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Torrent magnet link and online reader for the first chapter of Duranki. Hoping to have the second chapter of the introductory double feature out by tomorrow!
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Way better than Pee-Golem and Wrestle-Titan so far! I like the adventures of Kid Iinventedthis!
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Sep 10, 2019 05:38
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Amazing art as always from Miura. So what pantheon we in? Like the satyr screams Greek pantheon, but theres also the ark, isnt that just bible mythology?. Also usumgallu sounds like even older then greek. Mesopotamian? I guess its a mixup of stuff but heavily based on greek.
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Sep 10, 2019 05:57
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Huge thanks for the translation, another magnificent job! Cool idea so far, full of mystery, myth oriented and goat hearding! Art is really great, like how brightly lit it all is so far. Captain_duck posted:Amazing art as always from Miura. It feels heavily Greek oriented, the ark could be a reference to Deucalion, son of Prometheus. The mountain could be Parnassus where the ship wrecked. snickothemule fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Sep 10, 2019 |
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Sep 10, 2019 06:14
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Apparently there was a recent interview with Miura with the release of the new manga. I'm just going to steal the bullet points from some manga forum: (also includes link to original untranslated interview)quote:Interview with Kentaro Miura regarding his new series Duranki and how it affects Berserk Anyway, more Berserk is coming and to the surprise of no one it'll probably get depressing at some point again. Hopefully his plan pans out and we'll eventually get chapters out quicker- hahaha no I can't even finish that sentence. Hopefully next year we get more than two chapters. Also a picture of his setup (the original interview has more pics but I'm too lazy to grab them): 
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Sep 10, 2019 08:52
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Duranki appears to be set somewhere in the Levant, west of ancient Mesopotamia and east of ancient Greece. The supposedly-actual Mount Nisir is in Iraqi Kurdistan today. The manga is primarily about Sumerian divinities, but with Hermes and Pan showing up it's clear that the Greek gods are real as well (I'm kind of expecting this to be in the same universe as Gigantomakhia somehow). I figure the dragon dude at the start is Enki, but the jury's still out on the lady... The busted boat is the ark of Utnapishtim, featured in one of the earliest tellings of the flood myth that inspired the story of Noah's ark.
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Sep 10, 2019 09:42
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LordMune posted:The busted boat is the ark of Utnapishtim, featured in one of the earliest tellings of the flood myth that inspired the story of Noah's ark. Right i knew the flood myth was older then the bible, like its from gilgamesh or perhaps even older. I did not know that they even copied the idea of a boat in the mountains from older stories to.
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Sep 10, 2019 12:51
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Greek mythology in general has some very close structural parallels with the mythologies of older and contemporary cultures from the Levant and from Mesopotamia. You need to keep in mind that 'Greece' at that time was the area around the Aegean Sea, and quite a few important Greek city-states were located at what is now the west coast of Turkey. See this map from Wikipedia, showing the origins of the various Greek and Trojan heroes mentioned in the Iliad (also Homer's own supposed home region Ionia): Some scholars even consider ancient Greece to be more aptly described as a Near Eastern culture rather than a European one. In any case, Greco-Mesopotamian myth ragout starring a nonbinary child genius is certainly a more promising concept than "Attack on Titan, but with 100% more urine".
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Sep 10, 2019 17:20
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Not usually interested in posting about Berserk even though I love it but Duranki seems so cool that I was instantly sucked in and wanna talk about it. I'm loving the influences. The title, the name Usumgallu, the "reveal" of the ark ten pages in. Miura is so great at fantasy worldbuilding that I instantly wanna know everything about this world. Just to be clear, I see a lot of people saying that this only a two chapter short story, but it's actually a full new manga that he's making to help his assistants that just launched with two chapters right?
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Sep 10, 2019 17:34
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I suspect (based on the implied not-too-distant distance from Mount Olympus) that the Caria in the bottom right quadrant of this map is the Caria that Hermes and Enki and Unknown Goddess hang out in at the beginning of the chapter. Take it with a grain of salt though, it's hard with vague names that may or may not be Sumerian, may or may not be mythological, may or may not be historical, and finally have been run through a Japanese filter. EDIT: And there's Delos island, namesake of Gigantomakhia's protagonist. Expect My Mom posted:Not usually interested in posting about Berserk even though I love it but Duranki seems so cool that I was instantly sucked in and wanna talk about it. I'm loving the influences. The title, the name Usumgallu, the "reveal" of the ark ten pages in. Miura is so great at fantasy worldbuilding that I instantly wanna know everything about this world. Duranki will continue in November. I think Young Animal Zero will be monthly and Duranki is skipping October on account of launching with two chapters.
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Sep 10, 2019 18:13
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quote:2015 when Rakshas revealed his true identity. 4 years ago 
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Sep 10, 2019 20:49
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I only see one chapter? Or is it just double long. Either way, this is wholesome and I like it a lot. It's obviously skirting creepy territory, but I think it' fine so far? Presumably they'll wear more clothes in the future?  It's really efficient. Other than "monsters," all those tags apply to one character! (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) Liquid Dinosaur fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Sep 11, 2019 |
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Sep 11, 2019 05:04
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It launched with two chapters, second one is still being translated/typeset I'd guess
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Sep 11, 2019 05:06
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Seems very cool. Miura is probably “rebelling against mythology” by mashing a lot of gods and myths together. Pretty sure usumgallah is a famous monster in Babylon. Pan is obviously the Greek name for goat-creatures like that. Yogurt and cheese seem to be brand new inventions.
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Sep 11, 2019 05:54
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I'm not sure what's creepy about it? But maybe I'm just used to artistic and religious nudity. I thought the dancing with the nymphs scene was really enchanting. Miura always this really good almost narrator voice that he uses. Like when he talks about magic coming back into the Berserk world at the start of the Conviction arc or the "Though we could only see them dancing with the butterflies"
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Sep 11, 2019 06:07
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Expect My Mom posted:I'm not sure what's creepy about it? But maybe I'm just used to artistic and religious nudity. I thought the dancing with the nymphs scene was really enchanting. He's amazing. The way he ties magic into each characters emotions is really something, gives that fantasy element a sense of purpose for not just the world, but the phase his character is in. The bit he did with Guts being imprisoned as a kid where he meets the flower fairy is one of my all time favourite parts of Berserk, as a standalone story it can be interpreted as a coping mechanism for a struggling boy trying to survive ongoing abuse, but within the established rules of the Berserk world it's something that serves so much more. Miura's ability is tremendous!
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Sep 11, 2019 08:05
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And here's chapter 2, torrent coming tonight.
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Sep 11, 2019 10:21
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My big take away from this is man, I wish Berserk’s main cast included a dog. Those are some good doggos.
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Sep 11, 2019 17:59
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Lava Lamp Goddess posted:My big take away from this is man, I wish Berserk’s main cast included a dog. Good news! 
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Sep 11, 2019 18:07
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Torquemadras posted:I'll be forever thankful that somehow, Isidro is immune to the utter horror that is the world of Berserk That can be useful I remember in "Now and Then, Here and There" the protagonist is full of optimism and spunk, because anything less would see him tied to the tracks of the trauma train
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Sep 11, 2019 19:48
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Did the kid have to get naked?
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Sep 11, 2019 23:06
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skasion posted:Good news!
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Sep 12, 2019 00:22
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Pewdiepie posted:Did the kid have to get naked? You know the answer to that.
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Sep 12, 2019 04:07
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Creepy sexualisation of a kid aside, this is neat. Really up for more non-binary protagonists. The art is sort of skirting the border between sexualizing and taking a cue from "beautiful children" as depicted in classical art, I think. If not for Miura's track record with sexualizing kids in weird ways (i.e. the Piss Wrestling Saga) I'd be more willing to give it a pass.
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Sep 16, 2019 07:03
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Woebin posted:Creepy sexualisation of a kid aside, this is neat. Really up for more non-binary protagonists. 
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Sep 16, 2019 15:37
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The piss wrestling was pretty bad though, its true
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Sep 16, 2019 16:16
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Honestly I don't think having this conversation is even worth it. Miura is a bit of creep, the parts of Duranki where he wasn't being a creep were okay, the parts where he was literally didn't even need to be there. There's absolutely no point in going "but if the situation and context was entirely different, then maybe..." because that's dangerously close to excusing him for including naked Usumgallu for what basically amounts to a repetition of what was already clearly stated in the beginning of the manga. It was stupid, creepy and completely pointless. I feel like that's about all that needs to be said about it.
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Woebin posted:Creepy sexualisation of a kid aside, this is neat. Really up for more non-binary protagonists.  i really like the setting, and I'm already rooting for the protagonist. the art is great and like you said it has that "classical art" feel to it. if i didn't know much about miura then chances are i would have given the first two chapters the benefit of the doubt when answering the question "is this included because it's art, or because the artist is horny" oh gently caress off, we can have a brief conversation about art styles without the need to call each other pedophiles (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Sep 16, 2019 18:10
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See, I don’t think it is pointless. I think it refers to those stupid naked baby cherubs the Church always makes statues and paintings of. I don’t know why drawing naked angels is okay, but it’s very common in lots of religions. Pan the goat-boy is equally naked, as per his standard Greek mythology depictions.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:52
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Look, when the nymphs show up and they are down to dance, you drop everything and motherfucking DANCE.
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Sep 17, 2019 01:29
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piss wrestling manga was good. just, yknow, remove the piss
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Sep 20, 2019 23:50
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What about the racism
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Sep 21, 2019 00:16
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Rody One Half posted:What about the racism I.... forgot about that.
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Sep 21, 2019 00:31
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How racist are we talking?
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Sep 21, 2019 01:22
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Pretty much literally exactly the same as Terraformars actually.
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Sep 21, 2019 01:24
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Rody One Half posted:Pretty much literally exactly the same as Terraformars actually. Evil cockroach people who are drawn to look like black caricatures? Who knew there was a link between racism and being pissed on?
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Sep 21, 2019 03:46
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racism is stored in the balls, just like piss
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Sep 21, 2019 04:40
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i don't think the bugmen were evil it was still racist though
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Rody One Half posted:Pretty much literally exactly the same as Terraformars actually.
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