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First thread: here (archives required) Second thread: here Third thread: here Fourth thread: here Fifth thread: here Monoprice.com has cheap cables! Table of Contents: 1. An intro to HDTV 2. Useful terms 3. HDTV technology 4. Purchasing an HDTV 5. Input, Cables, and Calibration 6. Warranties 7. Setup 1. An intro to HDTV - 720p, 1080i, and other basics Utnayan posted:Traditionally, TV has been broadcast at 480i (Called SDTV - Chemmy). This means 480 interlaced. The frame of the picture is scanned every other line down, and then once again every other line up, which then creates the frame for that specific sequence. There is also EDTV. Which stands for enhanced definition television. More or less this is 480p, or 480 progressive, which means the entire frame for that particular shot is scanned in one pass, which creates a clearer picture with virtually no flicker. More or less if you see a set advertised as an EDTV, about the most performance you will get out of it is a set that will be able to support an incoming signal from a progressive scan DVD player, or a game console which is able to send a 480p signal. Enter HDTV, which has a couple different formats. 720p, and 1080i respectively. Right now these are the two formats battling for supremacy in HDTV land. 1080i is the standard used for most stations now, with ABC and ESPN (possibly a couple others) still hanging on to 720p. HDTV resolutions: code:
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1080i and 720p display roughly the same amount of video information in the same time frame. 2. Useful terms Utnayan posted:Burn in: Static images that if left on over time, will leave a permanent fixed image on your screen. 3. HDTV Technology: Utnayan posted:CRT - Traditional tube based TV sets: Utnayan posted:LCD TV's: Utnayan posted:CRT RPTV's Flashdance posted:LCD RPTVs: Utnayan posted:DLP: Utnayan posted:Plasma: Chemmy posted:LCoS: 5. Purchasing an HDTV Utnayan posted:watch out for sales tricks. When you go into a best buy or circuit city, you'll know more about these sets then they could ever hope to know. Things to look out for: Input, Cables, and Calibration Utnayan posted:1> Composite/RCA: This is the worst possible connection you can use. If your set supports S-video, please use it. Composite basically ties every signal into one cable and throws it at the set. 6. Warranties Utnayan posted:This is kind of a tough one. 7% of people who purchase a warranty actually use them. One time though it saved my rear end on a 51" Sony RPTV that shipped with a defective engineering flaw and I ended up getting a brand new set/new model. I purchased one with my 34" HDTV Sony. It was $199.99 and gives me peace of mind for a $1500 purchase. With that said if you can call the manufacturer to do warranty service, do it. Not a knock on technicians from super stores, but technicians from the mom and pop stores that are authorized by the manufacturer have better service, follow through, and want to see you happy. On a side note, if you can purchase a set from one of these smaller stores, you may pay an additional $100-200 more, but the service you receive for the life of your product will pay for it in the long run. 7. Setup qirex posted:Viewing distance calculator:
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1080p vs. 720pHDGuru.com posted:http://hdguru.com/?p=34 Video game info! Xbox 360 The Xbox 360 supports HDTV gaming using the component cables included with the Xbox 360 Premium. The Xbox 360 can also output HD signals to computer monitors using the available VGA cable. Supported resolutions: SDTV, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p lots of weird computer resolutions. Playstation 3 The PS3 will support HDTV gaming using component cables, or HDMI. Supported resolutions: SDTV, 480p, 720p, Wii The Wii will support 16:9 480p widescreen. Chemmy fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 22, 2007 |
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I'm considering purchasing a large (50") 1080p set, mostly to "future proof" myself. I'm looking at flat panels. Now, right now there don't seem to be many large sets that have a native resolution of 1080p, and the ones out there are way too expensive. Do you guys think that say, in a year from now, 1080p will be priced more reasonably, and the selection will be much greater? I'd like a new tv now, but if waiting a year means a better price on a TV that will give me some peace of mind, I'll wait. Or should I ditch the whole future proofing notion and just get a 720p set?
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There will always be something better on the horizon. Welcome to Buyers Remorse land. Seriously, if you have the funds to do it now, why not enjoy 1080p today rather than tomorrow? However before you answer that question, let me ask you another-- what 1080p sources do you have now and what 1080p sources will you buy before next year?
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pastis posted:There will always be something better on the horizon. Welcome to Buyers Remorse land. Seriously, if you have the funds to do it now, why not enjoy 1080p today rather than tomorrow? However before you answer that question, let me ask you another-- what 1080p sources do you have now and what 1080p sources will you buy before next year? Right now I have nothing, but as soon as I get the new TV, I will be getting an upconverting/region free player ( probably this one ). And I'll probably get an HD player as well. I'm hoping if I wait a while there might be a decent priced double format player, since I don't want to risk buying a $600 paperweight.
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I'm looking for a high definition TV or monitor I can hook up my DVD player and game systems to, cheap as possible, about 20 inches. I'm not even really that concerned about being able to watch TV on it, although that would be nice, and so far the monitors I've found with component inputs seem to cost the same as comparable sized LCD HDTVs, but maybe I just don't know where to look. The closest thing I've found is some off-brand, Astar, offering a 19 inch widescreen HD LCD TV/Monitor which seems like a real bargain at 200 bucks, but it's got a really bizarre resolution; 1440 x 900. What the gently caress? So, two questions: Is there anywhere I can get a monitor with component inputs but cheap compared to an actual HDTV? Is that 1440 x 900 resolution something I want to avoid like the plague, or is it worth it for the bargain?
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Have you looked at Dell? A lot of people like their monitors with component inputs.
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What kind of wall mount would I need to get for my TV? It's a Samsung 40" LN-S4095D. Ideally I'd like the cheapest one I could get.
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caiman posted:Right now I have nothing, but as soon as I get the new TV, I will be getting an upconverting/region free player ( probably this one ). And I'll probably get an HD player as well. I'm hoping if I wait a while there might be a decent priced double format player, since I don't want to risk buying a $600 paperweight. Ah, I thought I recognized your username. I posted in that thread, too, for what it's worth. Anyway, I think you will probably find a *reasonably* priced universal player in the next 6 months, but don't take that as gospel. I'm just guessing here. What 1080p tv models are you considering?
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pastis posted:What 1080p tv models are you considering? The Pioneer PRO-FHD1 50" plasma is looking real nice. It's just way out of my price range at this point. It needs to drop about 2 grand before I'd be able to consider it. That's why I'm considering waiting it out for about a year. I'm a patient person.
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caiman posted:The Pioneer PRO-FHD1 50" plasma is looking real nice. It's just way out of my price range at this point. It needs to drop about 2 grand before I'd be able to consider it. That's why I'm considering waiting it out for about a year. I'm a patient person. Great TV, however the blacks are really not great - far more LCD-like than what one would expect from a high-end plasma. The good news is that Pioneer has stunning technology coming out with 80% darker blacks and 1080p. These sets should easily come out within the next year, offer better quality than anything out, and be relatively affordable. http://gear.ign.com/articles/753/753836p1.html quote:IGN Gear attended a demonstration of Pioneer's upcoming Plasma displays and walked away as impressed as we get. Pioneer won't provide contrast-ratio figures on its next-gen Plasma technology, citing the figure as un-measurable. We'll assume that means more than 100,000:1, but we'll have to wait for specifics when they are eventually made available by third-party testing. Regardless, we left the Pioneer demonstration just as excited as when we walked out of Toshiba's SED demonstration exactly one year ago. Edit: Panasonic also supposedly has similar technology that they are working on and will hopefully bring to market eventually. Doubtful that it will be within the next year, though. There's a decent thread on AVSF about the Pioneers, but like most AVS threads it is 5% content and 95% stupid faggots arguing. .Nathan. fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Mar 21, 2007 |
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I'm in the market for a bedroom HDTV, nothing huge - probably not more than 37" at the very maximum. From what I read in this thread, 1080p is going to be overkill at the distances I'm viewing at (do they even make 1080p TVs that small?). What I need is a suggestion on a TV that A) has at least one DVI input or multiple HDMI inputs, B) decent sound quality C) and I would prefer native 1080i (is that even possible?). Also, when is the best time of year to buy a new TV? I wouldn't have the money for one until June at the earliest, but would prefer to have a HDTV before August. I guess I would prefer LCD or as light as possible, but weight isn't really a huge issue. Thanks for any help
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Er1c posted:I'm in the market for a bedroom HDTV, nothing huge - probably not more than 37" at the very maximum. From what I read in this thread, 1080p is going to be overkill at the distances I'm viewing at (do they even make 1080p TVs that small?). What I need is a suggestion on a TV that A) has at least one DVI input or multiple HDMI inputs, B) decent sound quality C) and I would prefer native 1080i (is that even possible?). Also, when is the best time of year to buy a new TV? I wouldn't have the money for one until June at the earliest, but would prefer to have a HDTV before August. I guess I would prefer LCD or as light as possible, but weight isn't really a huge issue. Thanks for any help A) I would suggest the Toshiba Regza at that size as it has a range of options. I would also suggest a Samsung LCD. The newer models should have higher contrast ratio and more HDMI ports. Regza 2007: http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-REGZA...74446087&sr=8-1 B) As much as I love my Samsung LN-S LCD, it just doesn't seem to have good sound quality. Sony's are overpriced LCDs, but I thought they were fine. Haven't heard enough from the Regza to say. C) 1080i is an analog source. It's not possible on an LCD.
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So, now that I've got my fabulous 720p Samsung LCD, what's the best way to go about configuring it to get the most out of it? Is there anything I should be doing beyond loving with color levels or whatever? The picture looks amazing as is at the moment, but I want to make it as amazing as possible, obviously.
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Quidnose posted:So, now that I've got my fabulous 720p Samsung LCD, what's the best way to go about configuring it to get the most out of it? Is there anything I should be doing beyond loving with color levels or whatever? The picture looks amazing as is at the moment, but I want to make it as amazing as possible, obviously. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=706278&highlight=LNS I don't know what size you have, but they're all basically the same thing if you have the LNS. I guess through there and find the latest and greatest agreed on picture settings.
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I asked this right at the end of the last thread. I just bought a Samsung DLP projection TV, and I think I have the video game lag issue. Does anyone have any links with info or discussion on this so I can get a grip on whats going on with it?
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Phat_Albert posted:I asked this right at the end of the last thread. I just bought a Samsung DLP projection TV, and I think I have the video game lag issue. What system are you playing and can you link to the exact DLP you have?
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Moo Moo Bells posted:http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=706278&highlight=LNS Thanks for this, I found the LNS4051D thread, which unfortunately isn't as well laid out as that particular one you linked. Guess I get to slog through this weekend. Loving the TV, though. HD-DVD, Xbox 360. Even SDVDs! All of it looks wonderful
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I was able to snag a 32" Widescreen Samsung HD with 1080i support for $250. Anyway, I just picked up some component cables for my Wii, but the TV's cutting off about an inch or so from each side of the TV. Panorama picture size would fix the problem, but I'm getting a "Not Available" message when I try to choose it in the menu. It doesn't let me select the option while the Wii is in 480p mode, only 480i, which is really annoying. The picture fits perfectly when in 480i Widescreen, but, y'know, it's cut off in 480p. I have the components hooked into the second input if that makes any difference. It's really annoying because Wii Sports looks like "Vii Sports" when it's on the title menu. <> Any suggestions?
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A continuation from my last post on the old megathread in games [thanks for the A/V forum]. I got my cables from monoprice.com, and while I can only get 720p from the vga port using my powerbook on my Sony SXRD KDS60A2000, I can get full 1920x1080 on an HDMI slot. I got the DVI-D -> HDMI cable and used the DVI-D [digital not analog] out from my powerbook, and it auto synced to 1920x1080 . Awesome. Can't wait to move into my new apartment so I can wire up everything correctly.
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caiman posted:The Pioneer PRO-FHD1 50" plasma is looking real nice. It's just way out of my price range at this point. It needs to drop about 2 grand before I'd be able to consider it. That's why I'm considering waiting it out for about a year. I'm a patient person. FYI Pioneer has a deal running now that if you buy that one you get a free 50 inch 720p Pioneer plasma.
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Zero Jesus posted:FYI Pioneer has a deal running now that if you buy that one you get a free 50 inch 720p Pioneer plasma. Um...what? This doesn't make any sense.
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ail posted:Um...what? This doesn't make any sense. Here. quote:Consumer Plasma Panel Promotion
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Zero Jesus posted:FYI Pioneer has a deal running now that if you buy that one you get a free 50 inch 720p Pioneer plasma. Anyone happen to know any stores that are currently honoring this? I might be able to kill two birds with one stone and avoid an SXRD purchase.
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I will be looking into buying a cheaply priced HDTV at the end of the summer. Most likely right now I will be working at Best Buy, so I will have my employee discount, so let's say that I will be spending in the $600-$800 range (realistically that will be more like the $500-$600 after discount). I remember last summer all the guys at my store (I worked at a very competent store, not like the ones you always hear about) raving about the 30" LG Slimfit, especially over the Samsung Slimfit which they said they had the most returns in best buy history. Is the LG Slimfit still the way to go? I figure CRT in that price range is still my best bet, because I'd rather get a better quality CRT than a super cheap LCD. EDIT: I guess I should point out what I actually do with my TV. It's mostly for regular TV show viewing (24, American Idol, and lots of sports), A good amount of DVD viewing, and minor video game playing - and when I do play video games they're sports games through an S-Video connection, so I'm not crazy about the gaming quality. Little Tortilla Boy fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Mar 21, 2007 |
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How come these HDTV megathreads never cover SED TVs? Being a total snob when it comes to this kind of stuff I've stuck w/ CRT and will do so until I can get an SED TV. from wikipedia: "A surface-conduction electron-emitter display (SED) is a flat panel display technology that uses surface conduction electron emitters for every individual display pixel.The surface conduction emitter emits electrons that excite a phosphor coating on the display panel, the same basic concept found in traditional cathode ray tube (CRT) televisions. This means that SEDs use small cathode ray tubes behind every single pixel (instead of one tube for the whole display) and can combine the slim form factor of LCDs and plasma displays with the superior viewing angles, contrast, black levels, color definition and pixel response time of CRTs. Canon also claims that SEDs consume less power than LCD displays."
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FUCT posted:How come these HDTV megathreads never cover SED TVs? Being a total snob when it comes to this kind of stuff I've stuck w/ CRT and will do so until I can get an SED TV. Because they're never going to happen? That's like asking why Automotive Insanity doesn't have information on flying hypersonic space cars. Do some reading on the new Pioneer plasmas coming out. Everyone who has seen both the Pioneers and SEDs in person seems to think the Pioneers are equal. Not to mention they're actually going to be made in mass quantities and not cost as much as a house. Also OLED is coming along nicely and Sony has been showing off some decent-sized prototypes. I think OLED has a better chance than SED because of its large backing and the fact that it's already used in numerous small-scale applications. Shrimpy posted:Anyone happen to know any stores that are currently honoring this? I might be able to kill two birds with one stone and avoid an SXRD purchase. I'm pretty sure i've read the 5016 is a Fry's only model. Not only would you have to find a store with a 5016, but they'd also have to that an FHD1. Not many stores carry either, let alone both.
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Louisgod posted:I was able to snag a 32" Widescreen Samsung HD with 1080i support for $250. Anyway, I just picked up some component cables for my Wii, but the TV's cutting off about an inch or so from each side of the TV. Panorama picture size would fix the problem, but I'm getting a "Not Available" message when I try to choose it in the menu. It doesn't let me select the option while the Wii is in 480p mode, only 480i, which is really annoying. The picture fits perfectly when in 480i Widescreen, but, y'know, it's cut off in 480p. I have the components hooked into the second input if that makes any difference. I'm guessing it's the Slimfit CRT? As you said 1080i, I assume you mean that. Linking to the model would be helpful. However, as was covered in the last thread, those slimfit things are poo poo and have issues like that. Little Tortilla Boy posted:EDIT: I guess I should point out what I actually do with my TV. It's mostly for regular TV show viewing (24, American Idol, and lots of sports), A good amount of DVD viewing, and minor video game playing - and when I do play video games they're sports games through an S-Video connection, so I'm not crazy about the gaming quality. I would really suggest switching over to component when using a CRT. monoprice.com has some cheap components for channel boxes and DVD players, however for the games you'd have to buy them elsewhere. It's not that expensive off of monoprice, so I would suggest you move up with those as well. If you're buying a new HDTV, you might as well have the things that will allow it to work like an HDTV, right? Otherwise you might as well buy a standard definition television as that is all s-video is able to do. .Nathan. posted:Because they're never going to happen? That's like asking why Automotive Insanity doesn't have information on flying hypersonic space cars. Do some reading on the new Pioneer plasmas coming out. Everyone who has seen both the Pioneers and SEDs in person seems to think the Pioneers are equal. Not to mention they're actually going to be made in mass quantities and not cost as much as a house. Also OLED is coming along nicely and Sony has been showing off some decent-sized prototypes. I think OLED has a better chance than SED because of its large backing and the fact that it's already used in numerous small-scale applications. What do you consider as decent size prototypes? How small/large are they supposed to be?
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Moo Moo Bells posted:What do you consider as decent size prototypes? How small/large are they supposed to be? Sony just showed off a 27-inch panel at CES. Not terribly big, but look at how fast LCDs jumped up in size. I remember just a year or two ago, it was hard to find one bigger than 37 inches. Here are a couple of pictures of those OLEDs. Hot drat those things are thin Louisgod posted:It's really annoying because Wii Sports looks like "Vii Sports" when it's on the title menu. <> Any suggestions? Is it a slimfit CRT? You could try adjusting the overscan settings, if you're up for messing around in the service menu. CORN NOG fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Mar 21, 2007 |
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The guy I'm living with starting this summer is planning to buy a Sony 46" LCD HDTV that does 720p. A few questions that I didn't see mentioned much in the sweet FAQ... 1) How extensive are HD channel offerings right now? I know the number of channels changes with different providers and so on, but I regularly watch a wide gamut of channels including the "basics" (NBC, ABC, FOX, CBS) as well as others like ESPN, Sci-Fi, Discovery. Are these networks migrating to offer HD in the future? I guess I don't want to pay up just to get 3 channels. 2) With the TV, is there extensive risk of lag with the Wii (or PS2, Gamecube) that he should consider a different TV? 3) Due to the large number of components we'll be hooking up, is there a specific switch that you would recommend? I've read in some places that sometimes these switches degrade image quality, but is this actually the case, or is this coming from pixel peepers? Obviously, I'd like to not ruin the inputs on the TV from plugging/unplugging everything, but I can't seem to find any switches that seem to fit the bill, so any suggestions would be awesome. 4) We're not going HD-DVD/Blu-Ray right now, but I'm somewhat intimidated by the selection of DVD players. Would something like this Samsung DVD-HD755 fit the bill since it has the HDMI output and upconvert to 720p?
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Modulus posted:A few questions that I didn't see mentioned much in the sweet FAQ... 1) All of those except for Scifi are in HD right now (and Discovery HD is hands down my favorite HD channel), and I believe Scifi HD is coming next year. Depending on your provider, you can usually expect around 10-15 channels. 2) You'll get some lag on just about any HD set with any 480i/p games. That said, in my experience Sony's TVs usually aren't too bad about it, and it'll be barely noticable on anything other than rhythm/music or fighting games, and even then it won't be unplayable. 3) The Impact Acoustics 3-play is a good quality component/optical/rca remote controlled switcher and is only fifty bucks. 4) I can't speak for that particular model, but I've had good experiences with Samsung DVD players in the past. Personally, I'm using a modded Xbox in my basement, and a Philips DVP5960 in my living room. The Xbox is great for its versatility (XBMC is a godsend), and while the remote control and interface on the Philips leave a little (okay, a lot) to be desired, DIVX support is great and the picture quality is excellent over HDMI (granted, that is on a 32-inch HD CRT, I haven't tried it out on the larger TV yet)
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Moo Moo Bells posted:What system are you playing and can you link to the exact DLP you have? I have noticed it on my XBOX, it is on a Samsung HL-S5086W 50" DLP HDTV Playing is laggy, not so much that you could easily measure the lag, but enough that you notice it and it fucks you up while playing.
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I read in the OP that 1080p is considered overkill for a 37" screen, but I am curious what the consensus is on this 37" Aquos. For $1300 it seems like a great deal, even if 1080p is unnecessary on a screen of that size. I will want to play video games on this, anyone know if the Aquos line has any known issues with lag?
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ilikegrapejuice posted:Is it a slimfit CRT? You could try adjusting the overscan settings, if you're up for messing around in the service menu. Yep, this is exactly what I must do. Fellow goon stoko went with me to pick the TV up (he has the same TV but in 30") and, apparently, had the same exact issue with his Wii when he hooked up his component cables and had to gently caress around in the service menu to get it to fit. The model number is TXM3096XHE and type number HR32M9 (32" Samsung Widescreen 1080i). I'm posting them so I can easily come back to them here. Thanks for the help guys.
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Phat_Albert posted:I have noticed it on my XBOX, it is on a Samsung HL-S5086W 50" DLP HDTV I should have also asked you what cables you are using. Are you using component cables to get 480p (the red, green, blue cables)? Or are you using the composite cable (yellow cable)? The yellow cable is only able to do 480i, a standard definition picture. The television has to do a lot of processing to deinterlace the image and then bringing it up to its native 720p. Though I have never used anything on it that was standard definition, I have heard it does have issues upscaling the image to 720p. If you get component cables for the XBox, it should display the image into 480p (a progressive image). It should be easier for the television to just scale the image to 720p. Madcatz component: http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=801798 That should hopefully fix the issue. I have never used that television for anything at standard definition, so I can't say for sure. If you need the optical audio output, you'll need to buy the official component switch from Microsoft. Final note: If you do have component all set up, make sure you have the video settings in the menu at 720p and widescreen. Edit: Reading that Amazon list, it says it is an "Aspect Ratio: 4:3". Is your TV widescreen? Otherwise, I haven't used that TV at all. If it's an HD television and not widescreen, it's probably a cheapo economy line of television where parts such as processing is m'eh at best. If it is 16:9 widescreen, Amazon becomes stupid for their listing. Donkey Kunt fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Mar 21, 2007 |
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ilikegrapejuice posted:1) All of those except for Scifi are in HD right now (and Discovery HD is hands down my favorite HD channel), and I believe Scifi HD is coming next year. Depending on your provider, you can usually expect around 10-15 channels. Anyway, if you visit AVSForum, they have subforums for local providers and you can get an idea as to what is offered in your area and by whom.
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Phat_Albert posted:I have noticed it on my XBOX, it is on a Samsung HL-S5086W 50" DLP HDTV Samsung's DLPs are pretty notorious about upscale lag. There is a Game Mode that should reduce the effects (I believe it's under the "Setup" option in the menu, rather than the usual video settings) LordOfThePants posted:Isn't Discovery HD different than the Discovery Channel? I thought Discovery HD showed things like "Sunrise Earth" and other nature programming, shows like Mythbusters, Dirty Jobs, etc don't air on Disocvery HD? Yeah, you're right. It's not just an HD version of the regular Discovery Channel, but I definitely prefer that to how National Geographic HD does things. I like how Discovery HD plays HD content some 99% of the time, whereas NGHD seems to just be the regular NG station but with a couple of shows a day in HD. Besides, I'm sure Mythbusters, Dirty Jobs, and all the other good Discovery shows will make their way to the HD station eventually. Until then, I'll be perfectly fine with watching sharks and lions tearing other animals to pieces
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Moo Moo Bells posted:I should have also asked you what cables you are using. Are you using component cables to get 480p (the red, green, blue cables)? Or are you using the composite cable (yellow cable)? The yellow cable is only able to do 480i, a standard definition picture. The television has to do a lot of processing to deinterlace the image and then bringing it up to its native 720p. To build on upon this there are really 2 options available, and they are not mutually exclusive (IE you can do them both if you want) 1) Most new TV's have a "Game" AV mode which speeds up the internal de-interlacing (the culprit for the lag) at a slight cost in visual quality. I'm not sure if the HL-S models have them, but I'm pretty sure the HL-R models did so I can't imagine why they wouldn't. In any case, if you've got it turn it on and give it a shot. Its the cheapest option. 2) As Moo Moo Bells mentioned, switch to Component cables. Since all XB games at least support progressive scan (something that isn't true with the PS2) that should eliminate the need to de-interlace and thus your problem. My old HL-P had TERRIBLE input lag (and no game mode) and this fixed the issue. Most PS2 games were still unplayable. There is a third comedy option that involves you buying an external scaler or receiver and running the XB through that, but its money you don't need to spend because your problem will be most likely solved by one of the two above options.
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