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Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Looking for quality online sources on Jazz improvisation, chord structure, etc.

The more detailed the better; I'm an accomplished classical pianist, understand theory at the college level, and have a really good ear. I'm just at a loss for how to expand outside of working with blues/pentatonics.

I realize most of what needs to be learned can also be learned through listening to audio recordings; so any influential albums/tunes/artists I can rip off from would also be helpful.

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Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Looking for advice of turning an admittedly purist / square / nerd classical pianist of 6+ years into someone with a solid enough foundation to do improv, jam sessions, jazz solos etc.


I'm already a big ben folds fan and know all of the catalogue that I want to learn.

Plus a handful of other tunes.

I can very easily look at chords/guitar tab and get a radio song performable in >5 minutes.

I'm specifically seeking advice on jazz improv / soloing that extends beyond "learn your pentatonics/blues scales and play them up and down"

edit: Voicing chords interestingly, and making sense of "sustained" chords would also be helpful.

Anyone got a link?

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



That 600 dollar P85 is looking so good...


Gotta get to a music store first and try one out

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



I find some of the English Suites especially to be 10x more manageable than the two-part inventions.

Or the 'Little' Preludes and Fugues, don't forget about those. The C minor one is really easy and rocks face

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Blog Free or Die posted:

Only play Bach, and pretend you're Glenn Gould :v:

suitcase of drugs optional, but recommended

I knew Gould was an autistic, but a drug addict too?

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



I've been playing forever but I am only one year into my career as a private lesson instructor.


I have three students, two are very normal in progress, but one child has an incredible natural talent for the instrument.


I started him on the Alfred Library - simply because that's what I learned out of in grade school. We are progressing nicely and I plan on completing the entire beginner series with him (in one year we made it through 2.5/8 books).


What classical pieces are good to start at the beginner level? I gave him the Clementi Sonatina that everybody knows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvv0WKsFt3M .


What Bach should we start with? The Little Preludes and Fugues? What other resources besides the Alfred series should I be incorporating? Is it time to start Hanon yet?

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Blog Free or Die posted:

Bach's French Suites might be a good idea. Most of the pieces are at or slightly above the difficulty of the 2 part inventions.

The G Major is probably the best known, and is pretty manageable. Except the gigue; that one's kind've a bitch to get up to speed. No need to go with the entire suite, though.

I always thought the E Major one was the easiest one?


(aren't I classy for someone with a BRCT? :unsmith: )


edit: Specifically the Allemande (1st mvmt) and Polonaise from the E Major one

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Cast_No_Shadow posted:

Most of the popular classical pieces are popular because they were easy enough for your average joe to be able to play them in their front room (as well as being good).

Beethoven's Fur Elise & Moonlight Sonata Mvt 1
Motzart's Rondo Alla Turca
Haydn's La Roxolane
Chopin's Raindrop
etc.

Probably all in the Grade 3-5 range.

Bach also has somewhere around 8 billion pieces ranging from easy to bloody hard if you want something more baroque.

[Edit] Actually if you're looking to "grow" and you have released a Piano album I'm guessing its less about technique and more about musicality? Maybe look into some Chopin stuff, Preldues in E Minor and A Major are both easy to press all the right notes but hard to make sound just right but Chopin is popular enough for you to have hundreds of version to listen to, from the amateur to the professional to get different ideas?



What are some Chopin Prelude suggestions for harder ones to move up to if I've finished:

-D Flat

-C Minor

-A Major

-E Minor

?

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Annies Boobs posted:

If you're wanting some Chopin play his easy nocturnes!!!

Which are the easy nocturnes? I also have access to the Polonaises. :buddy:

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



quote:

Major Sixth - My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean

You can also use the Xylophone NBC jingle for this one!

("En, Bee, Cee!")

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



Ron Don Volante posted:

I took like 10 years of piano lessons as a kid and just recently have gotten back into regular playing. Not having a piano teacher anymore means that I'm kinda at a loss for music to play. I'm looking for classical music in the intermediate range of difficulty--I like Satie, Debussy, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, pretty much anything except maybe not so much Bach. Does anyone have recommendations on what to play or any good compilations of sheet music?

Lately I've just been playing well-known stuff like Chopin's Raindrop prelude, Debussy arabesque, Lizst's Liebestraum etc but I'm running out of ideas.

Check out my posts from last page, we are in the same boat. I could only play raindrop on jan 1st and these guys helped me out tons on the last page.

Someone recommended the posthumous Chopin C# Nocturne and its been wonderful.

I also picked up the C Minor prelude from well tempered clavier, which has not been too hard after being away for years.

Going to start work on Debussys Children Corner suite soon!

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



I love Chopin but I really can't stand Fantasie Impromptu. It's so "wanky", as the electric guitarist would say.

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



OneSizeFitsAll posted:

How about Solfeggietto, by C.P.E. Bach?

This piece is cool but it is on the easier side of the whole repertoire. If you can play Mozkowski, here's a slightly harder piece in the same vein as Solfeggietto:

Here's Richter playing it properly, and incredibly fast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GXHjxvSi24

Here's an autistic savant who was probably the greatest pianist of our time flipping it the gently caress on it's head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg0aQxsKlU


It's the C-Minor prelude from Book I Well-Tempered Clavier. It's kind of like Solfiegietto with both hands simultaneous.


(I'm performing it tomorrow oh god oh god oh god)

(I haven't performed since 2004)

(Maybe I'll make you all a video in an hour or so)

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



The D minor one (no. 2?) is usually considered the easiest.

The development/"golden section" of C Major gets rougher than anything in that one IMO.

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



New semester starting soon.

I want to play Schumann or Schubert, any suggestions?

I have done Schumann Album for the Young and Papillons, Op. 2. Never played Schubert.

Any must play Schubert piano piece suggestions that are a little easier than Wanderer Fantasy?

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



404notfound posted:

I took three years of piano lessons way, way back in high school, have been playing a tiny bit of guitar since then, and on a whim just picked up an 88-key weighted keyboard. My piano lessons were very traditional, memorizing a bunch of baroque, classical, and romantic pieces, but I've been entirely self-taught with guitar. For some reason, it wasn't until I started learning guitar that I realized that a lot of songs can mostly be broken down into a few basic chord progressions (C-G-Am-F will get you through half of the music on the radio), and now I'd like to translate that knowledge and experience back to piano so I can play more contemporary stuff.

I know the general shapes of different chords on the guitar (major, minor, 7, sus4, etc.), but what's a good place to see the piano chord shapes all laid out? And how do I know which inversions to use? My old piano books are all stashed away in my parents' home, unfortunately. And I suppose I need some practice playing melodies with the right hand. Overall, though, I'm surprised how much came right back to me after eight years. Can still sight read, albeit rather slowly, and I ran through all the major scales without any real trouble. So far I've just reprinted some of the sheet music I saved over the years (mostly songs from anime or video games--it was high school, okay? :blush:) and have been running through some of them.

You might want to find a Left-Hand Jazz Voicings book. Although, a lot of that stuff will be way fancier than what you'd use to play radio music.

Really, if you remember the fundamentals, you can make your own smooth voicings for pop songs,

ie: C-E-G = E-G-C = G-C-E

If you got that down, just sit with a pencil and figure out smooth chords...

ie: D major -> G major isn't that bad, because I can play D-F#-A, and then move the top two notes to D-G-B

If you can do stuff like that second example on your own, you probably don't really need a new book.

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



KidDynamite posted:

I'm also an old child piano player that gave up when High School sports took over. Coming up on college graduation and I'd like to keep having homework so I'm looking to get back into the piano game. I'm thinking about a Korg Kronos X 88 key as a graduation present to myself. Anyone have opinions on it? I'm definitely going for a keyboard because I know I'm going to be moving around a bit within the next few years.

I have been an acoustic-only snob for years and my casio Px-88 with a roland kc-550 is ridiculously awesome.

I have no specific recommendations but try whatever you want before you buy. Even if you're gonna order it online go to a store and try it.

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



my favorite part of the the last hour of http://www.twitch.tv/pianoimproman :

"I auditioned with this piece when I was 14"

*plays the first 8 measures of Appasionatta, movement 3*

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



uXs posted:

Just a random piece of information: my piano teacher says she practices like 80% of the time with a metronome. I almost never use a metronome, I probably should start using one way, way more, and knowing she uses one that much herself seems like the motivation I need.

To try to put some more weight behind this: this tip doesn't come from some random person, my teacher is very, very good. As in winning a ton of national and multiple international competitions good.

TL;DR: practice with a metronome, you jerks!

Here's a good piano teacher question:

When do you give a student a metronome?

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



I'm a classical nerd who can read sheet music pretty decently.

I have a real book, but I'd much rather get a collection of Jazz Standards that are arranged // written out in full sheet music as opposed to the Real Book style - at least until I get good at it.

Like this, but a whole book - http://bit.ly/2oIZkjA


Anyone have a recommendation? I've been searching Amazon, but if someone already has one they really like and can fill me in that'd be awesome.

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Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



IT BURNS posted:

I composed a piece! Please watch it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fEsqKfi6ZA

Two years ago, I wrote this piece for speaking pianist (the performer has to play and talk at the same time) for a friend who started a commissioning project called #45miniatures, call for composers (caveat: I’m not a real composer) to write short works based on Trump’s Twitter feed. The one word that I always associated with Trump was his trademark insult “SAD!”, so I cobbled together a series of tweets and statements on the campaign trail that focused on this word in various ways. The result, I hope, is a comedic montage of short episodes (one section is a little serious) that highlights the inanity of his statements, with musical inspiration taken from what one might hear in an Atlantic City Casino. The full text is below and in the description box in the video.

“SAD!” for speaking pianist will receive its world premiere in the coming weeks (I have a concert in NOLA next week that I might play it on).

******

“Wow! Lyin' Ted Cruz really went wacko today...Can't function under pressure. Not very presidential. SAD!"

"The failing New York Times does not mention the new CNN poll that has me leading Iowa by a MASSIVE thirteen points. I am at 33%. Maggie Habermann, SAD!"

"Jeb is a WASTE...Jeb is a MESS...The weakest person on this stage is Jeb Bush!"

"Lightweight Jeb is spending a fortune against me...in South Carolina...false advertising! Desperate and SAD!"

“BOYCOTT APPLE!”

"Am in Bedminster for meetings today on Virginia and all that we have done and are doing to make it better, but Charlottesville - SAD!"

"SAD to see...the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson. Who's next? So foolish."

"Condolences to the family of the young woman killed today, and best regards to all those injured in Charlottesville. So SAD!"

"Because of me, the Republican Party has taken in millions of new voters...if they are not careful, they will all leave, SAD!"

"Just watched Brian Williams on Today Show. Very SAD! Brian should get on with a new life...stop apologizing! Very SAD!"

"Hillary LIED at the debate last night...SAD!"

"Whoopi Goldberg is terrible...Very SAD!"

"Irrelevant Glen Beck...his failing show...very few listeners. SAD!"

"The biased media...SAD!"

"Get that baby out of here...you know what? Some people just don't get it."

I've read about Trump Derangement Syndrome before but I've never actually seen it in the wild. On SA of all places!

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