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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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ACEofsnett posted:

Did some four wheeling today in Union, Connecticut. Trail hasn't been used in at least a year, I had to drag some huge branches out of the way..


Found this old fender skirt sitting on an ancient foundation..


This pine tree was too deep in the water to hook the strap to, so I drove over it. I had to adjust my side mirror after.


All images my hosting. Truck is my 1991 Toyota hilux / pickup, 3vze, 3" lift, 31" tires, otherwise stock save for MSD ignition, 22re rear end, Buick driveshaft front bumper, intake and side exit cherry bomb.

you're literally miles away from where I live, up by the Southbridge airport. Wanna go wheeling sometime? I haven't found many public trails around here but my club has access to some pretty good private land in the area.

I rock a 91 Jeep Comanche, 3-4" lift, 33" rubber.

e: Geared Hub, I was going to say I would only accept a tow from an H1 or earlier, no H2s/H3s allowed, but then I remembered the time a friend of mine pulled my jeep out of a snowbank with... his 97 honda wagon :eng99:

I had decided to blow through a snowbank in a half plowed parking lot but then pussied out halfway through and ended up stuck. On the other hand I think I pulled his honda out of icy parking spaces (wheels not stuck, just no traction) at least 30 times that winter. Usual morning routine was "1. wake up and shower, leave for work 2. detour to pull Jack out of a parking space so he can get to work 3. drive to work"

kastein fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 29, 2011

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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ACEofsnett posted:

You're in Southbridge? No poo poo. I'm from Stafford, originally, but I just moved down to Naugatuck. I spend most of my time at My girl's house in Southbridge, right on Charlton street. Did you get any damage from the tornado?

drat, that's really close by. I'm a few blocks up on Pleasant St, my place is half a mile from the tornado path. I moved in the day it happened and didn't have home insurance yet, was making GBS threads bricks on my way home from work that day since it happened while I was driving down 20 and most of my friends were panicking and trying to find out if I was still alive.

I was just down in Stafford for the speedway swap meet, picked up some jerry cans and a 4.88 R&P for the ford 8.8 I'm building for another of my jeeps.

e: wait a sec, is her place the one over near mass ave / commercial drive with the jeep parked in the yard? I've seen that a couple times on my way out of town.

kastein fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Dec 29, 2011

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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ACEofsnett posted:

It's a 3VZE, so yes.


You mean that lifted red cherokee that I've seen around town a few times? Either way, no jeeps here.

My dad and I actually had a booth at the Stafford Fall swap meet this year, you may have seen us. Anyway, yeah, my girl's mom lives in Rosemeade, the tornado passed right over, ripped the place to shreds. We were a mile away, thinking nothing had happened. Come to find out, most of the area was just gone. We had to park and walk up the road toward your area, thinking the entire time most of her family was dead. Bad times for everyone.

nope, I've never seen this one driving, just parked in the yard.

Huh. I think I went by most of the booths but not sure. You probably saw me walk by with like 4 jerry cans tied to my belt and arms on the way out, I didn't plan my purchases well.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Oxford Comma posted:

Pop quiz, hotshots:

You have $3000 to spend on a 4x4 vehicle that will be used to take yourself and your sons from the Bay Area to the Sierra Nevadas once or twice a month. Your mechanical knowledge is enough to change spark plugs, oil filters, and such but you've never removed an engine or replaced a tranny (yet you're smart enough to read and understand a Haynes manual.)

What vehicle do you buy? A Cherokee, 4Runner, Disco I, Explorer, or something else?
That's where I was when I bought my first Cherokee. Pick whichever floats your boat, you'll learn if you have to.

Also, throw your haynes manuals out. They are pretty goddamn worthless, riddled with errors and bits of confusing info from the wrong model year split that will severely confuse you. For instance, the distributor cap firing order diagram in the XJ one (and probably all vehicles equipped with the 4.0) is wrong, they show the rotor going the wrong direction. They have been told this dozens of times and still haven't corrected it.

optikalus posted:

I went with the 4Runner only due to the fact that the rear top can be removed and it can be used like a truck.

what you really want is a Comanche. They are way cooler anyways :colbert:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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It's got an IRO lift... I'd skip it. But then again I thrash on my jeeps pretty hard.

Looks like it has a V8, that means it'll probably have 3.73 axle gears, a d44a rearend, d30 frontend, not sure on the transfer case, and whatever crummy chrysler auto trans they put in the 95 5.2L ZJ.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Oxford Comma posted:

Excuse the ignorance, but what's wrong with IRO lifts? A lot of people on Jeep Forums have them, and they seem to be regarded as alright.

Do Grand Cherokees come with a Dana 44 rear, whereas XJs don't?

Edit: Would something like this be a better choice than the Jeep I linked to, earlier?

If you web wheel, weekend wheel, or mallcrawl you will never, ever break the IRO lift, it'll be fine.

If you do anything past that I personally wouldn't trust it. The caster adjuster is the reason why. A few people have broken them, some others have broken the 10mm bolt holding it to the axle, and with only one upper and that setup, if that breaks, your axle housing rotates, bends your shocks, and your braking gets real sloppy. Again, it's not common to break it, it has happened, but I see absolutely no reason to introduce known marginal design factors into a vehicle when simply using another lift kit avoids the issue entirely.

This usually turns into a religious war between the engineering minded people and hard wheelers vs the mallcrawlers and non engineering minded people, so I won't be posting further on it, I've made my reasons clear, if anyone believes otherwise, by all means say so and run the kit.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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A bunch of my friends run Duratracs and love em. Warning: sidewalls aren't the strongest. Not sure how weak they are, but if you wheel in rocks that sometimes hit your sidewalls, it's something to consider.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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The big yellow stack and canister on the left side of the truck is the intake, actually. No chance of drowning that motor, but I'd probably change the diff fluid and oil!

That HAS to have been taken in Siberia, Alaska, or northern Canada. Nowhere else is there terrain like that and people doing such ridiculous poo poo with large trucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkqtcfhiE4A
for reference those are 40+ inch tires.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lym_fL6KMhA

and I think my favorite. 10 ton truck loaded with 2 and 3 foot diameter logs trying to become a spaceship? Give no fucks, stand on the bumper as a counterweight, kick some rear end, take names.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HKeNn4T3EY

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Hummer Driving human being posted:

Has anyone ever seen or driven or worked on any of these Urals up close? Are they reliable? I would imagine parts are cheap if you're where they're produced.

A friend of mine in Worcester MA has one.

He buys and sells more motorcycles than some dealerships. Always has a different project going.

... and he took the top off the sidecar he has for his Ural and used it to bring a few project bikes home (one at a time, obviously) recently. It seems pretty solid.



e: wait poo poo, you're probably talking about Ural trucks, not motorcycles.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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mod sassinator posted:

Wow how do they get the pistons inside? I guess up through the bottom of the block?

...or piece by piece through the valves like a ship in a bottle? :stare:

I have never seen them go in that way, but I have seen them come out that way.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I'm surprised you haven't looked into rebuilding them yourself yet, they usually aren't difficult to assemble/disassemble and the bearings are (AFAIK) some variety of standard SKS/Timken production, if you can find the part number on one you can probably buy new ones somewhere online.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Geared Hub posted:

At this rate I'll probably need to, I still have one of the cores kicking around. They probably have the PN stamped right onto the bearings...

I need to not talk about alternators.

Went for a wander in the MJ the night before last, which resulted in me fording some 1-1.5 foot deep iced over mudholes as usual. Someone else had already broken the ice so it was just muddy water with a lot of ice chunks in it.

Last night, decided to head out again... started it up and the drat check engine light was on. I just replaced the O2 sensor (old one was fine, but seized into a destroyed downpipe, so I had to replace it when I replaced the downpipe, it came out with no threads left on it) so I figured it was that. Then I noticed the battery voltage was at 12 instead of the usual 14, and the headlights were dim... this morning I checked with a real voltmeter, sure enough 11.75 volts at the battery, 0.01 volts from battery + to B+ on alternator (so it's not the fusible link), 12 volts across the alt field coil (so it's not the ECU), and no charging. gently caress, I hate replacing alternators on XJs/MJs, they're buried in there pretty good.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Soon as I have the van packed and gassed up (in the morning) I am loading my MJ onto a tow dolly and heading for badlands ORP in Attica, IN.

Anyone down for some wheelin'? I'll be there with NAXJA MWC for WinterFest.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Let me know when. It's a hell of a drive but this sounds like fun and I've never been to allwheels.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Mostly agreed. I got my 5ton (big brother of the m35) for 2500 bucks, drove it home, and will have about 5500 into it by the time it is done. It is currently worth more in scrap metal than I have into it and will stay about like that, less the 395/85r20 michelin XML tires I got for it. I really like a vehicle I can legitimately call an investment in scrap metal.

I only get away with parking it at the house because I got lucky, one of my neighbors parks his big rig on the street and worked on trucks in the military, one just got out of the marines, and the other is a florida redneck and therefore thinks it is awesome.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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yeah... if you want to put your spare tire in the bed by yourself, plan on bringing a pair of 2x6s and an old ratchet strap with a hook on the end and it'll still hurt your back.

I had to buy a whole new set of tools. Lug nuts are 1.5" iirc (and are torqued to some ridiculous spec, not sure what it is on a deuce but my 5 ton requires at least 450 ft-lbs) and I had to buy a 15/16" gearwrench to have any chance at tightening my power steering box mounting bolts. I haven't even tried to swap axle torque rods yet, those things have torque specs up in the 600 ft-lb range and the nuts are at least 2" across. It's very strange going from worrying about breaking bolts to worrying about being able to torque them enough.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I'll definitely have to look into one of those for when I run out of other things to dump money into on the truck. It's a money grubbing parts whore right now...

I love having a beat up, 6 by 4 foot self propelled 4x4 wheelbarrow for hauling the old shingles from my porch up the hill to the dumpster:


(subtitle: every day I'm shovelin')

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Hard parking up in this thread


IOwnCalculus posted:

A civillian Hummer actually getting to do what it's supposed to do. Beautiful. :patriot:

I think it would have been comical, however, to have an H2 and an H3 tagging along and/or getting dragged along by the real Hummers :v:

Last time I was at rausch creek, I stopped at a gas station down in pine grove to fill up. There was an h2 covered in lightly mud splattered vinyl wrap with the owner slowly peeling it off. Just as I was starting to laugh, a convoy of about 6 civvy h1s rolled by, battered, scratched, and 100% covered in mud... I wish I had my camera handy.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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jonathan posted:

The H3 and H2 are every bit as capable as an H1 or Jeep Rubicon. They get bashed because of a 10 year old YouTube video of a broken tie rod, and 95% of the owners don't use them to their capability, but when they do go out on the trail, they work very well with a good driver that isn't scared of scratching an expensive vehicle.

Keep in mind the h2 and h3 are falling in price on the used market. I'm sure the chances of seeing them on the trails is going up.

I was more making fun of the sissified owner in this case. Though I am somewhat of a live axle fanboy...

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I saw a beautiful old International Scout in Amherst MA yesterday on the way to the trails... bright yellow, looked very nicely restored.

:allears:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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it's the B-2 bomber!

A friend of mine would be extremely jealous of you for that. He loves the loving things for some reason.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Agreed. Lift blocks means more torque applied to the spring, which causes axle wrap and eventually, either the leafs wear out, or they break like that.

Impressive that he nuked the whole pack at once.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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hey hey holy poo poo someone actually got pictures of me wheeling something interesting.







All mid action shots - there was a series of rocks further down the hill that was difficult due to my wheelbase, so once I got past that I wanted to see if I could make it in one run without stopping. I did.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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it was a blast.

You don't want this truck though. You want a rust free one from the southwest with what I have on it, which is a really mild build... 33" treadwright ATs (get the MTs instead), crummy steelies, 4.5" rusty's rear SUA leafs (the full packs, not the AALs), 4.5" front coils of some sort, big dumb bumpers I built for 150 bucks each in metal, a manual transmission, a rear 8.25" from a late model XJ with 3.55 gears and swapped ZJ disc brakes, a front dana 30 with 3.55s, an aussie locker, and big-ujoint shafts from a late model XJ, and a V8 ZJ tie rod. Pretty sure that's everything I have put on the truck so far.

With good luck you could build what I have for well under 2k - I have 3500 into it now I think and it's a beat up, rotted out junkheap.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I've got nothing left to weld them to :unsmigghh:

When I finish collecting parts it's getting a new frame, floors, and 2x6 box tube rocker replacements though. Don't think I will manage to wreck those.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Motronic posted:

Too late.

triply so.

Original rocker panels: rotted off decades ago
Previous Previous Owner's rocker panels: window screening, bondo (applied with the toes, near as I could tell), house paint :gonk:
My rockers: galvanized 20ga steel sheet and aluminum foil tape (solely for inspection sticker purposes)

... so basically, the rockers have burned down, fell over, and sank into several swamps. They're a lost cause till I rip it all out and do it right. The lowest 2-3" of the doors is ragged rotten swiss cheese sheetmetal too.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Went to a trail cleanup/trail cutting day at one of the local private 4x4 trail systems. Showed up late as usual, which gave me an excuse to see how fast I could go...

No pics of my jeep, was too busy wheeling. Here's a badass yota though.

(click all pics for really big really blurry cellphone camera special edition)



This is deceptive. It's easily past 40 degrees, walking up this rock face is difficult and walking down it is worse.


Made it to the top no problem.




This used to be an XJ. Some of the firewall and floor and the front frame rails (mostly) remain, the rest is a tube buggy. This is also almost too steep to walk up, it took him quite a while to get past this rock.




Not sure what size tires those are, but at least 37s or so. Twin sticked dana 300, 14-bolt rearend, chevy dana 60 front, etc.

edit: video of the ex-XJ going up another hill climb next to the one pictured, may not work unless you have the right friends on FB - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=376222092444645

video of the yota - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=376220725778115

edit2: loving facebook, follow your own url scheme, this is why I'm not a web developer, stand by

kastein fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jul 16, 2012

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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yikes, so they are.

Gimme a minute, I'll thumbnail and/or find some reasonably sized ones.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Aceofsnett rode shotgun with his dvcam in my POS comanche for a speed run on a local unmaintained dirt road... front shocks are nearly blown (again) so I couldn't really open it up, but I still got pretty close to my usual lap time (around 6-6.5 minutes.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENS3VBT6-f0

Things I want to do to the truck after doing this kind of run fairly frequently: antiwrap/traction bar on the rearend, better front bumpstops and shocks, better rear shocks, frame repairs so I can just beat the hell out of it like this without worrying that the frame is gonna fold in half.

kastein fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jul 23, 2012

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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The only exception to that I can think of is slickrock/sandstone (like Moab, etc) where you want low range but have to put it in 4x4 to get that. I guess a 2Lo conversion would get what you'd need, but it costs more than a replacement set of tires...

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I hope they do it right! It sure sounds like they are heading that way.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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You should probably fix your headlights.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I picked up a set of 6 395/85r20 (46" or so, 15+" tread width) XMLs to eventually put on my M54A2. Those loving things are heavy, like 230+lbs each. Got em for $1350 shipped from georgia, they are used but seem like they're in good shape.

I'm pretty sure I could put them on rims with no air in them and run them on my MJ on the road... if I could find a way to even make them fit. I don't think there'd be much left of the front fenders or bedsides.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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jonathan posted:

I have the same tires but on Double beadlock wheels, and with 0psi with the valve in, they stay suspended with my 10,000lb hino/m35a2 hybrid. I don't know what would happen with the valve out. They may go flat at that point.

What is the deal with the HEMMT wheels versus recentered and split m35a2 wheels ? Which is the better setup ?

Not sure. Mine's an M54A2 5-ton so it uses 10 lug Budd style wheels instead of the 6-by-huge deuce lug pattern, which means I COULD put regular 22.5/24.5 OTR tractor wheels and tires on it if I wanted, but what I want is 20" tubeless 10 lug Budd wheels, which existed ~10 years ago, and were common ~20-30 years ago from what I've heard, but every truck parts / truck scrapper place I speak with just scrapped their last set a month or two ago because no one had bought them and they were taking up space.

Those tires are rated for like 9800lbs load PER TIRE, so I doubt the MJ would even flex the sidewalls at 4k fully loaded for a trip, which amounts to like 10% of max load on each tire if I put the XMLs on it.

Where'd you get your double beadlocks and what'd you pay if you don't mind me asking? I'm kinda getting tired of waiting for a set of 20" tubeless OTR rims to come along, which means as soon as I get a job again I'll probably just say gently caress it and pick up a set of custom 20x12 or 20x14 or so 10 lug rims somewhere, or get some HEMMT rims.

kastein fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Aug 1, 2012

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I'm digging that big J truck in the background of one of the photos!

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Mine are bent to poo poo on the MJ because I've been too lazy to cut them off for an entire year now. Three of the eight bolt ends have actually broken off just below the nut from me pounding them into rocks repeatedly.

Next axle (putting a 14 bolt or rear 60 in sometime soonish) I'm going to have to come up with something to fix this problem. Not sure what it will be.

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Aug 31, 2011

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InitialDave posted:

If you're not making any major changes such as going spring-over or doing away with leaf springs entirely, I'd either use a "bolt upwards" clamp design, or a spring plate skid like this:



That's probably something like what I'll do, though I may surround the bolt holes with sched40 pipe for just a little more crush resistance and more importantly to keep mud and saltwater from collecting inside the perch.

I've also been considering a U-bolt eliminator setup, which would leave just bolt heads facing downward if done right.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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Until you mentioned fuel economy I was going to suggest a Quigley 4x4 fullsize conversion van. Hell I might anyways, they're just plain badass.

http://www.quigley4x4.com/Gallery/FordProducts/FordProductPhotos.aspx some pictures of their Ford offerings - they also do Chevy/GMC, some including Duramax Diesel engines, unfortunately I don't believe they do any Dodge products.

Hit the "Scenarios" button then "Rocks".

kastein fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Aug 31, 2012

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Aug 31, 2011

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Safety Dance posted:

Are these really like $12,000 each? Like, I could show up with $12,000 and leave with a 4x4 van?

I'm pretty sure that's the conversion price - i.e. BYOV (suitable vans only) and leave with a 4x4 van.

Me, I'd backyard hack it and call it good. In fact I'm horribly tempted to do that, since I presently have a van with a bad auto trans, a 4x4 5spd manual that would bolt in with proper electronics mods, a suitable transfer case, and even a front axle I could use. drat it, I don't need another project.

The upside to the Quigley conversions is that they're done using mostly factory parts from suitable donors (I suspect the frontends are chosen from similar GVWR pickups by the same manufacturer) and are in fact factory warrantied/serviced/certified, or at least won't result in a screaming service writer when you bring it in.

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I go out alone all the time, but only in areas I know I have cell reception, which I have wheeled a minimum of two or three times previously, with a full complement of spares and tools. And I tell people where I went.

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