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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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Harlock posted:

Sadly, I can't speak much on the behalf of the Manga, as I don't really bother to read it, although I've heard it's even better. Going to Skullknight's forums every so often to get plot summaries are just enough for me.
The anime is a glorified commercial for the manga. I love the anime myself but the two don't deserve to be in the same sentence. You won't regret checking it out if you liked the anime.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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When was the last time Puck appeared in a non-SD form? He's been comic relief since the Tower arc or so. And, honestly, I think it's a role that fits him.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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You take that back, "Tell Me Why" was awesome :mad:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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Guts would only be in his early 40's, so it doesn't really make that much sense to me why he would have so much white hair. But then again the Berserker's armor already started whiting out some of it because of his frayed nerves or whatever. Still a pretty funny/cool image.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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krunaldo posted:

Of topic question: What's the source to the quote you have in your text?
Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann :kamina:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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If you could provide me with a guarantee that Miura isn't going to die in the next 15 years I have no problem with him taking his time. I just fear the worst!

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
The anime doesn't have Skullknight, either.

A lot of people went from the anime to the manga, and it really isn't so bad because you eventually realize that in the grand scope of things the entirety of the anime (which was, all things considered, loving awesome) was just laying the bare foundations for the main story. When that hits you, and you see the 20 or so more volumes left in front of you, well it's a good feeling.

And then you catch up and wind up in our current situation :(

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Read from the start :black101:

On top of things left out (or added) between the two versions, also keep in mind that the manga is considerably more hosed up/violent than the anime. So if that last episode makes you squeamish, you'll be in for even more fun in the manga.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I think the main problem Miura has right now is that the last several chapters have all had many uses of double page spreads with tons of characters. We've seen large groups of people, such as armies, in just about every chapter for the past year. Coupled with Miura's one man army approach to drawing and his penchant for insane detail, and you get these delays. I bet if it was just Guts and his gang the chapters would be much more regular.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Man, for a change I'm all pumped up after a Berserk chapter and now it's another long (relatively) wait :(

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Didn't Slan say during the troll massacre that Guts' dragon slayer has effectively been cursed to be able to harm the god hand?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Elentor posted:

I'm almost giving up on these series. It's so sad, really. I'm waiting so long that my interest has just been dying.
I don't think I'll ever give it up, but it is frustrating. If the cause is truly the time and effort required for the extensive, sweeping artwork and two page spreads, perhaps there will be a day when Miura decides to tone it down in favor of expediance.

Something kind of similiar happened with Avatar, where there were 10 month breaks inbetween seasons and close to that amount of time inbetween mid-season breaks as well. I think I even said the same words way back then on the subject. There was a light at the end of the tunnel for that eventually, and I believe there will be one for Berserk as well.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Turn A posted:

Is Kentarō Miura planning on finishing the story, any time soon?
Yeah, about that... :suicide:

E: I am convinced that Miura has essentially become content in releasing just enough chapters to have one tankoban released per year. From 1993 to 2003, there were 2 tankoban volumes released each year. It wasn't until 2004 that it dropped to 1 a year, though in 2006 he released 2. Thus I doubt going forward we can count on having more than an average of 10 chapters a year.

Even that sounds overly optimistic. How many got released in 2007? And there's been, like 5 or 6 in 2008? I'm going to bet 2009 is going to be the first year since Berserk started we don't get a new volume, unless again Miura has some master plan.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Sep 19, 2008

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Looks like it will only be an alternate cover. What's important is...

quote:

The special promotion will mark the return of Berserk to Young Animal after a four-month break.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

TooManyUzukis posted:

RANDOM TANGENT: that is one of the most obscure usernames/avatars I've seen and I'm not sure if I feel sad or happy that I get both.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Claymore got a lot, lot better when it stopped pretending to be like Berserk and decided to basically just be a shounen fighting manga with a good amount of twists every few chapters. Until you've read up until volumes 3 or 4 (the Theresa flashback arc), you haven't really seen what Claymore's all about. It's not going to win any literary awards for its plot but its a pretty fun story with lots of limb-removing action, and the artwork goes from :downs: with huge foreheads everywhere to some pretty awe-inspiring designs, especially with the Awakened Beings. They might even give Griffith's patented two page spreads a run for their money. Claymore is also fun because it takes the M. Night Shyamalan approach by having as many twists as possible and ultimately is only concerned with getting to the next big fight.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
That's so ridiculous, like he's trolling the fans or something. Or making fun of himself for taking so many breaks and isn't being serious.

I wonder if that's worse than the author of Hellsing taking so many breaks to draw porn. At least that finished, though.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Wait, another new chapter? The last one came out like a week or so ago didn't it? When was the last time Miura did a release on his original, bi-weekly schedule?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Elentor posted:

3D Realms just closed its doors before releasing Duke Nukem Forever.


I have a bad feeling about this :(
I know the delays piss everyone off but a handful of chapters a year is nothing compared to the epic saga of Duke Nukem Forever.

I'll always hold onto faith that Miura will eventually abandon his Idolmaster ways (or at least hire a few assistants) and will go back to releasing Berserk at its old pace.

At least he's not Togashi.

Gwynne posted:

Do the dark horse volumes really do Berserk justice? They just seem so small and I am spoiled with high res scans.
Extremely good quality. As for the size, it's no smaller than the original tankoban. Although they made a few mistakes in the first volume with (IIRC) the castle name changing mid-volume the translation has been excellent. Overall it's infinitely better quality than the Band of the Hawks scans. I don't think people remember how bad those scans were for the early volumes.

The biggest problem with the Dark Horse release is that sometimes edges of the page get cut off, even cutting into a word bubble and its dialogue.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 15:11 on May 7, 2009

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

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ElMaligno posted:

But I am very happy and sad that Berserk will end soon. At least we will have a resolution!
Maybe I'm losing track of what is satire on this page and what is not, but what? Miura seemingly said that the Falconia chapter is coming to an end soon, which makes sense if you consider the latest few chapters, not that the manga was ending soon.

Tentaviely speaking, it looks like Berserk is actually going to get going at a decent pace once again...

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
2 chapters a month for 2 months in a row, it's madness :psyduck:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

JerseyMonkey posted:

Wow, I didn't realise this manga has been going for 20 loving years.
The pilot/concept story was what was published in 1988. Berserk as we know it started in 1990, when the first tankoban was released. Even then Berserk wasn't actually serialized until 1992.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It's the last page that interests me to the most because it's good to know Miura remembers how to draw Guts, even if it wasn't a part during the chapter.

So Griffith has reshaped the world, and is now its magical emperor or whatever. Fine, that has plenty of potential for problems for Guts and company. But they're not going to be able to deal with that immediately so like GET BACK TO THEM ALREADY.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
"It's been a while, though."

Yeah, no kidding.

But yeah I'm feeling it again..

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Gee, I wonder what kind of imagery Miura was trying to invoke with those monster designs.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It boggles my mind how long it took for the last arc/chapter to finish.

'Hawk of the Millennium Empire Arc' started in chapter 179, back in December 2001. 'Chapter of Falconia' itself started in chapter 236, back in 2004.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Oct 25, 2009

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Also funny is that due to the slow release schedule in Japan, Dark Horse should catch up to the latest tankoban release (volume 34) in 2010. I would guess around April or so.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Oct 26, 2009

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
If Hunter x Hunter can go on hiatuses that eclipse a year without getting cancelled then I see no reason why Berserk can't do the same.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Toadsniff posted:

Can someone please enlighten me on this whole Idolmaster thing, I just want to know why you all are placing the man himself beside utter dross?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolmaster

Really, the first paragraph at the top is pretty much all you need to read.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Now those are some two-page spreads I can get behind :hellyeah:

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It is my hope that one day Baccano! might be considered one of those type of universal shows.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

YouTuber posted:

The Skull Knight already came to the conclusion that Caska doesn't want to be sane. Hence why he keeps saying "What you want may not be what she wants." Gutz wants Caska to be normal more than anything in the world. The entire time we've been misled because he wanted to kill Griffith so badly.
The discussion was kind of steered towards this anyway, but I always interpreted that line such that even if Guts cures Caska she won't necessarily want to stay with him.

Which I think Guts on some level knows and understands. There is no happy ending in sight for him and Caska.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Volume 22 is the latest volume out from Dark Horse as far as I can tell, and they're up to 26 in Japan and it's still ongoing. Though it's supposed to be the final arc.

I really love BotI, and have been reading the Dark Horse releases for years. I actually think I like the antagonists like Magatsu and Anotsu the most. Manji has somehow been completely driven from the spotlight in terms of character development. His immortality has become less and less of an issue, almost to the point where I wonder if the author just decided he didn't really want a story about a immortal feudal Japan wanderer slicing evil people up. I can't even remember the last time they even referenced the 1000 men he's supposed to kill. It's become a complete non-issue.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

tsob posted:

The one thing I didn't like about Blade of the Immortal is that Manji is supposed to be this great swordsman but always seemed to win fights in the first few volumes (all I read) because he was immortal and not because he was in any way a better swordsman. Does this ever change during the course of the manga?

I might have to try reading it again if the author focuses more on Rin because I remember liking her, though I can't remember enough to say why since it was years ago I read what I did.
It doesn't change at all; in fact that's somewhat of a major plot point now. He's no where near as good of a swordsman as most of the villains, and it vexes him to no end. But it hasn't been as "important" because, like I said, the focus of the story has drastically shifted away from Manji.

Rin has indeed been pretty important though, so you have that at least.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I laughed harder than I should have at "All the villagers are tentacles!"

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
A part of me wishes they could reproduce the old, grainy, simplistic cel animation from the first series rather than digital animation for the new series.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I'm kind of disappointed in myself for not considering that twist. Should have seen it coming.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It's more like the anime only covers about 1% of the total story, and you'd have to re-read it anyway since the anime skips over several important scenes and character introductions. So, that being the case, other than serving as an advertisement for the manga (with an awesome Susumu Hirasawa soundtrack), there isn't much point to watching the anime.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Savor it slowly.

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Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
I would say that yes the atmosphere has changed, but it is still overall quite great. The problem is the pacing is completely whacked, due mostly to the release schedule.

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