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Lotish posted:I'm also curious why he was having relatively positive recollections of Gambino in that flashback. Gambino raised him, taught him how to survive, but also abused and mistreated him until Guts killed him. I wonder if that relationship is reflected in the bearded soldier--the man uses Guts to get an advantage, but in the end helps Guts survive against certain death. Certainly, but I think it's also pretty strongly reflected in Griffith. Without Griffith, Guts wouldn't be going through all the awful poo poo he's spent the last few years going through, but it was also Griffith who gave him the chance to be something more than a wandering killer who didn't care if he lived or died.
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I can't imagine Casca going to rejoin Griffith at this stage, but I can definitely see her regaining her sanity (through elf magic or whatever) and immediately pulling a Guts, abandoning everyone who cares about her, and wandering the world killing poo poo until she dies.
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Feb 2, 2013 00:06
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Aesop Poprock posted:What's the general consensus on the Anime? I watched the first episode and it was decent, but the manga's catching my attention a lot more. Obviously it's not going to be allowed to be as graphic and they already changed up the basic structure of the first chapter by having it be some girl he saves instead of Puck. Is it generally considered to be a good adaptation? It's not much of an adaptation and doesn't have nearly the budget required to do the manga justice; that said, it's still one of my favorite shows, and the soundtrack has become inseparable from Berserk for me.
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Jun 17, 2013 22:24
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Edit: Guts is inarticulate as gently caress, he's not gonna tell a kid about how everyone he knows got raped and eaten and maimed.
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Aug 8, 2014 07:19
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Is the beginning of the manga (with Guts killing the succubus mid-sex) semi-frequently homaged or something? The new Garo show did something vaguely similar and it got called out as a cliche in the season thread, but I've only ever seen anything like it here and in that show. Always thought it was a reference to the Wolf Witch scene in Conan the Barbarian
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Oct 13, 2014 23:16
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Pleiades posted:Don't worry, they'll get there and it'll be like Fellowship of the Ring What, they all split up and have to face the power of evil alone without one another's support? Seems a little too bleak for modern Berserk. If Casca does get cured though (can't believe this is still in doubt almost twenty years after retard Casca first became a thing), I honestly can't imagine poo poo going any other way. Casca is hardened killer, surely she wants to settle with Griffith.
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Oct 16, 2014 05:27
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Bloodyshinta1 posted:People try to act like Berserk is the second coming of Shakespeare in manga form.... its not. It's got a lot of gross and weird poo poo in it and if you can't handle it that's fine. Miura is a great artist though and if you can stomach it, enjoy it for what it is. Shakespeare is full of rape, gratuitous violence and poop jokes for an audience of random chumps off the street though
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Jul 30, 2015 21:05
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Mraagvpeine posted:What about the daughter of the Apostle near the beginning of the series? Obviously going to spend years offscreen turning into a burly bad rear end with spiky armor and a giant sword so she can pop up in chapter 999 to brutally murder Old Man Guts in front of his family
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Aug 29, 2015 06:38
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Red Mundus posted:My understanding about the Berserk movies is that cgi/anime movies bring in dogshit profits in Japan and aren't worth making long-term franchises. Apparently studio ghibli said something of the sort as well about their animated movies. Pretty much every traditional cartoon ever made by anyone not named Walt Disney has made money on merchandising or not at all. Hence the insanely cost-cutting way in which anime are made and all the low wages/outsourcing/ugly rear end CG. You can do it like that, or else sell Evangelion dinner sets for 10000 yen basically.
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Nov 29, 2015 04:37
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Terrible Opinions posted:I guess the question then is why does anime have so much more issue making back its costs compared to western animation? Are American cartoons just cheaper to make, does anime have too small of a market, or some other issue? Yes and yes, generally speaking. Good animation is hard, expensive, and time-consuming and the entire history of animation has been a search for ways to mitigate that. American cartoons are rarely animated in anything approaching a "naturalistic" style, which Berserk pretty much demands. There are plenty of Japanese cartoons that are widely watched and make plenty of money; they tend to be the ones that don't involve elaborate revenge sagas about medieval mercenaries fighting rape horse demons and such. A lot of anime is made with the expectation that they can bilk a load of money out of a small core of obsessive fans, because the fact that it isn't going to have wide appeal is a foregone conclusion.
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Mraagvpeine posted:I heard from a friend that I should skip the first episode of the anime. Said that it messed up the rest of the series. Any merit to that claim? Only if you're a Berserk virgin and are going into it expecting it to be a gritty realistic drama about medieval mercenaries or something. There are no episodes of the show which you should skip if you're going to watch the show, they're all at a pretty consistent standard.
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Rodyle posted:Didn't Slann straight up call SK Gaiseric? She calls him Your Highness (dunno what the exact wording is in the original). Given that there is a previously established skull-helmet-wearing king in Midland who fell foul of the God Hand, and it was Gaiseric, it's pretty safe assumption that they're one and the same, but it has not ever been made explicit that he is Gaiseric.
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Jan 7, 2016 22:22
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The 90s show wasn't an OVA, but it's decent. Cheaply made for sure, but it often looks nice and occasionally looks really good. It's well acted and has a great soundtrack. It does cut a lot but so do the movies, which are also gently caress ugly. I can't recommend them over the show in all honesty, the third movie is alright but the first two are clumsy as poo poo.
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May 13, 2016 21:02
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:everything about berserk is meant to be gratuitous It's this and I think it is a bit silly when people say that the treatment of women in the manga makes them uncomfortable. Obviously it uses rape as a means to shock appall & titillate, but for a story as over-the-top as Berserk it feels absurd to say that every other element of it is completely okay, it's just this one thing keeping it from being approved by the morality police. Nothing about the story is comfortable, it is unapologetically exploitative and edgy. The Eclipse is an emotionally affecting sequence for sure, but its depictions of violence and rape verge on the pornographic. The opening scene of the manga depicts a man having violent sex with a hot babe who then turns into an evil demon, which he seamlessly transitions into slaughtering. This is a Conan the Barbarian reference but it also sets the stage for a portrait of a world and society which is topsy-turvy, amoral and hellish, where sex and murder are inextricably linked, all earthly powers are demonic entities living to torture the innocent, and the whole universe is literally ruled by devils serving the whims of a malevolent God created by human evil and delusion. It's more misanthropic than particularly misogynistic.
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May 20, 2016 01:28
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Void is the holy man, Skull Knight is Gaiseric
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May 28, 2016 19:56
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temple posted:Griffith assassinated the duke and queen because they had previously tried to kill him. Guts was the one that got sword happy and had to kill kids. At every point, Guts was side by side with Griffith in the political part so it makes both of them look bad. The only cold blooded murder on Griffith's hands is killing the pederast, which I know this SA, but most people aren't going to cry over a child molester getting a saber sandwich. Uh, also all the Hawks.
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May 29, 2016 03:11
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Serious Frolicking posted:They never specifically explained what that kid is, but I think we mostly reached a consensus that it was probably their gross mutant baby. Though I seem to recall someone doing an effort post about how it was Griffith losing control of his body on nights of the full moon? They backed it up with panels so it was kind of convincing. Yeah, the theory ran that it's Griffith turning back into Guts and Casca's kid during the full moon, and Zodd is following the kid around to make sure he doesn't get killed before he can turn back into Griffith
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Jun 9, 2016 17:54
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Have to say I'm not surprised they don't want to cover multiple arcs, but Conviction is only about 60 chapters (for comparison, Golden Age is around 100) so the pacing might have to be pretty lethargic if they don't want to do any material from Millennium Falcon.
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Jun 11, 2016 21:31
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apropos to nothing posted:you people are extremely negative. this month theres a new chapter, a new game announced, and a new anime about to premier and all any of you do is complain about seeing a cgi breast No cgi titty in my ultra violent edgy demon rape manga no sir, seems too edgy for me
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Torquemadras posted:"Oh hey! We mermaids hosed up for some reason! This isn't Elf Island at all!" ...and on THIS island, everyone acts like a prohibition era gangster owing to a wacky mix up with a 22nd-century history book
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Grouchio posted:They skipped not only Lost Children but Black Swordsman and the Dragon-slayer reveal, whitewashed Casca, and managed to make the animation/editing worse than in the PV. Jesus fuckin- Need a cleaned up version of this for new avatar
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Jul 1, 2016 19:08
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:Berserk anime sounds like one big substitution jutsu. Karap. The bit where Guts and Casca finally get it on in the third movie was p good if I recall
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Bad Seafood posted:Berserk text adventure. Ye find yeself in yon Qliphoth
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The OP and ED for Kenpu Denki Berserk are unironically great. Especially the ED just has this eerie quality to it that screams Berserk to me. Also I have been waitin so rong for Guts to get off the boat, so I find it very relatable in my daily life.
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Relin posted:what instrument is used in the beginning of waiting so long? a guitar and? sounds like synthesized viola or cello or something to me
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There's nothing whatsoever in the way of serious critical reading of Berserk except what bored nerds can come up with, what reputable academic is going to play dice with his career over the deep meaning contained within Japanese ultra violence rape horse comics? For what it's worth I think that Miura gets, or perhaps more so used to get, a hardon out of drawing rape and violent sex, often involving seriously grotesque elements and monsters. But I think he also deliberately employs these as elements in his storytelling to draw a line connecting sex and violence, to say that they are rooted in similar urges which are in some way inhuman and monstrous. And of course to get a rise out of his audience as well. I think just about everything that you need to know about what Berserk is about is contained in that first scene: Guts has sex with a babe, she turns into a demon, and he promptly blows her loving head off. It's like coitus interruptus with a god drat artillery piece standing in for his symbolically demon-castrated junk.
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It's a good OP and Waiting So Long is a good ED, and I seriously feel bad for anyone who thinks the OP or ED of this show are good on any level.
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Aug 11, 2016 04:42
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logger posted:I like the nod to Rip Van Winkle, with the elves sleeping around a game of 10 pins. They're gonna leave Elfheim and Griffith will be 100 years old with a Dumbledore beard
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Aug 26, 2016 00:11
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Whoops. Didn't mean to imply that, particularly since I was covering a fast paced action scene. Writing at midnight means I won't be covering all my bases. Thief and the Cobbler doesn't live up to its potential for sure, and what is left of the movie is certainly badly paced, but to say everything about it is sub par is a tad harsh. There's some great voice acting in there if nothing else, for Zigzag especially.
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Sep 1, 2016 12:18
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We're heading for a Devilman ending. In about 2116
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The Flowerstorm King is too light a figure to be seriously villainous, her banter with Puck wouldn't be really credible if she were intended to be an antagonist. But I wouldn't be surprised if she has a Galadriel moment where she seriously shows off her power, or if Farnese and Schierke gently caress up and open a door through the interstice.
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Sep 23, 2016 03:03
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:In Dark Souls 3, the "poise" stat does literally nothing (among other things making heavy armor nearly worthless compared to older games in the series) and the developers repeatedly insisted that it was working as intended. This was never true, but it's now (after a lot of patching) way less true.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:what would happen if you used a monkey's paw and wished for a poo poo berserk anime? Claymation adaptation of Berserk where everything is molded from human filth
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Apr 2, 2017 19:16
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So did Berserk, in 1997
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Apr 10, 2017 20:45
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The Rock as Guts. At the climax of the movie he punches out Femto, blasts through the eclipsed moon on a motorbike, and spontaneously breaks into a rendition of "Tell Me Why".
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May 16, 2017 01:14
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Berserk is a hard enough sell without focusing on the arc where the villain is a demonic, nude preteen
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May 16, 2017 20:59
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He's gonna kill Griffith and the people of Falconia will hate him forever for killing their messiah and destroying the one nice place in a world now chock full of dragons, demons, and other hosed up astral poo poo. When Guts kills Griffith he will leave behind a new dark age, he will be remembered as the Alaric or Attila who personally ruined the world out of his hatred towards nice things. Only worse, because Attila didn't literally kill Jesus.
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May 18, 2017 18:18
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Darth Walrus posted:Well, Farnese took all that remarkably well. Kid's come a long way. Casca is going to go all Black Swordswoman and head off on her own. No matter how positively she feels about Guts, she's not just going to be able to just snap back into their relationship the way it was years ago. She's probably going to gently caress right off Elfheim, sail the seven seas, and show up to save the group on the way back to Falconia or something.
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