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Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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my girlfriend and i are fairly new to fishkeeping, but having maintained 5, 10, and 38 gallon freshwater tanks for about the last 8 months, we're about to set up a 55 gallon salt tank. we've got the 55 display already, with a (i think) 29 gallon sump with refugium setup on the way. i should note that eventually we'd like to go full on reef with corals, invertebrates, and fish, but for now it will be fish and live rock only.

we're gong to do a 50/50 mix of live sand and aragonite, and live rock in the display, then some specific refugium mud and simple macro algae and their plants in the refugium area below. we've got a full spectrum light for that refugium, and will be picking up a better led for the display shortly, along with timers to offset each light cycle.

i'm curious about mechanical and other filtration for this setup, and have read that we won't need a protein skimmer right off the bat. we did buy a UV filter from a dude on offerup that connects to the return, but i'm not sure that will be necessary.

what are your filtration recommendations, and do you mind posting pics of your setups? thanks!

e: we'll be getting powerheads too, forgot to mention

Not Very Metal fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 3, 2018

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Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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thanks for the tips all! the overflow box is arriving today, so i'll likely be drilling the display for plumbing tonight.

the ATO unit is something we keep seeing pop up in our research, but haven't purchased yet - thanks for the reminder, we'll definitely need one.

my gf ordered the sump online, which i see this morning has a filter sock in the first chamber, then fittings for two other reactors. looking at reactors this morning, they're certainly in the budget, so i'll likely grab one of those as well. the general consensus with what i've read is that a skimmer will be needed eventually, so we'll probably pick one up before we get this bad boy up and running. i doubt we'll use that UV filter at all, this tank is pretty small and i can't image we'll need it.

we spoke to our local fish guy about an RODI unit, his advice was it's useful but not necessary in our area - he doesn't run one for his salt and reef tanks, but i don't remember what size tanks he said he has. i'm on the fence currently, as i haven't done a ton of research on them. our freshwater tanks have done really well with tap water treated with aqueon water conditioner, but i do know salt livestock can be a bit more delicate. i'll ask around in my local facebook salt tank groups, see what others in my area are doing.

tbh we've barely started with our fish wish list for this tank, but reef friendly is excellent advise, we do want corals eventually.

anyway thanks again for all the advice, this is becoming less and less daunting almost daily. sorry too for the giant walls of text!

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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thegasman2000 posted:

If you haven’t get on reefcentral those forums are great!

I would definitely never ever ever use tap water for marine. The algae will cause you issues all day long and when you convert to reef later you will need to bin your rock as it will absorb phosphates and nitrates. And rodi unit will save you on the long run and the “dirty” water is great for plants and stuff.

It’s a great hobby and the people are generally great. Make a relationship with your lfs is my one piece of advice.

ahaha, yeah, most of my research has been reading the forums at reef central and marine depot videos.

our lfs dude is super cool, VERY excited about the hobby - he's been great for sure. the RODI units aren't terribly expensive, even going for overkill our our tank size now. you're probably right, better to get one now to save money in the long run. thanks!

Not Very Metal fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jan 4, 2018

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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yeah the more i think about it the more the RODI system seems like a good idea. now i'm running into space issues, i'm planning to have this 55g right next to my 38g freshwater in the living room. add in the RODI and i foresee much more furniture and cabinet building in my future.

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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Enos Cabell posted:

You don't really need the RODI to be near the tank. I have mine set up in a guest bathroom, and the water goes into a Brute for later use.

Edit to add: you don't need to leave the RODI hooked up full time, you can just pull it out once a week to make water then store it away again.

this is something that's confused me - i understand that the RODI is fed directly from the tap or garden hose, i now get that the produced water can go into some sort of storage unit. do you pump directly from that container into your sump/tank? you must then only use the RODI when you need to do a water change, right?

e: ninja edited, thanks!

Not Very Metal fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jan 4, 2018

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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brilliant, thank you both!

Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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our foray into the marine aquarium life is coming along slowly but surely, and we're acquiring the last of our equipment. just need to get our return pump, display tank light, and the RODI system. I'm looking at the light and RODI below; thoughts, comments, concerns with my choices?

Lights

RODI

I figure the 100gpd on the RODI will be sufficient for the 55g marine and 38g freshwater displays we have, with some room if when we go bigger.

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Not Very Metal
Aug 3, 2007

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Bulky Bartokomous posted:

RODI is not recommend for freshwater aquariums. They need the dissolved minerals. You could add some stuff back in but there are very few situations where it is worth the hassle.

ah, thank you - noted!

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