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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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NVaderJ posted:

For the driving I do, yes I get 13 mpg. I drive approximately two miles to work, and I assume that the low speed (speed limit is 25 the whole 2 miles) and four stop signs conspire with cold Michigan winters to keep my fuel economy in peak-oil-inducing levels. On longer trips I get up around 17-17.5 on the highway.

That makes sense. My xj on 33" mud terrains gets 15mpg most the time, but I do mostly country driving.

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Disciple of Pain posted:

I've heard this statement before, I just don't think it is *always* true. We have a guy who delivers vehicles for us at work who has an F350 with a gooseneck trailer that he tows... uh... definitely more than the weight of that truck with (for sure...)

It's what I tell people who have no towing experience and want to to something ridiculous with their crappy vehicle. It isn't really true, but if your car isn't set up for towing it is good advice to follow.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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The King of Swag posted:

The engine in my Wrangler has another 250 thousand in it easy (never had one give trouble under 300k miles), but the day it does need swapping, I'll definitely be going for a 4.6L or larger stroker, possibly supercharged. All the reliability of the 4.0L with the power of a better small-block V8.

Strokers are so drat hot. I was reading a write up a while ago were they put a 4.6l stroker in a wrangler and completely reworked the suspension. It ended up with 36" tires and an awesome sound. Some day I want to get a cherokee, do the back window delete and drop a stroker in there for some hot high speed cherokee action.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Looks like a pretty decent deal. I would jump on it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Disciple of Pain posted:



I want to take this and drop a 4bt diesel in it. I would put a canvas cover on the back like old troop haulers paint it farm tractor red and weld boxes in the back and turn it in to the camping/offroad truck I have always wanted.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 4, 2008

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Jack_Handey posted:

Nope, they definitely will take 33's stock, I put a set on one once, currently my XJ Cherokee is sitting on 33's with only a 3" lift.

You have a recent picture of your cherokee? I always loved it and it's why I picked up mine. Sitting on 33" with 5.5" lift.

Edit: Figure I should throw up a pic of mine after a hard days work.


v Looking good. What tires are those?

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 22:34 on May 4, 2008

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Just thought I would share this with everyone since the talk has turned toward full size jeeps.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

Nice. Is that a pickup?

Pretty sure it is one of the old fullsize pickups. Great looking trucks if you can find on in good condition.


Rhyno posted:

Just seeing that makes me dizzy.


Hate heights hate heights hate heights.

Me too.
It is from a Warn ad where they used an exacto knife to cut away the other half of the trail and add the trees.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

They do look awesome, but the razor grill is my least favorite

I love the gladiator that has just the center grill like a m715.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Nice truck. I have been tempted to add running lights to the cherokee. I have a guilty passion for vehicles that look like christmas trees.

Evidence from last christmas.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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russ6570 posted:

alright
here are some more pictures


Looking good. Now go get it dirty. Also check out my 4x4 thread for good advice from the offroad goons.

I'm going to be hitting up a bunch of fire roads on friday to try out my new gps mount. I will also be picking up a map for the Sam Houston national forest that is up the road. Hopefully I can find somewhere fun to go camping and fishing. If any Houston goons want to come driving I'm open to having company.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 00:27 on May 14, 2008

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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russ6570 posted:

Definatly. And if any Michigan goons know of anywhere to go that is relatively good for beginners near Lansing, please let me know.

A few websites that would be good for finding people and places to wheel are jeepforum, naxja and expeditionportal. All of them are full of friendly people and great advice.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Jack_Handey posted:

Trust me, just skip the poo poo and go straight to Pirate4x4.com. If you get into wheelin' enough you'll end up posting there and nowhere else anyway.

I love pirate for tech, but not so much for finding people. But you are right that I should have mentioned them. I also like expedition portal because that is were I get all my good traveling info and offroad trailer tech. A word of warning about pirate to anyone who may venture there. They are a rough group and it is best to approach cautiously.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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MrZig posted:

JeepForum is OK as well, though I don't go there much.

I find jeep forum is a good way for someone to get in to tech. They are more helpful with small tech stuff. I do love naxja though and will be buying a membership there.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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MrZig posted:

Do you post at NAXJA? What's your username there?

Same username, but I don't post much.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Valgarv posted:

I'm wondering if anyone has any advice regarding engine swaps? I've found a smallblock chevy v8 and a rebuilt sm 465 manual tranny. The engine has all the wiring, the computer, alternator. Jeep currently has a 4Cylinder 2.5L AMC, and an AX5 tranny. Am I missing anything or any advice before I buy it and start taking things apart?

Your going to probably want to trade out the whole drive train and beef up the suspension for this swap. What axles does it have?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Valgarv posted:

As far as I know the axles are stock. I have a np231 transfer case which from what I've read should be able to take the sm 465.

Depending on what year you are probably running a dana 30 up front and a dana 35 out back. If that is the case a v8 will trash those pretty easily. Use this to try and figure out what you have or take pictures and post them here.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Valgarv posted:



This is my rear axle, which looks like Dana 35, the front axle looks the same. So it looks like I need some new axles, any suggestions? I remember reading somewhere that Dana 44's were the way to go, this true?

Dana 44 or up depending on what tires and such you want to run.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Disciple of Pain posted:

Everyone says that, but IMO it is mostly true for when you are shopping for a Jeep. If I'm going to build an off-roader and will be swapping the axles (which if I were you I wouldn't do until those 35s let go, it could be a LONG time if you are careful with the skinny pedal - or it could be sooner) I'd go for Dana 60s or some other full-size truck axle. In my experience they are probably just as easy to find (there are a lot of 1 ton trucks in junkyards with perfectly fine axles), you will need to do some fabricating though - but you'll end up with an axle that can take huge tires + abuse and pretty much never break.

It depends on what type of offroader he is trying to build. If he just wants something with 33" tires I wouldn't go over a dana 44 because you are just losing ground clearance. Not everything need to be overbuilt. If he does want to go big then more power to him.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Well we had a good rain storm last night which means I had to go for a little drive. The area is all red clay and sand, so there was a lot of washed out ruts and mud puddles. I did get stuck leaving because I put it in 2wd and then hit a mud puddle at the bottom of a small hill that was hidden by grass. I have to say that driving through loose wet sand it more fun than I would imagine.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Just a friendly reminder to everyone to get and and exercise your transfer case.

I really love my cherokee. No I didn't go all the way over. To little ground clearance and to much rebar sticking out.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

I just noticed a little bit of some kind of red liquid under my Jeep today. Hmm, what ever could it be?

Another thing to fix before I can get out on the trail. Ugh.

Power steering fluid?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

Tranny or Tcase. It was under the center. On the plus side, I haven't noticed leaking gas as of late! :q:

My friend took off his trany/tcase skid plate on his old truck and all his tranny fluid had pooled on it. It dumped straight on his face. Good luck hunting down the leak.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Blackmage Yapo posted:

PS Its a CJ-8

Someday I will have a cj8. I pulled up to a stop light a while back and a guy in a cj8 with 36" tires pulled up next to me. He challenge me to a street race and stomped all over my cherokee. Turns out that wonderful rumble his jeep was making was from a 401 he swapped in to it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Jack_Handey posted:

Here's what I'm currently building at work: http://rubitrux.com/

RubiTrux, a crazy scheme made up by my boss to make modern day CJ8's. They don't seem to be selling very well.

Sweet. I would love one of those if I had the money. It seems to be a better price point than the brute kit.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

This is where all my 401s are going! :argh:

There was a trashed old cherokee with a 401 on craigslist the other day and I almost bought it. The guy wanted $600 and the body was not to bad, but it lacked a drive train besides the engine. If only I had a place to put it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

I saw a Cherokee a long time ago with a 401 for $1200. The body looked great, but the back window was stuck down so there was probably rust all in the cargo area. I haven't seen any 401s since.

I should have bought it. The rust wouldn't scare me away now.

Cherokees are so badass too.

I would love to get a fsj and fix it up for camping and exploring. Probably wont be very many around when I am able to afford it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

They're not that expensive now. Just do it man.

But seriously, I don't think FSJs are going to get that much more expensive in the future. You can still get J trucks for pretty cheap now. I can see Cherokees and J trucks getting pricey, but there will always be Wagoneers around.

I would but right know I have absolutely nowhere to put it and no money to work on it. My saved money right now is going to go toward a trip with my current cherokee through the southwest. I plan to hit Big Bend park, death valley and the San Rafael Swell. If I can get it all worked out I will be living and camping out of the cherokee for a few months.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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SNiPER_Magnum posted:

That trip sounds awesome. I'm hoping to get my Jeep ready for some camping trips. Not for months, though. That's insane.

Sadly with gas prices looking like they are and a hiking trip to philmont in late july this trip is getting harder and harder to put together. My father has offered to loan me some money in addition to the money he is paying me for a summers work. Hopefully it will all come together. If it does you can expect a very large thread about it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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leica posted:

I've noticed a "clunking" coming from the front end going over bumps and pot holes, anyone have an idea what it may be?

Is it just a single clunk or a few clunks in a row?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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leica posted:

One single clunk over any significant bump/hole at low speed. I noticed it a bit going in and out of my driveway in Florida (which had basically a curb at the end of it) and didn't think much of it, but on the trail it was much more prominent.

First thing I would do is check and make sure nothing is loose and striking something else. Other than that I can't help for a clunk.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Boomerjinks posted:

Too bad there isn't a fat jeep that could put it on and stretch it out for me. loving gently caress!

Park it out in the sun and it will help stretch the top out. I had the same problem with my CJ7.


A friend was spending the weekend with me so we went for a little exploration in the Sam Houston National Forest. I found an awesome little 1 mile trail that you definitely need a small 4wheel drive with a good lift to get through. In one section I had a less than 2" of clearance on either side of the Cherokee. The trail leads to a nice little camping spot by Lake Conroe that I am going to take some friends to next week. If anyone in the Houston area is looking for a good camping spot with no activity feel free to PM me for GPS coordinates. If anyone wants to meet me there or knows of any other trails I would be more than happy to hang out.

Two pictures from my cell phone.

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Braincloud posted:

While visiting my friend in Bend this last weekend, it seems her parents acquired a new Jeep.



This thing is burly, is chipped, geared, has Poison Spider axles, sits atop fully beadlocked 37s and *sniffle* will never see a day off road. Of course, if it goes over more than a speed bump, those 37s will stuff themselves through the fenders.

And they had the audacity to slap a Moab sticker on it. What is wrong with people?

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Braincloud posted:

Actually, those were on it when they bought it.

Please help them take them off. I don't mind if you want a pavement pounder, but I hate when people fake it.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Veeb0rg posted:

makes ya wonder if the beadlocks are real, it looks to have a nice front bumper on it too, i wouldn't be suprised if that hasn't seen trail time..

Oh god I just noticed the winch on it. Why wont they just take it offroad? I wish someone would come along and treat it right. It's like a poor lost puppy.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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CommieGIR posted:

Y'know some of us offroad stock and CLEAN our cars

Well how are we supposed to know? I drive a cherokee and I don't wave to other cherokees unless they are built or muddy. Then again I don't wave to stock wranglers either because most of them don't offroad around here.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Legitimate posted:

I haven't got carpet (and I don't want it of course). I once rode in a friend's Jeep that had a Herculiner lined body tub. Is this a good idea?

Yes. I ripped the carpet out of my cj7 and herculined the interior and it was great. Just don't do a half-assed job of it or it will look bad.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Legitimate posted:

Can I roll it on and it will look good or should it be sprayed?

Rolled on if you make sure to do plenty of prep work. You need to rough up the paint really well and clean it with some acetone or something before hand. Don't think it will be a quick job.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Legitimate posted:

I live right on the beach on the pacific coast and this vehicle will be seeing lots of rain, salt, and sand. I'd like to be able to do the "spray it out with a hose" thing after I do the hercu-lining. This might be a stupid question but what else can/should I do to the interior to make it more water friendly?

Make sure all your under dash electrical is waterproofed. I would hate for you to spray it out and have your radio short out. I would also spring for water proof speakers if you can afford it.

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Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Glad to see everyone getting some cool Jeeps. Can't wait for more updates about the FSJ Cherokee.

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