Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Noktorn posted:

I'm tight with Funeral Grave, they're all cool guys.

Cool, can you ask him why they left barbarian wrath?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Noktorn posted:

Don't quote me on this, because it was a while ago that we talked about it, but I think it comes down to BW just being sort of unprofessional. Heavily delaying releases, not being communicative, poo poo like that. I could be wrong but that's how I remember it.

I guess that can happen when it is basically just one guy running the label in his free time.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Hey, guess what's coming soon.

It's only the best black metal album of 2010.

Countess - Burning Scripture

Samples here: http://www.thebasar.org/MP3/Chariots_Of_Thunder.mp3 and here http://www.thebasar.org/MP3/History_Not_Forgotten.mp3

It will be awesome.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Morbid Florist posted:

boy they love darkthrone huh

Orlok has always been influenced by NWOBHM and old traditional metal, if it is that sort of rocking sound you're referring to. I think it started to really shine through in the song writing around 97 and it really came to the forefront around 2001. It is nothing new certainly.

Otherwise I don't really see that many similarities with darkthrone.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
People can experiment all they want with their music, they just shouldn't expect people to like it unless they're actually good.

Some people seem to think that bands are good simply because they experiment with adding new stuff. For the vast majority of metal bands different doesn't equal better, but it seems to be legitimate viewpoint for some people.

It's not really enough to just throw violins or trumpets or trivial middle eastern stuff at your metal, you have to actually incorporate it into your music and make it sound like it belongs and that is a very difficult thing to do.

Unfortunately the success of bands like Nile means that people get the idea that a superficial coating of <culture> is enough to sell lots of records.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

EvilMoJoJoJo posted:

Nice bit of bonus homophobia there in the Chuck Schuldiner bit... oh. Anus.com. Say no more.


That Schuldiner thing only really makes sense if you know the full extent of SR Prozaks hatred towards Chuck Schuldiner.

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/metal/chuck_schuldiner/

He is 100% sure that chuck died of AIDS related pneumonia and if I remember correctly he even sent some letters to chucks sister stating this.

It is kinda funny, as a sort of counterweight to the extreme worship of Schuldiner on other parts of the internet.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

lol_internet posted:

I hear black metal fans namedrop Anus.com on the internet all the time but I never really known much about what it's about or why it relates to black metal. I know it's some kind of "Nihilist Underground", whatever that means, but are they an actual published zine or just a website where pretentious metal fans write about how much they love Nietzche? Enlighten me, metal goons!

Its just a website that happens to have a bunch of reviews written by someone who takes himself very seriously and probably a bit mental. There is other stuff to the site as well, but it's not really as interesting as the metal reviews.

Generally speaking, when it comes to death metal, SR prozak knows what he's talking about and all his wordy reviews almost makes sense.

Any other genre though and you're asking for trouble. Just go and look at some of the reviews.

There's also a forum full of idiots who happen to take everything SR prozak says as the very literal truth.

It is not anything special really, it just has a reputation in some circles. I like to read the reviews there occasionally, but for the most part you dont even need to read them to know if prozak likes the album. You can just look at the length of the review, since a long rambling review means that he likes the album and a short review in a tiny text box is a pretty good indicator that he hates it.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Kaiho posted:

re: ANUS - people saying that their reviews are good reads need to check their wank-o-meter because they are, by and large, impenetrable and pretentious bullshit masquerading as English-language sentences. I'm not disputing the site's influence on the presence of metal on the internet, I'm just saying they don't do reviews (or politics for that matter) well at all.

It's not so much that the reviews are good (because they aren't, really, unless you like reading ridiculously wordy stuff with no punctuation) but because generally speaking prozak only reviews black and death metal bands that are actually good. Death metal especially he really is mostly on the money, so it's not so much what he writes that you look for but rather that he writes in the first place. He can be a little more iffy on black metal, like his almost creepy fanboy stalker obsession with Averse Sefia.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

QPZIL posted:

I don't see this comparison at allllll...

They're both poo poo, so they have that in common.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Captain Scandinaiva posted:

So I got The book of the heretic som time ago and I've been thinking about getting more Countess albums. So where do I go from here? I like The book of... quite a lot overall but not the entire album.
Also, Holocaust of the god believers doesn't seem to get much love around here but if I really enjoyed the title track would it be worth getting?

The only album that doesn't really sound like typical Countess is the first one and "Shining swords of hate" all the rest are more or less equal on the quality scales.

Shining swords is really good though, it just isn't the typical thing that Orlok normally does.


edit: that didn't really answer your question at all. Yes, you should get all the Countess albums. The official site has two songs from each album available though so you should be able to find out what you like fairly easily.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Kaiho posted:

I know Fenriz himself doesn't consider it a black metal release, but there's something about the Soulside Journey cover that I really like. Seeing it for the first time in LP size a while back, I had to stare. Something mystical and really weird about the planetscape in it.

I'd say there is a fairly good reason that he doesn't consider it a black metal album.


It is because it is death metal, and really quite good death metal at that.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Morbid Florist posted:

Nightside Eclipse was my first black CD unless the necro hordes are willing to admit Samael's Ceremony of Opposites is equally grim

Not sure how you define grimness, but it is definitely a black metal album.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
As far as I know, very few of the Barbarian Wrath releases actually sell out the 666 copies.

The ones that do (some Countess releases and both Megiddo full lengths that I know of) will get a second unnumbered pressing of 1000 copies. I think that Megiddo's The Devil and the Whore even got a third pressing of another 1000 because there was a lot of demand for it.

I dont think sales are really that high although it has been a while since I last talked with the esteemed Black Goat.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Well, apparently 600 copies sold is the breakeven point when he releases cds and then he just chose to do 666 instead for kicks.

Keep in mind that this is a label run out of the house of one guy and his wife in Bavaria. Or I guess I should say that the one guy runs the label and the wife runs her own label.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
There isn't really that much to "get" or explain about Countess. It is a distinctively 80s black metal sound mixed very liberally with various 80s heavy metal influences.

Orlok has had cover songs of everything ranging from Manilla Road to St Vitus to Manowar on his albums.

If you prefer your black metal to be trebly and blasty and full lizard shrieking and pretending that it came straight out of the norwegian 90s then no, you probably aren't going to like Countess.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
If you want layered and psychedelic you're probably better off looking at another genre.

In my opinion there's plenty of good black metal out there, but looking at your list I'm guessing you probably wouldn't agree with my suggestions.


edit: I just found a bunch of Moonblood stuff that I thought I had lost. Upon listening to it again it probably should have stayed lost.

MrBling fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Jun 25, 2010

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

ultraviolence123 posted:

Dude, you're completely out of your mind. Moonblood is excellent black metal of the highest quality.

I can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or not.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I'm sure that I've mentioned this band before, but I think everyone deserves a chance to get to know them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLf-Bh3mY8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmM0Sb0rcZI

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Ugh, hadn't noticed that embedding was disabled on that video. Seriously, who does that.

I can't quite decide if I like "The devil and the whore" more than "The atavism of evil".

Devil certainly has the more memorable songs but Atavism seems more solid overall.

I wish more black metal sounded like this.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Now, unlike Megiddo I'm pretty sure that we've never actually discussed Tearstained in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3vWlF_55yA

Tearstained is sort of like a Mercyful Fate crossed with Celtic Frost/Bathory.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

I'm sold! Where do I start?

Pretty much any of the first three albums will be good.

"Monumental in Its Sorrow", "There Is No Hope" and "Final Thoughts" form the so-called suicide trilogy. On the two following albums the guy pretty much ditched the King Diamond falsetto and just used lower vocals.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

thepitgoddess posted:

this is a little late, but yesssssssssssss. That album is amazing. When I first heard it, I thought it was a drum machine because no human could do that.

And, you know, the other components are awesome.

Amusingly enough, the drumming and the drum sound is what I can't stand about Absu. I get that Proscriptor is the band leader and so he gets to decide that his drums gets pushed all the way up front in the mix because he's really good at drumming at fast but it gets pretty obnoxious.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

HMorg posted:

Eh, what? You sure you didn't somehow end up in Norway?

Norway is more expensive than that.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
You can probably expect a new Countess album, he seems to write a couple of albums every year and then only releases one of them.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
So all of yall should listen to this http://sepulchre.bandcamp.com/album/sepulchre

It's the Megiddo guy doing full on crusty Venom worship.

He's apparently still also working on getting out the next Megiddo album "Holocaust Messiah" so that should be really good as well.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Fingers McGee posted:

Fantastic! I need to hear the rest of it.

I'm fairly sure that it is, unfortunately, all of it. So far at least.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Oh also, check out this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYREoNA05x0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FdIrzPdrGo

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Speaking of Countess, the BW guy posted the complete discography on their forum, for fun or something I guess.

Permafrost - Demo 1992
The Gospel Of The Horned One - CD 1992
The Wolves Awake - Demo 1994
The Return Of The Horned One - CD 1994
Promo 1995 - Demo 1995
Spherien - Demo 1995
The Wrath Of Satan's Whore - Demo 1995
Ad Maiorem Sathanae Gloriam - CD 1995
Burning Rome - Demo 1996
The Book Of The Heretic - CD 1996
Hell's Rock'n'Roll - MCD 1997
The Shining Swords Of Hate - CD 2000
The Revenge Of The Horned One Part I - CD 2001
The Revenge Of The Horned One Part II - CD 2002
From The Wells Of Chaos - Unreleased album 2002
Tales Of Blasphemy And Desecration - Unreleased album 2003
Black Forever - Unreleased album 2003
Ancient Lies And Battle Cries (Version I) - Unreleased album 2004
Heilig Vuur - CD 2004
Call Of The Ancient Pantheon - Unreleased album 2004
Spawn Of Steel - CD 2005
Sermon Of The Devil Preacher - Unreleased album 2005
Ancient Lies And Battle Cries (Version II) - Unreleased album 2005
Holocaust Of The God Believers - CD 2006
Ancient Lies And Battle Cries (Version III) - Unreleased album 2006
Blazing Flames Of War - CD 2007
Scorching Swords Of Sacrilege - Unreleased album 2008
Hail To Ireland - Unreleased album 2009
Burning Scripture - CD 2010
Het Vuur Der Goden - Unreleased album 2010
Forged By The Gods - Demo 2010
On Wings Of Defiance - CD 2011

so much unreleased material. :negative:

I do need buy that new album though.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Not sure how many of you guys are familiar with Dragged into Sunlight but they're sort of a black/death'y sludgey band. Someone described them as a black metal Eyehategod but since I'm not familiar with them I don't know how apt that comparison is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqY3zdNWrZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSbGdw6Rowk

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Figured I'd just drop a few bands that I've been listening to lately and which people might not know about.

Bewitched is a Chilean black metal band with some very strong Mercyful Fate influence. Not to be confused with the swedish black metal rockers also called Bewitched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWKxi_EvsQA

Then there's Crucifier who I guess is notable for being an actual good US black metal band. They've been around forever and somehow only managed a single full length album although that could partly be due to Cazz Grant spending the time with his main band Grand Belial's Key until they parted company.
Anyway, they're a more death'y black metal band but they're really good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuOwgsBLbNE

The last one for this time is a dutch band called Unlord. They aren't really anything special, they're just really really good at playing very fast black metal and somehow still having everything audible in the mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TUxnopz5uw

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

CNN Sports Ticker posted:

What's some good blackened thrash? I've been really digging Skeletonwitch and I think that's where they fall on the black metal spectrum.

It kind of depends on how blackened you want it to be and also if it has to have the same sort of polish that Skeletonwitch has.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Bubble Bathory posted:

Holy poo poo, this is great. This is exactly the kind of poo poo I've been craving lately because this


is really true, in my experience.

Any other suggestions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BlWN23Ycj0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzEW3itA4-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ3K0NjK-UM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HWWXvddCzE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv3MTrRK8K4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=700I8lkBn6A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K10QOFbeQI

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
If you need some terrifically uncomplicated black metal, then you're probably looking for Armagedda.


And also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv3MTrRK8K4

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
Pick a Ukrainian band and they are most likely nazis.

And if it is not immediately obvious you can play Six Degrees of Nazism with them and usually only need one link.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Rion.exe posted:

I've been going through my old Darkthrone albums a lot this week and I had forgotten how great some of the under-appreciated tracks are. Like The Claws of Time. That fuckin' riff, man. :aaa:

What under-appreciated goodies do you guys love?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWKxi_EvsQA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMwkYKasdWQ


Also, I dunno why I like these guys but I guess its just because it is very simple and honest no-frills 90s style black metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RBBzT_Ljtg

Nothing fancy there.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Morbid Florist posted:

I deleted two my little pony replies but yeah, talk about irony...

To be fair, you have shown quite a bit of poor taste in the past.


:v:

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

nomapple posted:

Sounds awesome! Thanks for the heads up. Dirty rock n roll meets black metal sounds right up my street.


http://sepulchre.bandcamp.com/

:smugdog:

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
I didn't know Moonspell were still alive. Bit odd that they're touring with Marduk and Inquisition.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
you know whats good?

its this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwUQuHppHYA

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo

Nova Bizzare posted:

Do you know of anything that sounds exactly like Pest (Ger) but is easier to get ahold of? I've been playing that youtube of Wikinger I think you posted all week.

Craft and Armagedda might be similar bands. Pest doesn't really do anything special but they do it very well.

Unlord is a bit different but still kinda in the same vein.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply