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Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Some of my polyps took a few days to fully open and I don't even dip them, so I wouldn't worry too much yet. They're probably just shy. :3:

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Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
My duncan coral died, what the gently caress. My SPS encrusting Monti thing is actually growing, so I guess my lighting is going alright?

Also, I'm having problems with corals staying put. Recently all my mushrooms and rics have started falling off wherever I glued them, even though they've been there for weeks. I don't think my urchin has been messing with them, he's not carried anything in a good while. It's just a big pain in the rear end to have to fish corals out of whatever crevice they've managed to fall into.

I've gotten the itch lately about upgrading my tank to a 10 gallon. I saw the awesome Live Framing article in this month's Marine Fish & Reef magazine, and I really want to start a project with something similar. The article mentions that live framing was designed for big tanks, but I want to scale it down a bit to apply to nanos.

I have daydreams about a 10 gallon tank with a big arch of liverock with hidden powerheads and fully removable pieces.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Psimitry posted:

It wouldn't actually be that big of a deal for me to downgrade to a 50G tank and not worry about the 90G, but I have the friggin' achilles tang and I love him.

Oh. Crap. Not to mention the mandarin.

What about a 75?

I'm wondering what it would cost to go up to a 10 gallon, possibly with a fuge as well. I ideally want 2 powerheads, I know nothing about overflows and top-offs and fuges. Ugh.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

csammis posted:

If you used an in-tank overflow design - basically partition off one side of the tank with plexiglass, one side with overflow teeth and the other with a return pump - it wouldn't cost that much. Clear plexiglass is cheap, cutting can be done with hand tools (if you're patient), and you can put partitions in the overflow area to create a low-flow area for a fuge.

Wow, that's a nice setup! I was thinking of something like this, and putting my lettuce sea slugs and other delicates in the fuge along with the algae. I'd just be afraid of them (or something else) getting caught in the return pump, would I have to have a completely seperated compartment with some sort of netting for the pump? Right now my powerhead is covered in netting to keep my slugs safe, but it cuts down on flow a lot. :(

Edit: Whoops, I see that he put rubble at the bottom to allow for flow but keep important stuff in. Good deal.

csammis posted:

A sump and an out-of-tank-into-sump overflow, yes (arguably). The setup I posted to hide equipment, and a refugium in general to cultivate critters and provide aid in waste export, not a waste of time at all.

This. I want to mainly seperate equipment and use it to provide a safe haven for my slugs, as well as a place for copepods and such to multiply.

Psimitry posted:

LOL in my very first tank (an 18G tank, which actually WASN'T my later sump) I had I think 4 powerheads.

Now of course, you can just do 1-2 Hydor pumps.

Yup. I have one hydor right now in my 6.6 gallon.

Aphelion Necrology fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Sep 17, 2008

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Well today is just poo poo.

My tank crashed. I have no idea what happened, I did my regular water change and parameter checks on Thursday, everything seemed fine over the weekend. This morning I wake up to a tank basically engulfed in brown algae.

I did a big water change and got all my params back to normal, but I had a big nitrate and nitrite spike, and also had a bit of ammonia.

Casualties include: Pair of sexy shrimp, one anemone shrimp, pair of lettuce sea slugs, most of my snails, some hermits, some zoas, and possibly my urchin. My featherduster dropped his crown as well.

My ricordeas look fine, as do a good portion of my zoas and palys, but I my SPS corals aren't looking so hot. I'm crossing my fingers for them.

I'm really upset. I have no idea what happened and I just feel like a failure. I'm very sad about the loss of my slugs and anemone shrimp, they were my favourites.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Psimitry posted:

Chances are something died and had a nasty explosion of organic waste.

The last time this happened to me, it was a glass heater that shattered and killed all of my snails, causing ammonia to spike. Check your heater if you have one.

Also - you've had a mini-cycle. Not a crash. A crash is when literally everything is dead. Certainly bad, but not unrecoverable. Start looking for equipment failures. Failing that, start looking for dead things such as fish.

I don't have any fish or anything "big" really, but I guess it wouldn't take much to cycle a 7 gallon. I can only imagine my sea cucumber could cause something like that, but he's still very alive. My heater and powerhead are up and working fine as well (I have a Stealth). I can't find my urchin, so he might be the cause.

I wanted to upgrade to a 10 or 20 gallon, but I think this little catastrophe has made me a bit shy. I certainly didn't lose everything, or even a large amount of expensive things like some people have, but it's still depressing.

I miss my little sea slugs! :(

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
I had 2 slugs, and there is still a big bunch of hair algae that I got just for them. They were always hanging out in it, so I figured they were eating it. When I came in this morning the slugs were basically...melted. :gonk:

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

streetlamp posted:

Thanks! I'll be sure to post any updates if I go ahead any do this. Can anyone recommend a good 10gal that doesnt need to be modded to hell?

Thoughts on the Aquapod 24 gallon, 64W Compact Fluorescent System?

The AP24 is a nice all-in-one as long as you stick with soft corals and such, I looked into getting one myself but instead I'm going to try to DIY my own 10 gallon with an in-tank fuge and a big sunpod light so I can have a clam. :3: (If anyone has a used 20" 150w Sunpod they want to sell, send me a PM)

Most all-in-ones usually need to be modded in some way, especially once you get into the more light-intense corals. They usually need lighting/cooling upgrades, and a lot of people replace the stock pump or modify the filters into fuges.

Modding seems to be part of the fun, actually.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Psimitry posted:

Metal-Halide (A.K.A. Halide, MH): The current mainstay lighting system in the reef aquarium hobby. EXTREMELY intense lighting. Light from this type of fixture can penetrate all but the deepest reef tanks (and if you need to penetrate deeper, you can simply use a higher wattage bulb). Currently the closest replication of natural sunlight available. Produces a characteristic "shimmer" that cannot be reproduced with any other form of common light fixture. One can realistically grow any form of coral under this type of fixture. So why don't I like them? loving HEAT. Seriously. These things are unbelievably hot. They are a space heater for your room, and most people who run multiple high wattage MH systems employ a chiller because these lights employ so much loving heat into the water. They must also be placed about 8 inches away from the water's surface, otherwise a random splash of water can cause the bulb to explode (they're that hot). I really, REALLY like the look of these bulbs, as long as they're in someone else's house.

Yeah, a splash of water shattered the glass cover on my metal halide lamp (70w Viper Clamp Lamp), but the bulb needs to be replaced soon anyway and that's a good excuse for me to get the 150w with built-in fans.

I was dumb, my light is only about 4 inches from the water. :D

Also, if you are planning on having any clams or large anemones in your tank, I would suggest MH lighting.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Psimitry posted:

Anemones or clams will do just fine under IR-T5HO. I kept a green BTA happy and healthy under them, my former roommate kept a HUGE Rose anemone near the bottom of the tank with the exact same IR-T5HO setup. The only reason one should HAVE to use MH is if your tank is 30" deep or deeper.

That and I have to admit, it is prettier (though the shadows they create are kind of a bitch).

I'm probably just biased, since now I have MH, I don't think I'd want any other lighting. I love the intensity and how it presents the colors of my tank. I was also told by several big clam keepers that MH are the best, but it's true that IR-T5HO would work as well. :3:

I'm planning to get a baby clam and an anemone soon, probably a green BTA actually. How did you like yours?

Aphelion Necrology fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Nov 10, 2008

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
You didn't cycle the tank first? :(

There's a good chance the chemical spikes from the live rock will kill your new critters. Sorry.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

bobbert posted:

The live sand probably will not help you to much. With one of my tanks I bought the rock local and it was only out of the water for minimum amount of time, when shipping the rock is out for a longer period of time. This will bring a stronger cycle(more die off), and I would say the right thing to do would be to find another temporary home for your inverts at least for a few weeks, they might survive but its going to be rough. I don't know how much a serpent star can take, I would bank on the shrimp not making it. After you add your rock some wait a few days run a few tests and then you will know where you are at with cycling. If you purchased your rock locally, not saying its better, your cycle would be less maybe this is what they were using as reference for the advice they gave you.

I agree with this. Shrimp are VERY sensitive and yours will most likely die, but I have a serpent star just like yours and it has survived many accidents including a mini-cycle. It took my tank almost 2 weeks to completely cycle after I added my liverock, so I would think of returning your inverts or finding a babysitter until you're sure everything is safe.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
I am selling my Green BTA, and while removing it from the baserock, it actually split into two equal pieces. (Total accident, I didn't see that half of the foot was actually on a different piece of rock! :gonk:) I believe it was in the process of splitting naturally due to the size and shape of the original 'nem. Nothing "came out" of the 'nem when it tore, and both parts seemed to pull their edges together, so I can barely see where they came apart.

This happened over 24 hours ago and both halves look healthy, no shriveled tentacles or anything, their feet are unharmed, and my clowns are still hosting both parts. Should I be concerned? Each piece is about 2 inches across at the foot.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Psimitry posted:

Dose a normal bit of iodine into the water (A couple drops of Lugol's solution should do the trick) in order to help it fight off anything that might try to attack the wound and to help the healing process.

As far as if you should be worried... tough to say. You'll know if things start to go south, but in the meantime all you can do is watch and hope.

I dose iodine already. :) Now it's a waiting game, I guess.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
I've been giving serious thought to downgrading my 12g Nano, getting rid of everything but rics/zoas, and turning it into a tank for seahorses/pipefsh and small ornamental shrimp.

I'm thinking of having the bottom of the tank for the soft corals, and then planting some plants to grow upward for the horses. I'd also downgrade from my Metal Halide lamp back to the stock hood with PC bulbs.

The shrimp I'm thinking of are things like Sexies, 'Nem Shrimp, and perhaps Harlquins. I'd also dump my hermits for favor of sand-sifting cucumbers/starfish.

A difficult adventure, but I want it so badly! :3:

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

optikalus posted:

After much observation, it appears that my hermits are pissing off the GSP. One hermit in particular (the largest one in my tank) will cross over the entire patch until its all closed up. I can't see it physically attacking it, but something is obviously happening as the GSP doesn't want to open back up right away.

What should I do about rogue hermits?

Just walking over them shouldn't really be a problem unless it's being bothered by something else as well. However, most LFS will take a free hermit. I recently got rid of all my hermits by just giving a few away with each coral frag I sold to private buyers.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Eagerly awaiting critters from LiveAquaria today.

A Bluestripe Pipefish, some Ghost Pipeshrimp, and more Sexies.

I've spent time totally redoing my tank into a ornamental shrimp/pipefish/seahorsie paradise. Hope to get photos up soon.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

optikalus posted:

Have you bought from them before? I'm curious as to how well the stuff do in shipping from them. I bought from Drs. Foster & Smith before and shipping was amazing -- >100lbs of stuff for like $16 shipping.

I've currently got 2 sexies in my 24, but wouldn't mind a few more -- they're so awesome. I figure that they're hard enough to get that I'd hold off on getting any more so that other people can have their fun.

How do you plan on feeding your pipefish and seahorses? Are you going to dose copepods regularly or ? I'd love to have a 6g pico with a seahorse or two.

Liveaquaria is run by DrsF&S, and the shipping is good. I've ordered from them several times.

I now have 5 Sexies, the 3 Pipeshrimp that immediately buried themselves, and the Pipefish. The Pipefish is eagerly picking pods off my back wall as we speak. My tank has been up and running for a year before I got this guy, so it's pod city. I plan to start up a mysis hatchery within the next week or so as well.

I'm trying to get photos of the Pipefish, but he's only 2 inches long!

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Psimitry posted:

So I'm probably going to tear down and sell my setup. Not only would the extra cash be nice, but I can't get ahold on what the gently caress is going on in my tank. I just have an occasional coral that just decides its time to die and does it. My anemone has split like 4 times so I definitely have some sort of irritant in the water, but I don't know what it is. It's not a bug parasite, it's no water parameter that I can figure out, and everything else looks healthy.

It's just too loving frustrating. After losing my dendrophylia, a bunch of nice looking SPS I'm just going to stick my B&W clowns in my cube, move over my zoos and give up for a while.

Ugh, I felt the same way after my tank mini-cycled and I lost almost everything. :( Sometimes it's best to take a little break and start over when you get your confidence back.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Morbid Florist posted:

I just got a 14gal biocube but I have a couple of questions about putting things in it. I'm a salt guy from 10 years ago but things have really changed in a lot of ways and I'm relearning a bit. I don't need tips about starting it, but between this thread and that nano-reef site I seem to be part of a largely silent group of saltwater people.

I DON'T plan on getting any corals or sponges or even any delicate inverts. I really just want live rock (yes I know it has some of everything on it), some crabs, maybe a shrimp and a couple of gobies. End of story. If my rock comes alive with some corals, fantastic but they're not going to be added on purpose.

Guy at the store told me they've been running their biocubes loaded beyond where they should be and aside from water changes every 4-5 days, they run them totally stock. the nanoreef site talks about all these mods people do to them, additives I remember being only for reef setups, etc.

Should I have any problems running this little guy without loving with the filters in the back or needing an array of water additives?

For a FOWLR tank, stock lighting and filter should be fine, the only thing I'd say is to take out the bioballs in the back. You can also upgrade the pump or add something like a koralia powerhead to up the flow, if you like.

But honestly, for a bare-bones tank like you're describing, you should be fine running it stock.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Morbid Florist posted:

That bioball removal is another one I don't fully know why I should get behind it. I've read and understand the base reasoning, but not everything adds up. I've seen people say they replace them with other media, leave it wide open, throw a skimmer in it, etc.

Taking them out to reduce places for crap buildup, ok. But replacing it with something else isn't doing that, and I've seen it said you can rinse some of the bioballs periodically so you don't totally kill the bacteria but remove some of the poo poo.

They also say the carbon filters are useless. So now I'm hearing people say to essentially remove all the filters, and that makes NO sense.

I guess my main problem is a lack of faith that live rock alone will filter the tank...

I've run my tank for a year without any filter besides the liverock and a course sponge in the back to catch debris. :) I am getting a skimmer soon, but only because I want to keep sensitive seahorses.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Sixline Wrasse. They're so cute! :3:

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Morbid Florist posted:

REALLY! I'll look more into that little guy. Wrasses rule. :)

edit: boo it says it will go after slow fish (goby, correct?) and shrimp :(

http://www.nano-reef.com/fish/?fish=3

Huh, I've never known them to be aggressive, personally. Honestly it probably depends on what shrimp you have. I would expect them to pick on the tiny shrimp like Sexies, but something like a Cleaner Shrimp or a Fire Shrimp would be just as big as the wrasse!

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
My peppermint shrimp randomly croaked as well, I'm told they tend to do that. :(

Also hydroid jellies are so cute! Enjoy them while you can, because they seem to have a population explosion and then just kinda vanish.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
I've heard lots of good things about SeaLifeInc liverock, I say go for it. Seeing what comes out is the best part anyway!

Speaking of, I finally got my dwarf seahorses. Holy poo poo they are cute. Not only that, but one of them gave birth in the shipping bag, and now I have mini minis floating around. :psyduck:

Decapsulating brine eggs is a bitch. Will get photos of horsies soon.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

U.S. Barryl posted:

I think I'm gonna spend my tax returns on a saltwater setup. Buying all the components together seems to get ridiculously expensive. Does anybody have any opinions on the nano cube kits? I was thinking about getting this one:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18192&pvid=71049&productnum=0033096

Anything in particular I would need to add to that setup if I were to get one? I will be buying an RO/DI unit as well, so my initial expenses are already getting a little out of hand. I'm looking at near $1,000 without even getting to fish or live rock.

That's a good one, with that light you should be pretty unlimited in coral choices. The only thing I'd keep an eye on is those lamps tend to get pretty hot, so you might want to look into upgrading the fans in the hood.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Am I the only one slightly uncomfortable with the idea of collecting wild? On the other hand, even though I try to always buy captive-bred, I know some species are only wild-caught.

Though I suppose it's better to collect a single animal yourself than to buy the one that survived out of hundreds from the ocean to a LFS.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
And finally, some seahorse photos.

A newborn Dwarf Seahorse! So teeny!


A Seahorse riding a pencil urchin, with my Bluestripe Pipefish in the background.






Here's a Seahorse looking a little :downs:


This is my current desktop background. :3:


And also, my Harlequin shrimp.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Vigilantly Vigorous posted:

The harlequin shrimp are beautiful. Too bad I've only seen the red variety here.

Got mine from LiveAquaria. They actually have a mated pair for sale right now, and I'm very tempted, but I'm pretty close to my invert limit in my little tank.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

csammis posted:

Bah, my 10g is crashing and I'm not sure why. Over the past week both of my zoa frags have curled up and died, my mushrooms are looking pretty unhappy as well, and the water surface has developed an extremely noticeable film that a pair of Koralias aren't breaking up enough to be skimmed out. Water parameters are nominal except for slightly elevated nitrate that I've been combating with weekly water changes, but to no avail. I'm going to step it up to every-other-day changes and keep an eye on my cats to make sure they're not putting kitty-litter feet in the water :(

Hopefully the tank rights itself - there's very little in it right now so I'm not worried about losing denizens, but I'm moving fairly soon and I'd like to get it stabilized before that particular trauma.

Sounds similar to my 6.6 Gallon before it mini-cycled and I lost most of my livestock. I'd suggest doing more frequent changes, maybe even a daily change of a gallon or so, to see if that stops the crash. I used to remove surface film by quickly running an unbleached paper towel across the surface.

Good luck!

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Morbid Florist posted:

Do corals bounce back after a bit of a beating? I picked up some more live rock while I was there and a few pieces turned out to have seemingly wounded little corals on them. They still have color, but they're small and don't look so hot.

they're not big enough I'm worried about them killing the tank if they die, but I don't know if there's something I should/could do to salvage them.

I've seen corals make amazing comebacks before, so there's always a chance. You might consider dosing iodine, I've done that with wounded corals and anemones before.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

moechae posted:

Awesome, I'm definitely gonna try my hand a building a sump now. Any specific size I should go for considering my tank's going to be around 45-55 gallons, or is it pretty much whatever will fit under the tank?

Probably whatever you want, a lot of people use 20-29 gallon sumps under a 55.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
And if the firefish isn't eaten, expect it to commit suicide via carpet-surfing.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Morbid Florist posted:

Hmm that's not a bad idea. While we're on the subject of feeding, I hope someone can ID something for me. The fish store people use these crazy long eye droppers, almost like what you see people using in bio/genetics on TV, to get food to corals without arm-tanking or freaking out fish as much. I CANNOT find these goddamn things anywhere in life, let alone the internet. Best I can find are "long" eyedroppers but 2" isn't long to anything but an ant.

Where the hell can people get something like that besides pretending I'm the oldest college kid on campus and raid a biology classroom?

They call it a "Sea Squirt" feeder, made by Kent Marine.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

ludnix posted:

Isn't that just a skinny turkey baster or is there something I'm missing?

Pretty much, it's also extendable and has different tips you can use.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Hypnotized posted:

All the little starfish in my aquarium went crazy spawning last night. My tank had dozens of little piles of starfish all over. Here is one of the groups.


That is really cool, and cute! :3:

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you

Hypnotized posted:

Here are a few new photos:

Hand feeding my bumblebee




Aw I love these guys! I have one right now, and I'm getting two more. They're really full of character for shrimp. :3:

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Some more recent seahorsey goodness.




This is a baby Brazilian, a bit of a rescue after being sucked into a sump. We'll see how she does...



And my pipefish like to dance.

Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
Peppermints are experts at randomly dying.

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Aphelion Necrology
Jul 17, 2005

Take care of the dead and the dead will take care of you
I keep dwarf seahorses with no protein skimmer. I'm a daredevil. :smug:

I keep them with pipefish and a pygmy wrasse, as well as some sexy shrimp and other harmless inverts. I have a soda-bottle brine shrimp feeder, and they are fed daily.

So far they are thriving, and breeding.

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