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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
The last king was "Lorenzo the kind" apparently, always smiling, had portraits of himself surrounded by kids. There is a certain implication in that bit of the book but i might be reading too much into the way Vimes describes him.

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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I'm almost positive he's said he would never do a vetenari book, something about how he's so much more interesting when you can't read what he's thinking.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Is it all in one part on Sunday or is it two parts like the other ones? If there's a second part on Monday I won't be able to watch it.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I would say the smugface Moist Von Lipwig in golden suit one is the only that looks "wrong" to me. I really like the first picture for some reason.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Well I don't need to worry about missing the last half of Going Postal because I completely forgot the first part was on today.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Men at Arms and Thud are the last two for the Discworld Cup, I was expecting Night Watch in the final and wasn't suprised the Watch books were the winners nearly all the time.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Nanny Oggs Maids of Honour sound pretty nice though unfortunately they tend to end up as tarts. I'm always tempted to make Wow-Wow sauce but I dont make much food that I could put it on so it seems pointless.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I think Vimes might die in Snuff, when Terry announced that as the new Watch book he also said "now remember Snuff has two meanings". First is that powder poo poo you snort and the second is too snuff it or die. Someone is going to die, probably an established character and we will cry.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Yeah that's what I was driving at, also he's a man who enjoys Pork Scratching cookies, smokes like a chimney and used to have a heavy drinking problem. He's supposed to be like 50 at this point right?

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Got I Shall Wear Midnight today, going to crack it open when I go to bed and probably read it through. I always end up doing that with Pratchett books.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Yeah I went to bed at about 1 and had it finished by like 5/6, it might be "new book gleam" talking but I think it might be my second or third favourite after Nightwatch and Fifth Elephant.
Bit of discussion with the other guy who read it. This is a spoiler concerning a cameo that I wouldn't have liked to know about beforehand.
Did you get as excited as I did when Smith showed up? I read Equal Rites a couple months and it was really nice for that to get cleared up.
Also I didn't like the massive cocktease of Vimes showing up in a witch book but then not meeting Granny


This is definitely his darkest book I think, before this he mostly did that sort of stuff through implications or offhand comments in the Witch and Watch books. This deals with that stuff straight on, maybe he was trying to hammer it home to the people who can't get over the "young adult" label or something.
This is just a part of a conversation from the middle of the book, nothing to with the main plot or anything but I think it gets across what I mean about not just implying stuff anymore.
"My dad beat me up, didn't he?" said Amber in a matt-of-fact voice as they walked towards the grey towers. "Did my baby die?"
"Yes"
"Oh" said Amber in the same flat voice.
"Yes" said Tiffany. "I'm sorry"


I loved this book pretty much, can't wait to get through all the other Pratchett books so I can read this one again with the other Tiffany books fresh in my mind.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Nah the second chapters dark isn't it? The first chapter is the fair with the giant made of chalk on the hill and is basically a load of innuendos. Then the second chapter is like a sucker punch to the side of the face.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
He actually had a pretty interesting interview in the latest SFX magazine concerning the future of the Discworld, also answered a few other questions about the timeline and how he chooses which characters to write about.

He says "being sensible, I don't think more than 30 years has gone past" in the timeline since Colour of Magic.

He also says that he's told his daughter "it's there if you want it" concerning writing Discworld stuff. "apart from her I don't see other authors writing my characters... certainly while I'm alive I wouldn't let anyone else write Discworld. When I'm dead - well, that's up to my exectutors".

I could type out some of the other stuff if you're interested, unless you've all already read this on some Terry fansite and already know this stuff?

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Well he's writing the book that's going to be out in 2012 now so that's at least two books. If he is planning on any sort of actual finale rather than just writing the books he wants to write (which I doubt) then he probably considers I Shall Wear Midnight as a goodbye to the witches.

I'd rather he just carried on regardless and finished when he felt he couldn't do any more, most of his books would have worked fine if they'd been the last books. We don't have to check in with every character and see their fates or have some galactic threat for the last book, although Death having a conversation with the shade of A'tuin would be an interesting last page, especially if it was the first thing to laugh at one of Death's jokes.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
If the next one Sky does is going to be Sourcery then why would you think it was going to be good? It's going to have David Jason as Rincewind presumably.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Soul Music was definitely the hump in my Terry Pratchett readthrough, started reading them back in October after the last book came out until I got to Soul Music. Couldn't find it for ages and then when I found it just after Christmas couldn't muster up the enthusiasm to read it because I remember it being terrible and it really isn't that bad. Still it slowed me down, after I finished it I read Interesting Times, Maskerade and Feet of Clay in about a week and I'm going to start Hogfater later, I love rediscovering favourite parts you had completely forgotten about.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Carrot maybe? Seems like ages since we had any watch action in Anhk Morpork that wasn't all about the new recruit of the book. Would be good to have the Men at Arms/Feet of Clay members doing their thing in AM while Vimes is off on his own. Vimes is going to die isn't he? :ohdear:

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Maybe I'm not remembering it but hasn't there not been any of the Carrot/Angua stuff since Feet of Clay?

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Oh yeah I have no idea how I forgot all that Gavin/Carrot/Angua stuff, Fifth Elephant is my second favourite Watch book. That's still a pretty long time though, not that we need more of it but if he decided to do some more for what might be the last Watch book I wouldn't hate it.

They're all aligned because they're all the Watch but yeah Angua gets along with Vimes because she's a really cynical bastard just like him. Also I liked the girls night out stuff with the vampire recruit and Cheery in Thud.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Or Tony Robinson when he was Baldrick in Going Fourth.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
He plays Oblivion on that awesome bastard of a computer, I remember an article he wrote in SFX about all the really obscure mods people had made that expanded on minute stuff and how cool that was. I like the idea that Terry Pratchett has downloaded a mod that lets you be a farmer or something in Oblivion or that he has been disgusted by all the porn mods available.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
He looks pretty much the same there as he does on the cover of Thud doesn't he, the artist they have now pretty much draws him as Clint Eastwood. I like how once we've read it all the chickens, boat, weird gremlin on his shoulder and tidal wave behind him will all make sense.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Vimes is definitely ready for retirement, since he was late 30s at least in Guards Guards. Also Pratchett's been mentioning his heart hurting after long runs and other stuff like that in his last couple Watch books so he could be due a heart attack (I think I've posted this in this thread multiple times but I'm pretty sure Sam Vimes is going to die).

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Tony Robinson did the abridged ones.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
That line might have been supposed to connect to Carpe Juggulum since that has an Omnian priest as one of the main characters. Makes more sense than Wee Free Men since as you say I don't think that has anything that's brought up in Small Gods.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I'm rereading the entire series in published order, I started when I Shall Wear Midnight came out but stalled at Soul Music for some time (I couldn't find it and didn't remember liking it that much). So Eric is somewhat fresh in my mind, it's ok but it's only 200 pages so it takes about an hour and a bit to read which seems pretty crazy. I'm just nearing the end of Thief of Time now so I'm in the non stop awesome story block already and it's just going to keep getting better. I might try to time it so that I finish ISWM again just in time for Snuff.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I liked Moving Pictures alot more after I took film classes and got more of the references. I expect it's the same with Soul Music and knowing alot about that stuff.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
I honestly can't tell if you're taking the piss or not, I did film analysis at college but what I meant was watching old films and reading about the early days of Hollywood. Which I did in that course.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Best part of rereading the entire series in order without really being sure what the next book is? When you finish The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents and realise the next book is the loving Night Watch.

thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jun 22, 2011

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
It's weird how you remember details wrong in books, I could have sworn there was a part where Vimes and Ned Coates have a quiet moment and talk about how he's from the future and some other stuff. Unless I skipped a couple pages it was only 1 sentence and it was Coates thinking Vimes was from the past rather than the future.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
So apparently we're getting not one but TWO Discworld based bordgames this year, the one called Ankh Morpork with Vetenari going missing that's been posted here and one based on and called Guards Guards that I haven't seen any news about before I saw it mentioned in SFX. There are a few previews scattered around that give details on how it plays. http://thegaminggang.com/2011/03/guards-guards-a-discworld-playtest-report/

Thought some might be interested in that, we're also getting some new information on Snuff on the 13th.

thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Jul 10, 2011

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Glad he revealed that Drumknott is in so early because without him there was no way I was going to buy this book.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Yeah just read them in publishing order, dude may be wrong about Light Fantastic having a Mort reference though since as you say it was written after Light Fantastic.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Oh wow I had completely forgotten about that, it seems like there was a gap of 3 years between CoM and Light Fantastic but then he wrote Equal Rites and Mort in the next year so he probably had an idea of what he wanted to do with Death while he was writing Light Fantastic. He was putting out books at a good clip in those days, two every year between 87 and 93 is nuts.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Oh wow that's great timing, my readthrough of every Discworld book has been on hold because I can't find that exact book. Was going to go and buy it again.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
There's a competition to win a copy of Snuff two months before it comes out, it was going to be a Facebook thing but something got messed up, so you just email discworld@transworld-publishers.co.uk with your name and the answer to the question "What is the 25th Discworld novel?" and you get entered.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Uh it's a joke, you think he's terrified and upset and begging not to be retired out of the Watch and it's actually just that he really doesn't want to go on vacation, right? That's why they've gotten him a spade, as a joke.

I didn't notice anything different about it really, I've read Wee Free Men through to Wintersmith in the past week and nothing there seems drastically out of place to me.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005
Why are you putting stuff from books from the early 90s in spoilers? The villain in Making Money is the Vetinari groupie who dresses up like him, he and his family own all or most of the banks and have dicked it all up.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

Mister Roboto posted:

Pratchett has a daughter now, perhaps this was his way of exploring what it's like to imagine the rottenness of men your little girl will encounter as she grows up.

When you say "now" you mean "has had a daughter since before he was writing Discworld books, right?" since she's about 34 and he's probably come to terms with her having crappy boyfriends by now.

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thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

FactsAreUseless posted:

My problem with ISWM is that it starts building up to something that never really happens. That second chapter with the Rough Music is absolutely fantastic, but nothing else in the book ever really lives up to it.

But anyone who tries to claim Pratchett is losing it is instantly disproven by Nation. I don't even understand how you can have that argument without somebody going "but Nation" and then the argument ends.

I'd assume these people who are saying he's "losing it" are probably saying it started with UA and carried on with ISWM. Nation was 08 wasn't it? I loved ISWM and liked UA but the complaints started with UA.

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