running gag, since (a) there isn't the smallest joke about V and a Girdle of F/M; (b) as soon as the gag started, Roy will be established as not knowing and not holding any definite opinion regarding V's sex (including in the in-universe timeline, via Origin of PCs); (c) it's strip number fuckin' nine.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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On the one side, yay Redcloak! On the other side, 20th-level Order of the Stick taking on their final dungeon in the Astral Plane would have been a cool endgame.

e: I guess that just because the phylactery isn't actually there doesn't mean the OotS isn't going to attack it. So there's hope!

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I just learnt that Garth Ennis, the author of that gigantic and at times embarrassing love-letter to America, Preacher, is Northern Irish. What the :psyduck:

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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MikeJF posted:

I assumed they were referring to the print-only books.
Also, the book-bound versions of the regular strip have several little bonuses. Some don't really add much (footnotes for Haley's easily-decyphered speech), but IIRC there's also some neat stuff like the recovery of Roy's flesh golem. Would be nice to have them in digital.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Belkar will want to kill him for shooting Mr. Scruffy (he will either recognise the crossbow bolts, or Mr. Scruffy will just 'rat' him out), Durkon will oppose killing him in cold blood while he's no real threat, and Vaarsuvius will be faced with a moral choice without his familiar to provide counsel.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Snarl death would wipe out both body and soul, so he wouldn't return home either to Dwarven burial grounds or to Dwarven heaven.

There's also the whole thing with the gates apparently containing a planet instead of a horrible monster, which might mean Snarl deaths aren't actually possible anymore. (Being thrown through a gate should still be lethal, but as Xykon's resurrection showed it doesn't eat your soul or anything, so Belkar/Durkon could still be raised.)

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I had forgotten about both of those. Good memory.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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If anyone is thinking of doing that, spare Rich's servers the stress and let me know - I already have all the comics saved on my hard drive, so I can just pack them in a .cbr and upload them for you instead.

Also, Rich scrambles the file names to make life slightly more difficult for web crawlers, so while working around that wouldn't be a big challenge by any means it could still easily be annoying.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Well, what I actually did was c/p the archives page list into a .csv and then tell a bulk renamer to reference that to rename all files in the folder, sorted by creation date.

Still, as I said, I'll just upload a .cbr if someone here wants to read OotS on the crapper. No need to go crawl the same site more than once.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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There you go, titles and all: http://www.mediafire.com/?2l9k9ihb9irlypd

(I'm pretty drat sure this is perfectly legal, given that it's nothing but right-click-save from the free website which doesn't even use ads, but on the off-chance I'm mistaken let me know and I'll take it down as soon as I wake up tomorrow.)

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Feb 14, 2012

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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MildShow posted:

I don't know. That would require about $230,000 in just five days, and with no new pledge reward options on the horizon, I just can't see that much money coming in. Honestly, I think we'll be lucky if we can get to the patch before all is said and done.
I think there might be quite a few people like me, who are waiting until the last day or two to throw in their money because they're not sure which option to pick and/or they have an irrational aversion towards spending money when they don't know exactly what they're getting (even though the goodies can only increase).

Also, uh, shouldn't there have been another comic today? In what time-zone is Rich?

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Could a Scotsman check if in their accent "weendy" and "whindy" sound anywhere close? :v:

Also, to riff on the strip title, has anyone here read The Name of the Wind? I've heard good things about it, though I can't remember where.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Silly rules question: who received the XP for defeating Zz'dtri? Yuk-yuk, V, both, fifty-fifty, neither?

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Theler posted:

It's possible, but it is a lot of effort to go through for someone you know nothing about. Another minor issue with at least the lich process is that according to SOD it takes 4 months. I am not sure if there is a way around that or a different type of non breathing creature Belkar could be made into.
Only spellcasters can become lich. Within core 3.5 rules, high-level warriors's best option for undead immortality is usually as vampires.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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"Each lich must make its own phylactery, which requires the Craft Wondrous Item feat. The character must be able to cast spells and have a caster level of 11th or higher. The phylactery costs 120,000 gp and 4,800 XP to create and has a caster level equal to that of its creator at the time of creation. "
- d20SRD.org

Since a ranger's caster level is half his level, Belkar is out of luck, even if he had the chance to pick up the CWI feat before his demise.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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New comic :toot:

Seems V is quite the dick (and Haley, too), I could see no reason not to let him at least give it a genuine try, even though there was probably a ridiculously high DC so the result would have been the same.

e: or maybe V just told him "do your best", but it turned out he didn't actually have any relevant skill ranks (a la Belkar and tracking), so he had to try the next best thing.

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Feb 21, 2012

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Oh hey, I'm not sure if anyone missed this interview with Rich, but I did, and there's a line that made me feel a bit of relief:

quote:

For The Order of the Stick, I've got at least three or four years left of regular installments to the main story that's available on my website, GiantITP.com, before it really comes to a conclusion. So there's plenty of time left for it as a webcomic, not even counting the strong probability that there will be more exclusive-to-print books before then as well.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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4th-6th. Roy uses Weapon Specialisation against Thog, and in V's duel with Zz'dtri they talk about their 3rd level spells as their best.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Meh. In 3E, gaining lots of levels only helps spellcasters, really. Fighters and rogues mostly just get to hit a little harder and faster; they care about their level primarily because it determines what loot they find. A 20th-level fighter without a dragonhoard's worth of boosting jewelry is remarkably useless; vice-versa, give an overpowered anime sword to a 13th-level one and he'll do a decent impression of an epic-level counterpart.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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^^^^ Have you read SoD?

The Cliffport Cops jokes were some of my favourite in the whole comic, so I'm not unhappy; on the other side, I couldn't care less about some comic relief characters' backstory, so the question is whether Rich can write more jokes that are just as funny. We'll see.

Therkla is the one that interests me the least based on what I've read of her, but on the other side, I think there's definitely the potential for a really great story in how a half-orc ended up as Kubota's personal ninja. Problem is, I can't see that beind handled properly in 8-12 pages. So I'm bracing for disappointment there.

Belkar... well, it's going to hinge on whether we get some actual background i.e. his days with the halfling community, or whether Rich goes for another cop-out (after the one in OtOoPCs) and starts with Belkar already being the same murderous criminal as always.

NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Feb 22, 2012

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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SoD spoiler: Xykon was always evil, too, but his origin story was still interesting.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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If those were regular corpses, and had been dead long enough to have carrion beetles all over them, every OotS member would have been overwhelmed by the smell at least once they hit the same floor, instead of just Durkon and Belkar.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I had always assumed (mostly because of the end of #667) that the party would find out once the fiends showed up to take their end of the bargain. They never said they would wait for V's death to take control of his soul, after all...

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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ImpAtom posted:

I find the Familicide thing unlikely because I really doubt that we're not going to get a reveal of Haley/her dad being related to Draketooth in some fashion and she's pretty noticeably not dead.
I think the Western Continent plot arc has had enough unexpected family reunions as it is :sax:

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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Not that it's conclusive evidence or anything, but in the Familicide panels every single victim is shown to be a dragon or half-dragon, there isn't a single non-dragon in there.

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NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

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I only now noticed that the style of runes the Draketooth have on their faces is also faintly engraved both on the inside and the outside of the pyramid. :downs:

My first thought was that they were some kind of anti-divination protection, but if that were the case I doubt ZZ'dtri would have been able to get past them, even with a mother-child connection to help.

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