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In terms of HD programming, assuming I have an HDTV and basic cable, is there any way to get HD content without having to buy a box and pay for a HD subscription, when all I want are just the channels I watch already in HD? Alternately, can I just buy a HD settop box and get HD content through my existing coax? I really want to see this Sony Grand Wega in action.
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Mar 21, 2007 22:22
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Has anybody heard anything new about laser? I remember hearing last year about laser TVs coming out sometime this year and they sounded promising. Apparently, it's a flat-panel unit with CRT picture quality that's 30% less expensive to produce than an LCD.
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Mar 21, 2007 22:23
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Is there any reason why I should not get the HANNspree Xv 37" LCD? http://www.buy.com/retail/Product.asp?sku=204042781&adid=17662 I am not looking for super amazing black levels or really super amazing anything else, I just want something that can work for games and movies and won't have distracting annoying things like a lot of ghosting. This company makes LCD monitors as well (under the name HANNS.G), ALL of which are raved about on newegg, so at least they have a little cred. Thoughts?
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Mar 21, 2007 23:02
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ScootsMagoo posted:Has anybody heard anything new about laser? I remember hearing last year about laser TVs coming out sometime this year and they sounded promising. Apparently, it's a flat-panel unit with CRT picture quality that's 30% less expensive to produce than an LCD. Sounds like a win-win-win to me.
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Mar 21, 2007 23:07
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fudsak posted:Sounds like a win-win-win to me. Sounds like "vaporware" to me.
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Mar 21, 2007 23:08
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Chemmy posted:Sounds like "vaporware" to me. I hear laser tv's are great for playing your Phantom console on 
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Mar 21, 2007 23:14
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Chemmy posted:Sounds like "vaporware" to me. That's what I was afraid of. I remember hearing a bunch of companies signing on to the whole laser technology thing and then dropping out, leaving Mitsubishi and a couple others.
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Mar 21, 2007 23:36
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Miko posted:In terms of HD programming, assuming I have an HDTV and basic cable, is there any way to get HD content without having to buy a box and pay for a HD subscription, when all I want are just the channels I watch already in HD? Just plug the cable into the back of your TV. It probably has a QAM tuner and will receive the typical broadcast channels in HD. All of the HD channels only cost me $5 extra a month, are you really that thrifty? The STB rental fee was included in my cable service anyway. Buying one would cost you hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
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Mar 21, 2007 23:48
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I remember hearing something about Sony doing a laser-based SXRD, but I'm not even 100% sure if that's the same technology. I'm not really getting my hopes up about SED or laser TV's. I really think that advancements in LCD and Plasma will completely overtake them (SED especially), and that by the time they hit the market in any sort of consumer-accessible form there would be little reason to buy one over a proven technology. Then again, I wouldn't mind being completely wrong, as I think it would be all kinds of awesome to be able to say I have a TV made out of lasers 
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Mar 21, 2007 23:54
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Miko posted:In terms of HD programming, assuming I have an HDTV and basic cable, is there any way to get HD content without having to buy a box and pay for a HD subscription, when all I want are just the channels I watch already in HD? If your TV has built in ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuners, all you need to do is buy a set of rabbit ears and/or plug in the coax line from an antenna. I dont know about your cable. ScootsMagoo posted:Has anybody heard anything new about laser? I remember hearing last year about laser TVs coming out sometime this year and they sounded promising. Apparently, it's a flat-panel unit with CRT picture quality that's 30% less expensive to produce than an LCD. ilikegrapejuice posted:I remember hearing something about Sony doing a laser-based SXRD, but I'm not even 100% sure if that's the same technology. Yes, I have heard Sony is looking into this for their RPTV lines. AFAIK it isn't as thin as flat panel - it's going to replace DLP/SXRD/LCDRP and is accordingly thinner than those existing sets.
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Mar 22, 2007 00:22
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Anyone have anything negative to say about the Samsung LN-S4095D 40" LCD TV. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000GDEZLQ/ref=nosim/luby-20 It seems like a really compelling price for a 1080p set.
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Mar 22, 2007 00:58
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The only thing I'd say is that you should be sure you need 1080p. There aren't many 1080p sources, and unless you sit real close it won't matter anyways.
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Mar 22, 2007 01:24
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bull3964 posted:Anyone have anything negative to say about the Samsung LN-S4095D 40" LCD TV. I looked into the 46" version of that Samsung when shopping for my new TV. It has excellent (for an LCD) picture quality, and is more full featured than the TV I ended up buying (It has PIP and a VGA input). I ended up going with a Sharp because I got a really great deal, and that Samsung doesn't handle de-interlacing 1080i inputs as well as the Sharp does. The world-ending, soul-crushing AVS forums problem associated with that model of Samsung is "Clouding", which is light "cloud" artifacts that appear during a black background.
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Mar 22, 2007 01:33
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Chemmy posted:The only thing I'd say is that you should be sure you need 1080p. There aren't many 1080p sources, and unless you sit real close it won't matter anyways. Here's my thinking: I have a pretty limited budget, so an expensive TV purchase is a HUGE thing for me. Basically, when I buy my new TV, I don't plan on buying another one for at least half a decade. Therefore, I want one that in 4 years from now, I won't look back and say "boy, I sure wish I had bought a TV with the best technology at the time." There will always be a better technology coming along, but right now 1080p HDTVs are the cream of the crop, and I don't forsee that technology being replaced anytime soon. Sure there aren't a lot of 1080p sources right now, but think about 2, 3, 4 years from now.
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Mar 22, 2007 01:40
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bull3964 posted:Anyone have anything negative to say about the Samsung LN-S4095D 40" LCD TV. The only drawback I would say is that you don't need 1080p at that size, and if you want to super future proof technology, it also doesn't have HDMI 1.3. Otherwise, it's all good.
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Mar 22, 2007 01:48
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caiman posted:Here's my thinking: I have a pretty limited budget, so an expensive TV purchase is a HUGE thing for me. Basically, when I buy my new TV, I don't plan on buying another one for at least half a decade. Therefore, I want one that in 4 years from now, I won't look back and say "boy, I sure wish I had bought a TV with the best technology at the time." If you were buying a 1080p like the Sony XBR2 or XBR3 I'd agree, but if you can only make one purchase I'd buy a high end 720p panel over something midrange but 1080p. This argument is more towards things like Westinghouse TVs though, that Samsung looks nice, I've seen it in person.
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Mar 22, 2007 02:11
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Moo Moo Bells posted:If it is 16:9 widescreen, Amazon becomes stupid for their listing. Its Amazon, the TV is widescreen. 16:9 video fills the screen completely, 4:3 leaves bars.
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Mar 22, 2007 03:51
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Moo Moo Bells posted:The only drawback I would say is that you don't need 1080p at that size, and if you want to super future proof technology, it also doesn't have HDMI 1.3. Otherwise, it's all good. Yeah. The main reason why I wanted a 1080p model is for the non-stupid native resolution that it supplies. Most of the 720p LCD sets I see have some off the wall native resolution of 1366x768 where the 1080p sets all have a nice 1920x1080. The newer HDMI standards are only audio improvements, right?
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Mar 22, 2007 04:10
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ilikegrapejuice posted:I remember hearing something about Sony doing a laser-based SXRD, but I'm not even 100% sure if that's the same technology. Laser TV will not happen until 2008 at the very earliest. SED is really the most promising new technology possibility for display at the moment, although that technology will likely not appear until next year either.
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Mar 22, 2007 04:14
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bull3964 posted:Yeah. The main reason why I wanted a 1080p model is for the non-stupid native resolution that it supplies. Most of the 720p LCD sets I see have some off the wall native resolution of 1366x768 where the 1080p sets all have a nice 1920x1080. HDMI 1.3 more than doubles the transfer rate from 4.95gb/s to 10.2gb/s, adds support for up to 48bit color, and xv.YCC color space, an audio/video "lip sync" function for devices doing a lot of signal processing, and support for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD. http://www.hdmi.org/resourcecenter/index.asp
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Mar 22, 2007 04:16
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^^^BLEEEEHbull3964 posted:The newer HDMI standards are only audio improvements, right? http://www.hdmi.org/resourcecenter/index.asp It says it has higher processing for colors. I'm not sure how much more that means, but m'eh. I doubt it's something noticeable, but I never got to compare it side-by-side. Edit: Answer me this, Chemmy. Do televisions have to be specially modified with a new color/picture processor to do the 48 bit color? Or will it be something that comes standard with HDMI 1.3? That was really awkwardly worded. Donkey Kunt fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Mar 22, 2007 |
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Mar 22, 2007 04:18
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Moo Moo Bells posted:Edit: Answer me this, Chemmy. Do televisions have to be specially modified with a new color/picture processor to do the 48 bit color? Or will it be something that comes standard with HDMI 1.3? The TV has to support HDMI 1.3 to be able to use up to 48 bit color. I guess a TV could have HDMI 1.3 and downsample colors to previous 24bit levels, so I'd assume you'd want a TV that specifically advertises xv.YCC or xv.COLOR I think Sony is calling it.
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Mar 22, 2007 04:23
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Perhaps update the 360 related section, because the fall update added the 1080p game support (I think) and 1080p HD-DVD playback (definitely), but only if you use the vga cable.
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Mar 22, 2007 06:01
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Well, doesn't it seem a bit overkill to be worrying about 48bit color on an LCD though? I mean, most of the normal models aren't capable of outputting 100% of the NTSC color spectrum as it is. I think the model I'm looking at can do 92%. I doubt we'll see many models that can do 100% or over until LED backlighting becomes common. Furthermore, are there going to be any sources with that much color information in them to begin with? Or am I misunderstanding a benefit of 48bit color? Oh well, I'm colorbind anyways.
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Mar 22, 2007 06:22
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bull3964 posted:Anyone have anything negative to say about the Samsung LN-S4095D 40" LCD TV. I have one of these in my room and the picture really is mind blowing. Be aware that some people do have clouding problems on some of their sets during very dark scenes (such as Batman Begins). I've experienced no such problems. All of the next-gen consoles look spectacular on it. The only drawback is the weak sound. I ordered mine off Amazon as well. No problems at all and about $600 cheaper than if I'd bought it at a brick&mortar store.
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Mar 22, 2007 08:20
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ScootsMagoo posted:Has anybody heard anything new about laser? I remember hearing last year about laser TVs coming out sometime this year and they sounded promising. Apparently, it's a flat-panel unit with CRT picture quality that's 30% less expensive to produce than an LCD. Mitsubishi said last year they would have Laser based DLP sets coming to the market link. But they also said they would ship them at Christmas, which hasn't happened yet  You might be thinking of SED link. That's the one that supposed to be fantastic and blow your mind, however its also undergoing serious litigation, Canon (yes that Canon) says they'll have sets out in Japan sometime this year, but I'm holding my breath as they were supposed to ship for the 06 Holiday season.
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Mar 22, 2007 09:14
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ail posted:If your TV has built in ATSC/NTSC/QAM tuners, all you need to do is buy a set of rabbit ears and/or plug in the coax line from an antenna. I dont know about your cable. They could do thin without lazers if they wanted to. This photo was from the January '06 CES:  RCA had a wall mountable version of their Scenium DLP (piece of poo poo-do not buy)on the market two years ago. TV manufacturers want to get away from lamp units that need to be replaced every two years. That's why they're interested in lazer or LED based rear projection sets. Samsung has a 56" LED DLP on the market right now but it isn't as bright as the lamp based sets so the viewing angle is a little disappointing. Meowrat posted:I have one of these in my room and the picture really is mind blowing. Be aware that some people do have clouding problems on some of their sets during very dark scenes (such as Batman Begins). I've experienced no such problems. All of the next-gen consoles look spectacular on it. The only drawback is the weak sound. Sony and Samsung use the same panels for their LCDs so the clouding issue affects both brands. It's not as prevalent as the AVS Forum (they have an absurd amount of trolls and industry plants stirring up poo poo) makes it seem but it is a problem. On the plus side you'll see it right away while you're still within the return period. It won't sneak up on you like the green blob issue did on the XBR1 SXRDs.
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Mar 22, 2007 16:27
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Thanks to Lowtax and Radium, megathreads aren't limited to 1000 posts anymore. THIS THREAD WILL LIVE FOREVER. 
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Mar 22, 2007 16:45
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bull3964 posted:Yeah. The main reason why I wanted a 1080p model is for the non-stupid native resolution that it supplies. Most of the 720p LCD sets I see have some off the wall native resolution of 1366x768 where the 1080p sets all have a nice 1920x1080. What's so stupid about it? True, the set will have to scale the image, but any good screen will have a good scaler and you won't even notice
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Mar 22, 2007 17:57
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WhyteRyce posted:What's so stupid about it? True, the set will have to scale the image, but any good screen will have a good scaler and you won't even notice I don't know. I'm sure it's an irrational nitpick, but I don't like how everyone seems to have different resolutions for 720p sets (hell some plasmas are 1024x768 with odd shaped pixels) while 1080p sets always seems to be the same 1920x1080. That consistency gives me comfort for some reason. It's not really founded in any fact I'll admit.
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Mar 22, 2007 19:10
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WhyteRyce posted:What's so stupid about it? True, the set will have to scale the image, but any good screen will have a good scaler and you won't even notice Because 1080p will be extremely prevalent in a few years, and having a TV that doesn't need to scale anything at all means less lag and a sharper picture (assuming the TV does not have non-defeatable scaling, which is lame as hell and I wish it would die). No scaling at all is preferable to scaling, even really good scaling.
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Mar 22, 2007 20:25
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Keisuke posted:Perhaps update the 360 related section, because the fall update added the 1080p game support (I think) and 1080p HD-DVD playback (definitely), but only if you use the vga cable. Someone help me out with this because I think I'm retarded. Is the "Component HD AV Cable" that came with my 360 the same thing as the vga cable?
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Mar 22, 2007 22:12
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XCPuff posted:Someone help me out with this because I think I'm retarded. Is the "Component HD AV Cable" that came with my 360 the same thing as the vga cable? No. Component HD AV cable = YPbPr/YCbCr component video. Three plugs, green (y) red (Pr) blue (Pb) VGA cable: terminates in a 15-pin VGA connection, like a computer monitor.
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Mar 22, 2007 22:16
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King Hotpants posted:No. Damnit. We'll more money being wasted. Thankyou kind sir.
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Mar 22, 2007 22:21
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bull3964 posted:Anyone have anything negative to say about the Samsung LN-S4095D 40" LCD TV. I got it two weeks ago at Circuit City for $1550. I love it.
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Mar 22, 2007 22:45
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Scrambles posted:Is there any reason why I should not get the HANNspree Xv 37" LCD? Anyone? It seems pretty rad for a budget tv, right?
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Mar 22, 2007 23:23
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Scrambles posted:Anyone? It seems pretty rad for a budget tv, right? I have never heard or seen that brand of television.
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Mar 23, 2007 00:17
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Moo Moo Bells posted:I have never heard or seen that brand of television. research { http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=hanns.g&x=0&y=0 That is their lcd computer monitor brand, and, like I said, every single product they have on newegg is rated extremely highly. If the panel is good value, I don't really care about anything else besides inputs, and this tv has plenty for my needs. They have been in the lcd tv world for quite some time, but the 37" I linked and its sister 32" are their first mainstream, affordable sets. } Every review that I can find for any of this company's products is excellent, and I am just afraid it is a "too good to be true" situation for a nice-looking 37" lcd at this price point.
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I've been looking at buying an HDTV fo when I graduate and I've been looking at the 46" Sony XBR-2. I've done a lot of comparison with other models (Samsing, JVC and Panasonic) and In my opinion, the XBR is one of the best (and priciest) HDTV's on the market. what do you tech-savvy goons think?
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unorthodoxender posted:I've been looking at buying an HDTV fo when I graduate and I've been looking at the 46" Sony XBR-2. I've done a lot of comparison with other models (Samsing, JVC and Panasonic) and In my opinion, the XBR is one of the best (and priciest) HDTV's on the market. what do you tech-savvy goons think? Sony makes high quality sets and the price reflects that. I doubt you'll be disappointed except with your bill.
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