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Scoobi posted:Dude, no way, the mutant raiders led by Zodd are all kinds of hosed up looking. They're gross We've seen them before. They're weird looking humans in their human form, but it's not until they go Apostle that poo poo goes to hell. Every Apostle could pass as a really hosed up, monstrous human, they only look truly monstrous when they unleash their Apostle power. The exception for some reason being Locus, who looks like a normal human in human form.
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Dim Mak posted:I'm a little interested in how Schierke's angle is going to play out. She seems a bit smitten with Guts, and on the one hand it could be the strong male/big brother/fatherly kind of attraction(much like Farneze's attraction to him seems to be), but she keeps dropping hints that it might be something more, i don't know, jailbaitly. Well the fact that Evarella constantly makes fun of her to Schierke's embarrassment, it's quite obvious she has a bit of a crush in him. Farneze's relationship him I wouldn't say is fatherly as much as like an inspirational icon to her, like Griffith is to the rest. He's inspiring in his own way, and his defiance against the world, his utter will make him a mirror and yet a foil to Griffith in a lot of ways. The same reasons Farneze follows Guts could lead her to follow Griffith in time. But yeah, Schierke's crush on Guts is pretty much not two-way; Guts has a paternal like feeling with her, but it'd be hard to go that car. It's more properly on his end just elaboration on his comradeship-like vibes he gets.
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Fedora Chap posted:reminding us how awesome Griffith is every loving time we see him. Its supposed to piss you off. Griffith is being deified as a Saint by Midland and the entirety of Europe and the reader + Guts are the only ones who really realize what an evil, unforgivable rear end in a top hat he is. Griffith has the world as his bitch right now; his conflict with Gankushka is just another "fated" (created of course) thing to build up his power and prestige.
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Gvaz posted:Doesn't he want to finish it and move on? He has stated repeatedly that Berserk is his magnum opus, his life's work, his masterpiece. He wants it to be perfect and lasting. It shows.
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^ Ouch  Poor Dune.Nate RFB posted:If you could provide me with a guarantee that Miura isn't going to die in the next 15 years I have no problem with him taking his time. I just fear the worst! He's only 40 right now, so in terms of age he has some longevity ahead of him. The odds favor him so we can only hope.
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Nebakenezzer posted:February 9th, and still no release date set. Over four months edit; Maybe Miura can write only every eclipse. There's one coming up on the 20th 
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Jimmybob posted:According to Skullknight.net, Berserk will resume again on the 23rd. Take that as you will, but I've always found them to be a reliable source of information. ... maybe my eclipse prediction is right 
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Taumpy Tearrs posted:Probably the best part of the anime series is the ending. Which came out of absolutely nowhere. You should probably read the manga since the entire series is along the lines of what happens in the end. Except more awesome. Zorak fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Feb 13, 2008 |
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Pyrus Malus posted:I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the that the reason Gatts can struggle against the Godhand, the Apostles, etc is because he was born from a corpse and fated to die. So he's sort of "outside" the wheel of fate. I don't think a corpse literally got pregnant and gave birth. Rather, his mother was hanged/ died and he somehow managed to survive and get out.
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Tualek posted:Hey, at least it's better than Hellsing where Hirano won't release a chapter for months because he is too busy drawing porn. You're giving him too much credit, it's usually because Hirano is too busy jacking off to porn. He's given this excuse before, actually.
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Have they even translated 293 yet?  Edit: On 294... YES MIURA WE GET IT, GRIFFITH IS AWE INSPIRING AND MAJESTIC HOW MANY TWO PAGE SPREADS OF HIM LOOKING MAJESTIC ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE US SEE Zorak fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Mar 13, 2008 |
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Zackarotto posted:Interesting chapter. I can see those Kushan assassins joining up with Griffith in time, like everybody else does. I gotta say, considering how rarely Berserk is released, that if you really don't like the political Griffith stuff, you might as well find another manga to satiate your bloodlust. Maybe something like Gantz. I disagree. Like he said, they've seen the "things beyond the knowledge of man" enough. While the others are merely putting faith that everything will be okay beyond this, they've SEEN the kin that fate holds, and they're nightmarish, horrific things that live on the lives of others. If anything, he's going to stand like Guts does, upon the precipace. His philosophy you might notice is a lot like Guts', his background is similar too. Forced into being a mercenary just to survive, relying only on their strength despite it all. The difference is, he is still "waiting and seeing", still following the Demon Emperor despite knowing what it is. Guts would have given it the finger right away (and quite possibly died by doing so), so the difference of course is how much they're willing to take. The Assassins disagree with the horrors the Emperor is doing, but they seem to be too afraid, even if they don't act that way, to act against them. Maybe Guts is going to get a new party member someday 
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Jimmybob posted:Guts pretty much already did do that. Back in chapter 275. It was pretty badass too! Yes, but Guts has became a lot more durable since he got the brand/ Berserker Armor, compared to how those assassin guys, which while strong, probably couldn't stand a chance I think against an Apostle, other then maybe a weaker level one.
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Mr. Deathy posted:^yeah uh I certainly don't recall that. I can only remember 2 instances in which Gutts has met Griffith after the eclipse, those being when the Godhand are summoned in one of the first view volumes and that other time where Gutts ends up fighting Zodd, which I completely forget the circumstances of too. He was refering to the last one. You know, where Guts goes all loving out and tries to murder-destroy Griffith, even though he looks just like he used to, and is only stopped by Zodd interfering, and then Caska getting in the middle of it. In other words, Guts already has established that he by no means has he forgotten or forgiven Griffith, no matter what the gently caress he looks like.
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I find it interesting how the girl said "the logic of the world is ending"; indeed, that is sort of what Ganishka did it seems by using his "demon machine" while already being an Apostle, he basically broke the gate between the Spirit Realm and the normal realm where he's at wide open. Apostles, while supernatural beings as a result of being the chosen of fate and being embued with dark power, in the end have physical bodies that CAN physically die as much as any, though with a lot more effort. Spiritual weapons can damage them more, true, but their form is physical all in all. Ganishka seems to be losing most of that physical form, becoming more something of the spirits. While before his form was already effected by his emotions, now his will and wants and emotions are even more manifest. Zoolooman and I were discussing exactly how Ganishka and Guts differ; I mean, both stand against Griffith, both are bound to the spiritual and the physical, but it's obvious that Ganishka will lose to Griffith, no matter how he tried, no matter what powers he tries to gain. I think the obvious answer is that Ganishka, no matter what, belongs to the God Hand; he was made into an Apostle by the whim of fate, sacrificing his humanity, his will, his life in exchange for power. Of course, then one has to look at the humans around Griffith who are ensnared in Griffith's story too, even though they never took power from him, never gave up their souls to him. Perhaps this is a result of their unconscious desires, perhaps its a result of them being of the world "sacrificed" by the egg at the holy tower in order for the "new world" with Griffith reincarnated as savior, who knows? However, what's interesting, I think, is Guts; how can Guts succeed when Ganishka, who is far more powerful, it seems, is destined to fail? I think its that, like I said, Ganishka BELONGS to Griffith; rebel as he may, he's merely thrashing in the palm of the hand that bears him aloft. He gave up himself for power, and he can't take back that loss so easy. Guts on the other hand already was tossed aside by Griffith. He was used by Griffith as his OWN sacrifice, and as Zoolooman put it, this "on the tally of fate he's already dead". He can't be given away, he can't be manipulated because he no longer belongs to Griffith and the machinations of fate but only to fate itself. Because he is not bound to Griffith's fate, he's the only one who can go against it. Ganishka, the Apostles, the people of the world are but actors in Griffith's play; their rebellions, even pitting against him, is all to the tempo and guidance of his hand. Guts however is the actor he used and tossed away in an earlier performance; he's simply not a player. Being on the outside means that he can interfere with the play. Personally, I can't wait to see what Guts ends up doing.
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Jedah posted:As for Gatsu, I think the Skull Knight will somehow be intertwined with his destiny and have a vital role in defeating Griffith. Though it hasn't been revealed yet, I think the Skull Knight played the unsung Hero of the pre-Griffith Midland, though it seems he sacrificed himself to become an apostle? I'm betting in his day and age, he carried many of the same burdens as Gatsu. Plus, we still don't know anything about his realm-ripping Behelit sword, or what powers it holds. I think its fairly obvious the Skull Knight is in fact not an Apostle, but rather more like what Guts is; a branded one, but one who for the sake of fighting and becoming stronger through external means consumed his own body and humanity in the process.
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Algid posted:Not quite, it been suggested that Void was personally involved with the emperor (as the wiseman mentioned in the story, while skull knight is the emperor), and he ascended as the fifth member of the godhand at the same time the empire collapsed. We now know that he is the senior (and presumably eldest) godhand, while Femto is the fifth member of the godhand. Since it's been said that causality is a spiral, it could very well be that the godhand has a specific (though low) turnover rate. Actually, we don't know what number godhand he was, just that they said "Four" "or maybe five" angels came to save the wiseman and destroy Gaeseric's kingdom. So it could be a thing of pure ambiguity. There also doesn't seem to be a clear command structure, Void just seems to be the guy who does the branding because... that's what he does. There's certainly no indication that a member of the Godhand can be defeated or killed, that they're anything short of being utterly immortal. We just sort of assume that Guts will find a way.
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Jedah posted:When, if ever, will this come into play? Well, even if its canon, there's always the possibility that there's something more. The Idea of Evil (and thus the Idea of Good, since the two are interconnected) said that Griffith was an eventual result of fate, guided across generations to culminate in his creation, and that Griffith's will and actions will be, no matter what, to his will... Which means the God Hand are in the same position to the Idea that the Apostles are to the God Hand; they are in the end caught in that web. Guts being the one forsaken by Griffith may mean that he's the only one capable of killing him, that he even resides outside the Idea's control (after all, the Idea is the epitome of "fate" and "predestination", the two things Guts lives in utter contradiction to; damned to die, and yet of everything, he is a SURVIVOR). The question is, of course, is Guts merely the byproduct of the idea or is he the product the Idea wanted all along? Was Guts merely the means to create Griffith, or was it the other way around? Perhaps the removal of one such of Guts from "the system" was the intention all along. Humanity attaches itself to ideas of good, evil, and a hope for something other, for fate... but it also longs for freedom, for hope and a tranquility unchallenged. Perhaps Guts was created to represent that dynamic; perhaps by slaying Griffith, he'll create that "free" world... maybe that's what the Idea, what humanity, REALLY wants, deep beneath the longings for 'fate' in the world of Berserk. Of course, this is all wild speculation.
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^ Perhaps; God itself was created in Berserk by the unconscious desires of the whole of humanity and is thus still a creation dominated by human will and karma, so who knows. Obviously the "new world" people hope for is a world of peace without conflict, but that never works with humans calling the shot, but let's not forget what Slann said about this new age coming, an age of unparalleled evil and depravity that could only be described afterwards as the Age of Darkness.Setzer Gabbiani posted:I wanna assume that it isn't the sword, but SK himself that has the power to rip into realms. They've shown him eating Behelit's a few times, and when him and Guts were in the cave fighting Slan, he jammed his sword into his mouth and when he pulled it out, it was supercharged and started ripping dimensions and stuff. I'd think that he can absorb them somehow? It really hasn't been touched other than that though It's explained how that works, if you may recall. When he ate the behelits, it melted them down somehow in his stomach (not sure how that works). Behelits are the most powerful magical object in the world, as the Witch mentioned, since they're the only things capable of guiding fate itself and connect the worlds deeply. So what the Skull Knight is doing is wielding the power of the God Hand against them.
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Schubalts posted:She did. She urged Guts to run her through with the sword(crazy bitch), and the blade actually hurt her. It wasn't actually her getting hurt, though, but rather a demonic incarnation she made of her power within the hellscape. It wasn't literally her, and I assume it'd be an entire different ballgame. Let's not forget the last time Guts tried to actually attack a member of the God Hand without interference (his brand started gushing blood like crazy, he nearly passed out, and when he swung the blood, Femto just knocked it away with a glance. Then again, Guts has gotten a lot stronger since then, and the Dragonslayer has feasted on a hell of a lot more demons/ Apostles/ Spirits since then...)
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Captain Controversy posted:If you guys are talking about the Count and Rosine's little insect kids: I don't recall rape involving them. Don't you remember the Bug-Elves using their "ADULT ATTACK!" and raping to death another Bug-Elf with its stinger, to Puck/ that girl's "OH GOD WHAT  "
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The Bow posted:Holy gently caress! You're quite gullible, I think.
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obi_ant posted:Any reason for it being so slow? You notice the intense detail he puts into each chapter? That.
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Phil_asdf posted:Even though dark horse owns the rights to the english versions, if they haven't published all the later volumes is it still considered illegal to download those? Technically, yes, since they're the license holders. Anime in general is illegal to download for free unless it's made public domain. However, the forum (and the Japanese industry themselves) allow release of unreleased-in-the-west material.
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And, unsurprisingly, the chapter ends on a full page of Griffith. Sigh. COME ON. At least we get some Guts and gang coverage thrown in there.
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Phil_asdf posted:Holy gently caress, just write it in novel form so we can read WHAT THE gently caress HAPPENS. He's in his 40s now, I think?
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A HUGE FUCKIN BLUNT posted:I started reading Berserk up till around when they meet the likely 10000 year old witch who looked 12, and got really bored because Guts and his amazing crew was stupid and loving boring and none of the characters besides Guts and Helen Keller were interesting at all, did it pick up or did it keep focusing on those lameasses? Actually said witch is actually 12 and you stopped before one of the best parts in the manga, ahaha. Guts fighting about a few hundred trolls and ogres, an incarnation of Slann, getting a certain tool that allows him to fight like as much of a monster as the Apostles are, and goes up against a ton of awesome poo poo. You need to look at the gang as what it REALLY is: an excuse for Guts to give Caska to someone and go rage kill on everything. Plus they get a lot cooler once they prove to not actually be worthless.
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A HUGE FUCKIN BLUNT posted:when one was suitable. Not... really with what Guts goes up against in these arcs.
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Sindai posted:Now that would be hilarious. It's going to happen. They foreshadowed it pretty heavy with ol' Skull Knight going "WHAT YOU WANT MIGHT NOT BE WHAT SHE WANTS :O" which basically goes to "Hey, she's going to go back to Griffith since she still feels connected to him/ like she needs him and crap (probably coupled with her unconscious reaction to him posessing her dead baby or something)", she'll go back to him, Guts won't know what the hell to do anymore, then the "Dark Age" is going to begin which will give Guts reason to leave "paradise" (the land of Elves) to embrace the violence once again.
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Geop posted:I seriously doubt she'd go to Griffith's side. He killed EVERYONE they knew in the Band of the Hawk; that'd stick, I'm sure. Plus, I'm sure Griffith will make a grab at or strike the Elf home. ... the guy tried to rape even after the whole crippling (before he summoned the God Hand), which was "the thing" that apparently inspired her to stay with Griffith.
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Gvaz posted:I'm pretty sure when the egg-dude granted him a new body that he got his penis back. That is, if it was cut off, although with the torturer thing going on I'm pretty sure it was the first thing to get cut off. Actually, I dunno if that's true, because the "other reality" Griffith witnessed before the Eclipse, the alternative to his dream of conquest, was him living with Casca, still crippled, but with kids, just a peaceful life in a town with Caska. Soooo that'd imply otherwise.
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Cowboy posted:A minor fix. I'm just freakin happy that were getting a chapter on the 24th. And I quote Slann "This [eg, the swamp that the Trolls and other horrors from the Spirit World were coming out from] is only the beginning, the world will be consumed in a Dark Age" and other wonderous things saying how the world is going to get raped by the God Hand. We don't know how, other then that the Apostles have been doing stuff and there's been more monsters then there've been before, and all of a sudden Griffith reincarnates right before Slann goes out of her way to tell us how hosed everything is. Coincidence? Doubtful.
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Sydnesider posted:I thought Alucard could kill faster than just 13 people per hour. Well now it's just a matter of waiting for the rest of the OVAs to come out... I think even Alucard would have trouble taking on millions of people at once, especially since he probably was less powerful as well. This ending was good, though it reeks of a need for a sequel, since now it leaves Alucard and Seras around to... grin a lot and scare the human staff for all eternity with occasional "boos" through walls.
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Popo posted:It seems like it's a pretty big deal right now as it is. Right in front of all his potential countrymen, the Pope and his meal ticket/bride to be he is showing that his main force is comprised of horrible, gribbly monsters from the depths of hell. Let's face it, even with the cruel truth of the Apostles showing (the fact that they're horrific monsters), I don't think it's going to change anything. After all, Griffith is becoming a Saint, fate and causality are moving to create him as this divine hero. Free will/ the ability to even see what they are probably doesn't matter at this point, seeing as how it's gotten to where EVERYONE is having these visions in their dreams.
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tsob posted:I don't mind the small size of most manga, but Berserk could really use something more akin to western comics' trade paper backs and if there's any chance at all that such a thing exists, or will at some point in the future I just want to know now and save my monies. It's in volume format, yes. So far there's 33 volumes of material, about 22(?) of which are out in America right now.
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Dancing Ferret posted:You can cheat You could also get probated for encouraging people to not buy the manga volumes for early chapters that are very readily buyable! (hint: dont do that)
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Jimmybob posted:What was the point of becoming a massive monstrous abomination if you're completely ineffective against, well, everything? Except... this isn't him even attacking. these are basically just residue left from him walking. We haven't exactly seen Ganishka attacking with his giant rear end body.
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Jimmybob posted:I'm hoping that's what the loud noise near the end was, him getting his rear end in gear. But I don't follow the raw very well due to language difficulty, so I guess I'll find out in the future. I don't think he can even perceive reality really anymore.
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Like sheep to the slaughter. "MONSTERS ARENT SO BAD IF THEYRE WITH THE HAWK!" And after all this crap, they're going to be pretty hungry for flesh, I'm sure.
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OG17 posted:It's Griffith, come on. Yeah, it's not unrealistic for his abilities. But as always, eventually the fabric of the fantasy will fall sometime, and the horrors will begin; then the people will realize what they've got them messed up in.
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