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Is there a NAS distribution thats built around disk speed? I currently use unraid, which tends to store entire files on a single disk, regardless of size. I have a 10GB link from it to my video editing PC, but I feel like I cant really take advantage of it since everything is streaming off one disk. The unraid is currently all spinning disks, but I am looking to rebuild with SATA SSD's very soon. Is there a distro that is more built for fast file movement?
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2023 15:58 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 15:50 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:A 100GB link? Nice. Its a 10GB SPF Direct cable
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2023 16:44 |
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VostokProgram posted:Just to be extremely clear: gigabits or gigabytes? I had to check the hardware profile, but it looks like bits quote:Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82599ES 10-Gigabit SFI/SFP+ Network Connection (rev 01)
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2023 18:57 |
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Wibla posted:TrueNAS Scale or Core will do what you need. Unraid is literally the opposite of what you need to solve your needs in this instance, for the reasons you've already stated. While you're figuring out how to get from what you have today, to a fully functioning NAS, you can add an NVMe drive to your unraid server to use as a scratch drive for editing, but that means you need to manually copy files to and from that drive. I do have a cache 1TB SATA SSD in my unraid, but again, its the limitations of a single disk that come into play. I am looking to store a modest amount of data (currently about 5.5TB) in a redundant way so that I do not get a single point of failure (this is why I don't have it all sitting on a single 10TB disk, despite that being by far the easiest option). I also would like to take advantage of the 10Gbit link between the server and my video editing PC. It would be nice to be able to store everything on the NAS and edit directly from there. I'm mostly dealing with 4K and some 6K footage. Other than that its simple file storage accessible over gigabit ethernet or wifi, one or two VM's and a plex docker that just occasionally serves my local LAN on the box. I have access to a bunch of ex-datacenter stuff (which is where I got the 10GB SFP cards for the unraid box and my video editing box). Everything currently runs on a Dell Poweredge T420 with 8 Drive bays filled with spinning disks on a PERC 6GB unit of some sort that has been flashed to HBA mode, 2x E5-2430 V2's and 192GB DDR3 I also have a stack of 1TB SATA SSD's, which, should get me 7TB usable under the current unraid standard, assuming 8 of them in use. Since I already have the SSD's I was hoping to put them to use as an upgrade in both speed, heat generation and power consumption over the spinning rust. I also have the option of moving this all over to an HP DL380 G9 with 2x E5-2640 V3's, 128GB DDR4, and a 12GB/S SAS controller, but I'm guessing the 12GB/s unit wont gain me anything without using 12GB/s drives with it. Nothing that I own as a candidate for a NAS can accept an NVME drive. Its all a bit too old for that. Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Mar 31, 2023 |
# ¿ Mar 31, 2023 21:18 |
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Wibla posted:hol up! Yeah, its all here just sitting, its an 8-bay 2.5" drive DL380. I do have a free PCI-E slot after I would add the SFP card to it, so the NVME is something to look at then. Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 31, 2023 |
# ¿ Mar 31, 2023 22:26 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:HPE branded Microsemi RAID controller? It is an HPE branded controller, although I don’t know what kind offhand without opening it up and it’s at my office right now. A cursory google suggested that it has an inbuilt HBA mode that you can switch to
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2023 02:40 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Huh, I'd completely forgotten about both these. I’ll do some research on it. I know the perc controller in my current Dell should be fine, so worst case scenario I can swap that in because I believe it’s normal pci-e
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2023 15:35 |
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VelociBacon posted:Hoping someone can help, I can't remember the name of some software that was recommended, basically it was like Plex but better at hosting media that isn't movies or shows (in my case it's motorsport stuff). Anyone remember what this was called or have another recommendation for this? Ideally I would be able to install an app like Plex on phone/tablet and be able to stream this media from outside of the LAN. Jellyfin
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2023 19:34 |
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Yeah, you get to keep it all in one device and have to janitor fewer devices. Also my unraid server will transcode on CPU just fine. You might not even need a GPU
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2023 16:20 |
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I'm still chasing a high performance NAS setup for editing video from. I think I have the hardware figured out, my problem is that I have a mixture of 1TB and 500GB SSD SATA disks. RAIDZ seems to want to use all similarly sized disks, and most JBOD solutions seem to not split data over different drives, which results in read speeds limited by the speed of a single drive. I have recently come into a decent used gaming PC (i7-6700K, 32GB RAM) that can accept M.2 drives, so I have the option to do that if I want to as well, along with throwing a SATA card in it to take the disks. I also have a 10Gigabit link that can go between the NAS and my editing PC, so I'm thinking of connecting the two over iSCSI? Is truenas the solution for all that? If so, what is the best way to set it up to use differently sized disks? I also have an option to throw all of that out and put the drives in a Synology DS2419+ that has a 10Gbit SFP+ card in it, but no NVME capability unless I buy their adapter card for it. So do I build my own thing with Truenas, or just pres the easy button with the Synology? Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Apr 24, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 24, 2023 21:12 |
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I want to say 4x 1tb drives and 10x 500gb drives? Between the sata on the motherboard and the sata card I have, I can cover the 14 drives.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2023 00:51 |
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I’ll give that a shot. Normally I’d feel like it’s a bad idea to use this many disks, but they all probably draw less power than one spinning disk anyway
Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Apr 25, 2023 |
# ¿ Apr 25, 2023 12:42 |
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I've been running Unraid for I think 3 years now and the amount of janitoring is basically "log in and see if there are updates" Unless you have wonky hardware its pretty hands off after initial setup
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2023 13:50 |
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The only reason im considering Truenas is because I'm chasing performance, and Unraid just doesnt do it, other than that its fantastic
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2023 14:57 |
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My power save setup is a bunch of SSD’s. My current server idles at about 115w even with the spinny disks put to sleep. Moving from a server with redundant power supplies and 800 fans to a PC with an AIO water loop and SSD’s will hopefully solve a lot.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 22:43 |
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I’d imagine the synologys are pretty efficient. A lot of them use intel atom cpus
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 23:20 |
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Does it make sense to use iSCSI rather than NFS or SMB to connect my video editing PC to a TrueNAS machine? I can connect the two over 10Gbit SFP+ My understanding is that iSCSI would be better for the video editing machine?
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 03:15 |
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drat that’s clean! I’m for sure not posting mine now lol
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 03:55 |
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OK, I'm using TrueNAS for the first time, and I'm having trouble getting basic SMB sharing going. Here's what I've got: A Pool consisting of two Vdevs made of 500GB and 1TB SATA drives Under that pool is a dataset called "SSD Pool Dataset", I dont really understand what datasets are yet The Pool ACL, specifically giving datauser full access I've created a user called Datauser that I plan to use to log into the SMB share remotely I have an SMB Share, sharing the pool The Share ACL I'm getting access denied when I try to write to the share with a remote computer. I dont know enough yet to know what I did wrong though
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 18:27 |
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Wait, I was trying to write to SSD Pool, should I be trying to write to SSD Pool Dataset? Because that does actually work
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 18:39 |
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Ok I think I had it correct the whole time and just didn’t know where to put data
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2023 21:18 |
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Is there any way in truenas to see how full each individual physical disk is? It lets you see the pool, but I can’t find remaining capacity for the disks themselves
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# ¿ May 11, 2023 01:44 |
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I thought I remembered one, but I can't track it down anywhere. Why does it matter? I guess it doesnt matter, because I did not know that IOwnCalculus posted:everything in a given vdev should have identical usage. That clears up why I cant find the per-disk usage. I'm more used to Unraid, which will fill disks in a couple different ways, depending on how you have it set up Thanks!
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# ¿ May 11, 2023 14:35 |
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It figures as soon as I migrate everything off of unraid and onto truenas, unraid comes out with ZFS
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# ¿ May 18, 2023 18:38 |
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I logged in to see a warning on my TrueNas today. Running "zpool status -v" reports the following:code:
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# ¿ May 25, 2023 01:06 |
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Most perc cards need to be flashed to work well with nas software.
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# ¿ May 26, 2023 00:11 |
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Decommissioning my NAS by Old Yellering it
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2023 16:52 |
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VGA, like serial, will never go away
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2023 01:31 |
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My truenas setup has two sets of disks in the main pool. "raidz1-0" is 1TB SSD's and "raidz1-1" is 500gb SSD's, I have a bunch more 1TB SSD's now and I can probably replace the 500GB vdev with 1TB disks and get the same or more capacity with less disks. Is there a way to do this without just blowing the whole pool away, recreating it with the new disks and restoring a backup to it? Can I do an in-place upgrade? See below for config code:
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2023 15:08 |
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Anyone know of any performance comparisons done between ZFS implementations in unraid vs truenas? Now that unraid supports ZFS I’m seriously considering leaving truenas for it, because I like using unraid much better.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2023 02:44 |
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Synology question: I have a DS1819+ that I just came into possession of, and 7 out of 8 disks are working, but that’s still enough space to store what I need. Can I create the storage pool now and then add the 8th disk to expand it later? Or does synology use a ZFS-like system that can’t be expanded?
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 13:25 |
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They are all 10tb, so btrfs, but I can’t expand it? Can I use the extra as a hot spare at least when I replace it?
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 13:41 |
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What do you all consider good temps for drives? My synology has 7x Seagate IronWolf 10TB drives sitting at about 30C/86F. Thats basically the temp of a normal warm day. Where do you start getting worried about them? Should I be shooting more for ambient (which in my basement is around 65F)?
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2023 03:14 |
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I'm sort of surprised we can get helium to stay in drives considering it eventually exits most other containers
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2023 15:59 |
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I recently left unraid for synology. I was pushed over the edge by the extremely dumb unraid licensing system deciding that my flash drive GUID was blacklisted one day (I think they updated the blacklist after the fact and mine got caught in it). This resulted in me emailing them for a new key, waiting for it and then finding it didn’t work because I moved servers earlier in the year and that meant I had already exceeded my license transfers for the year. Then I had to email them again to have them bump my license transfer limit up so I could use the new flash drive I had to buy so that I could use the software I paid for after my old drive got blacklisted out of the blue. It’s super frustrating to pay for a product and then be treated at every step like I’m trying to steal it synology on the other hand has been very straightforward and requires next to no janitoring. I’m happy so far.
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# ¿ Nov 28, 2023 13:55 |
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They’re fine. Drives that are jostled around when they’re powered off are really resilient.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2023 22:31 |
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Is there an easy way to DIY a DAS? I have a little stack of 4TB drives hanging around and it would be kinda nice to be able to raid them together and hook them up over USB. Basically, can you home build something like a Lacie?
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2024 23:54 |
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That Mass Storage Gadget looks promising. I think by connecting it with a PCIE->USB-C card you'd be pretty good to go on most PC's There is of course the problem of running it on a real PC, shutting it down cleanly, etc. The amazon $100 disk box is probably the way to go, even though building one would be more fun
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2024 02:07 |
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Every day I open palm slam my hand into the basement door, walk over by my NAS and scream at the top of my lungs. 2 hours, including wind down
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2024 15:04 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 15:50 |
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other people posted:Wow that is some embarrassing my-first-php level poo poo. Yeah this really does reek of “testing script that accidentally made it to production” lol
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2024 13:51 |