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What the consensus on follow-up phone calls? I've sent out a few resumes/samples and am starting to get antsy (it's been a week for some, two weeks for others). The internet opinion varies from "Do it" to "It depends" to "If they haven't called you they hate you so don't bother". These opinions don't seem to come from any particular field though, kinda all over. So what does the creative industry think? I'm a designer, packaging primarily. 10+ years experience. I know it's tough all over so should I assume they're overwhelmed and it's taking time? Should I assume they don't like me? If I call does it show enthusiasm or does it smack of desperation?
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May 4, 2010 19:40
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What's dating? I kid - yeah, that's been about what I've been hearing. Now, I've sent samples and such to nameless email accounts and/or through websites. Do I just call up the main number and try to get an HR rep? I have no real contact names as of yet, although I know people at all these places who I've asked to investigate for me. Is that a good idea? Christ it's been awhile since I've done this poo poo!
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May 4, 2010 20:25
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qirex posted:Question: how do you guys deal with stuff you can't post in your portfolio? I left after 8 years at a bank and the bulk of my work I did there is way deep under NDA for at least a couple more years. I've tried redacting some of it but it ends up looking like one of those stupid CIA things where only the page number is still visible. I have stuff to show in person or by screen share but most of my work on my website is 10+ years old now. Ideas? NDA because of content or the design aesthetic as a whole? If it's the former, you could always, instead of redacting, just put in Lorem Ipsum type and explain it in person. If it's the latter, it;s a funny sticking point. Lots of places will say you can't use that stuff, per NDA's, to promote yourself. A lawyer friend of mine told me years ago, that there's some weird law that prevents previous employers from hindering one form getting work. It's some old law that covers, if memory serves, "artisans, craftsmen, and candle-makers". I'm no lawyer so don't hold me to that. In my own experience, which is predominantly branding and packaging, I do this: If it's a package that made it to shelf, meaning it's in stores and available to the general public, I'm using it everywhere because it's in the public eye. A lot of stuff starts out as concepts and never really make it to shelf/through testing/etc. Those are owned by the client - not even the design firm whom I contracting with or employed by. So that stuff I keep off the web because it's proprietary. I don't need Proctor & Gamble's legal hordes breathing down my neck. BUT some of that concept work is awesome. So I show it in physical form or PDF to a direct person.
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Nov 10, 2016 15:10
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Baronash posted:Are there good resources for self-teaching graphic design, or any relatively inexpensive online courses on the subject? I'm currently working my way through a degree in outdoor education, and one of the more interesting components of that field is interpretive design, the guys who put together all those informational signs you see at a state park or nature center (Example). Normally, you would get a park interpreter in a room with a graphic designer, and together they would hash out a sign that presents the information in a visually interesting way. I'd like to be able to do both parts of the job. Long story short: yes, it's not going to be possible. I mean, maybe you could buy some books off amazon and visit design-themed websites (check the resource thread) but you're going to need someone to work with you, teach you the in's and outs, and certainly critique. Especially if, as you say, you don't have an eye for design. That's, sadly, not really something that can be totally taught. You can teach me proper holds and stances and releases for how to shoot a free-throw but I ain't going to make it into the NBA. You can certainly develop but you'd need some serious coaching, otherwise you'll end up as some designer's client who famously says "I'll know it when I see it". I dunno - maybe a community college course or two? Just an intro to design? See if you like it. DOn't throw money at something you'll end up not liking/understanding/etc in the hopes that you'll eventually catch on.
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Jan 13, 2017 19:34
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I'm sorry to be harsh. There may be online courses but those require a lot of commitment hours and frankly, form those I've known who've taken them, don't seem to be all that helpful. Just getting an email or a video with no real feedback. But maybe read a book and visit sites like I said. Look at "what you like" and kinda go from there? Also, when you get a job and need way-finding and other design help call me.
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Jan 14, 2017 15:32
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Find someone else so you can pass your class, ASAP. Finding clients - even free ones - is hard (trust me, ugh was 2016 a lovely year). BUT don't give up on your old vocal school. Keep at them! Use what you do for them (eventually) as another piece in your portfolio. It's super-good experience (you're already getting some from them on the business side - this is a business after all). Real world work is always better than class assignments when it comes to portfolios, not to mention the experience of doing another site and working with a difficult client. That's stuff they can't teach in a classroom.
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Jan 19, 2017 16:46
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Nessa posted:
Just gonna echo the poster above me. Go with "lame". Just say "Creative" - that covers all those bases. Yes, you'l be face-to-face when handing out a card so you can explain what you do. Don't be cute. You're a design professional - emphasis on PROFESSIONAL. Leave the cutesy crap to the folks on easy and fiverr who are undermining the industry and making creativity look like a hobby or parlor trick. Your card, it should be noted, is your very first piece of your portfolio. It's your entry and should show the breath of your design abilities (as much s a card can). So don't skimp/be funny/etc.
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Jan 28, 2017 17:07
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kedo posted:To be completely honest, without any sort of interactive design experience/chops, you're going to have a tough time finding a job because there are simply far, far fewer positions that are solely print or branding these days. Depending on where you live (and that's not even a big issue) the above quote is garbage. Get into packaging.
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Apr 28, 2017 23:35
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TheHan posted:I tend to go for positions at marketing agencies, designer positions that list 1-3 years experience. I figure places like that would probably have more print/branding jobs come in, but I'm pretty adept at web design, though I've only ever done two websites for one client (One I just did the graphics, and the other I did the graphics and code but they decided to shift gears out of nowhere and the second site was never finished). Are projects done or completed purely for my own amusement considered "School" projects? Kinda. You should focus on a project that is a problem and then solve it. Meaning, don't just make a poster for a band you like. Find something that's "wrong" and work through the design process to fix it.
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Apr 29, 2017 15:41
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Nessa posted:They also asked me my hourly rate. This is a contract position, so I would like to prepare some questions for my second interview. Another question - if it's contracted and at an hourly rate, ask if they take out taxes or not. Some places will handle that for you, some pay you the gross amount and you have to do the tax stuff on your own. Assuming, of course, Canada works similarly to the US.
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Sep 28, 2017 14:40
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Check out the site glassdoor.com
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Nov 3, 2017 17:04
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Well, it sounds like "junior designer" or "junior web specialist". Or just graphic designer/web designer. But stay away from "Senior" and all the directors (art, creative, etc).
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Nov 3, 2017 19:26
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Killer_B posted:What are the better cities/areas in the country for getting creative positions, even production artist-related positions, outside of Chicago/NY/California? Minneapolis, Atlanta, Cincinnati. There's big CPG places in those cities so there's a bunch of design firms as well. I'm only speaking from a packaging perspective. Lower cost of living, too.
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