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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Lester Shy posted:

I'm sure it varies, but in any given movie, about how much of the dialogue is from on-set audio and how much is ADR? You'll often see behind the scenes shots of an outdoor scene complete with a guy schlepping around a boom mic. Is that just to capture reference audio/ambient noise, or are those mics a lot better than I've imagined?

Different styles of microphones have different "cones" of direction in which they pick up audio. In many cases, the boom microphone is a shotgun, which is designed to pick up as little off-axis sound as possible. (They generally do have issues rejecting sounds along the bass spectrum, which is why they're less desirable for indoor usage.)

In short, it depends. In Ghostbusters, for example, almost the entire scene of Dana and Venkman outdoors by the fountains at Lincoln Center was looped in post-production because the fountains were so loud. (For a few close-up shots, the on-set audio was used because they were able to briefly turn off the fountains.)

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

MI:2 is pretty loving bad. Like it's a watchable bad action movie, but it's got John Woo's worst fingerprints all over it and its treatment of the female lead makes me uncomfortable.

Edit: let's just say that if you are familiar with Brandon Braga's work on Star Trek, the failings of the M:i-2 script should come as no surprise.

The issue with M:I2 is that Woo turned in a cut that was more than three hours long, and Paramount wound up bringing in Stuart Baird to do an emergency re-edit job to trim the length and still have it make a tiny bit of sense.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

There's a part in MI2 where the lovely Sean Bean doppelganger villain says something like, "You know how women are, they're like monkeys, always grabbing one branch before letting go of another" and it's like dude, that's a good thing, so they don't plummet to the bottom of the jungle floor and squish their spine like an accordion, you suck and your analogy sucks.

And now for your regularly scheduled reminder that last-minute re-shoots on M:I2 are the only reason we got Hugh Jackman as Wolverine instead of Dougray Scott.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Everblight posted:

Specifically, it's Live Free or Die Hard (5, the lovely father/son one).

I think that's A Good Day to Die Hard. Live Free or Die Hard was the one with Justin Long and Timothy Olyphant.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

He's not. He's also a climate change denier and is anti-environmentalism.

Was. He suffered from a slight case of death almost a decade ago.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Maxwell Lord posted:

I'm not sure about this since it's on the BR which is specifically the theatrical cut without any of the Director's Cut re-edits.

As released in 1979, The Motion Picture had the overture. It played over an empty screen. In the Director's Edition, they added the starfield.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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syscall girl posted:

That sounds like the movie I'm thinking of. Just picturing Aflac in the helicopter going all damnit I'm in a Tom Clancy novel

poo poo

All I remember about that movie is Clancy and his fans being infuriated that, like just a year after 9/11, the movie producers decided to change the villains from the Muslims they were in the book to neo-Nazis. Because I guess Clancy needed to see his Islamophobia on the big screen or whatever.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

I didn't say I don't respect him. I think Will Smith is great at what he does, but a part of what he does is maintaining a Will Smith persona that he brings to most of his characters. And no, he's not even close to the only person to do something like this. I don't care about Concussion, but I should probably watch Ali.

Concussion got pretty heavily sanitized in the rewriting stage but I think it's still worth watching. Ali is a stone-cold classic.

And really, if you want to talk about actors that just bring their own persona to their characters, then the textbook example is post-'80s Al Pacino.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Ego-bot posted:

Does anyone have any examples or stories of actors getting defensive about a bad performance or terrible movie they were in? Or directors admitting they made a terrible movie?

I know for directors there's people like Kevin Smith and M. NIght Shamylan who dug themselves in defending some of their movies, and there's a ton of actors who completely panned some of the stuff they've been in.

Ben Affleck and Ryan Reynolds were slamming Daredevil and Green Lantern the day they came out, basically. Spielberg threw Lucas under the bus on Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Tony Kaye disowned American History X after getting kicked out of the editing room. Bay literally called Revenge of the Fallen "crap."

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

It's worth remembering that "abide" doesn't mean enjoy or prosper, but rather tolerate or endure.

It can also mean to survive or remain, as in, "The memory of this person abides with us."

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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syscall girl posted:

When you see his name in the credits it's almost a spoiler because you know his character is gonna have horrible horrible unspeakable things happen to him and he's going to mix whimpering with screaming.

It was kind of weird seeing him play against type in both Daredevil and on ER.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Is it fascism yet posted:

What are some good action movies with easy to understand dialogue. I`m tutoring this 13yo kid and want to give him something to watch. hes really bad at english so i will give him subtitled versions, which only works with sparse dialogue.


So far i`m thinking:
mad max fury road
die hard
aliens
dredd
the matrix (has too much dialogue but none of it matters)

A martial arts film would be cool? Are there any with non-lovely english dubs?

Not an action movie, per se, but Vertigo is remarkably effective for having so little dialogue.

Leone's spaghetti westerns qualify, too.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I was reading an interview with some animation director the other day (probably Bakshi but I'm not 100%) and he said that one of his films has so many cuts that there's G, PG-13, M and R cuts floating around out there.

Bakshi would make sense, considering he made loving Fritz the Cat.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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spooky like this! posted:

A lot of silent movies of that era are just gone, either through the film stock degrading or purposeful destruction by the studios themselves. Nobody really cared about preserving movies in the early days of film.

Film preservation was a bad joke until the late '70s, really.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Is Bad Santa 2 going to be a good movie?

Ask yourself how many good comedy sequels there have ever been.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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donquixotic posted:

I've tried googling this to no avail. I've been watching Star Trek TOS and Kirk (maybe others I'm not sure) frequently is shot with his face in shadow and only his eyes lit up, it's jarring in some scenes where Kirk is talking to someone and it goes from a fully lit face to Kirk's mostly in shadow face and I can't think of a single reason for it

The original series used a lot of theatrical-esque lighting (the women actors were frequently shot with the focus just a bit soft with one direct light source, and a lot of rimlighting).

They were also careful with how they shot Shatner because 1) they didn't want to show his toupee and 2) his weight was constantly fluctuating throughout the show's entire run.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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donquixotic posted:

Ahahaha that makes so much sense in hindsight it's like Hasselhoff sucking in his gut and getting favourable angles but with Shatner (I'm still on the first series) it looks really weird. Thanks for the explanation, much of it I can attribute to well it's the 60s

Color TV was also really, really new when TOS was being made, so the directors and the cinematographer (Jerry Finnerman on the first two seasons) liked to get creative with color and lighting.

As for Shatner, according to Bob Justman he only had "a few odd tufts" of hair on the top of his head when they were shooting the second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before." Shatner was always incredibly sensitive about that (and he eventually started wearing a girdle early on during production of the second season when Justman and Roddenberry realized he simply would not control his weight).

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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victorious posted:

I'm looking for examples of scenes that start with shots of empty landscape/wilderness, then a character's boot steps into frame and stops as he/she surveys the scene. Something similar to the opening shot of Raiders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm380-dlycM), but focused more just on ground level. Anyone got any ideas? I think the idea tends to lend itself to Westerns but there may well be other examples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mg7qKstnPk

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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As I recall, all three movies were absolute hell for Michael J. Fox, because he'd go straight from rehearsing and shooting Family Ties and start working on the BTTF sets, and vice versa.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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got any sevens posted:

Maybe Wrath of Khan ending

That ... doesn't happen in that movie.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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SimonCat posted:

Is Alien:Covenant going to be Prometheus 2 or is that going to be a different movie?

Covenant is Prometheus 2, yes -- both Fassbender and Rapace are in it, and the gimmick is that Covenant is the ship that finds Shaw's tracking signal.

There was a lot of talk about it being a trilogy, but I think Scott is re-thinking a lot of those commitments (like handing Blade Runner 2 over to Villeneuve) because of his age.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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regulargonzalez posted:

Say what you will about 3d in post, but Jurassic Park is the best 3d movie I've seen and I've seen most of them.

It's still an absolute travesty that the utterly gorgeous new transfer of the film that was done for the 3D Blu-ray release is only available on that 3D Blu-ray. C'mon, Universal, you fuckers, put that onto a normal Blu-ray for the rest of us.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Maxwell Lord posted:

I've seen that in TV movies- and if this was San Francisco International there may have been a backdoor pilot situation.

I think Dame Judith Anderson has a "special appearance by" credit on Star Trek III, but that may have been a condition of getting her to show up for her one day of work.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

God, I hate that movie.

It's easily Soderbergh's worst movie and it wins that race by a country mile.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Chris Meloni?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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got any sevens posted:

The tagline is 'the final adventure begins' so it might bot be the final movie

In fairness, "A Generation's Final Journey Begins" was the tagline for Star Trek: Nemesis.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Happy Hippo posted:

It sounds like it may be Pirates Part 5: Part One, but I'm too lazy too google it

Everything I've read suggests that Disney's growing increasingly concerned about Depp's movies costing a poo poo-ton of money (they're still sore about the Lone Ranger flop), and because it took so long to get this movie made, they're not guaranteeing another one. If they do make a sixth, it'll probably focus on Orlando Bloom's son instead of Jack Sparrow.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Egbert Souse posted:

Weird that they're using a disc since Janus Films has a DCP for it.

Since it's a local theater, they may or may not have gotten permission for a theatrical exhibition. :ssh:

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:

2 questions:

1. Are there any sword-n-sorcery movies that come even kinda close to Conan the Barbarian? Even the sequel doesn't scratch the same itch.

Its quality is pretty much dependent upon whether or not you like Boorman's style, but Excalibur was the first thing that came to mind.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Your Gay Uncle posted:

When people get replaced in a movie (like the new Han Solo movie) how do they go about the credits? Do you have to be a part of the movie for a certain amount of time before you can get credited or do they just give it to whomever replaced you?

Richard Lester had to re-shoot about 50 percent of Superman II in order to get credit over Donner.

The DGA arbitration on Han Solo is going to be nuts.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Wrong thread

Timby fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Aug 17, 2017

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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VideoGames posted:

Oh my word. Maybe it's just Orson Welles talking that I am looking for because I could read endlessly those sort of anecdotes.

Thank you both for the suggestions!

My Lunches with Orson is also amazing because Henry Jaglom is clearly full of hero worship for Welles, hanging on his every single word. "Oh, yes, Orson, that's right." "Oh, Orson, that would be a perfect idea." "Orson, I've no idea why no one listened to you." And so on.

Yet Welles has nothing but absolute disdain for Jaglom, clearly regarding him as a worthless hanger-on. The dripping scorn he feels for him is almost palpable from the pages.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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EL BROMANCE posted:

I can particularly recommend the episode where he has Stephen Fry on, and they don't have an audience and it's just the two of them in conversation for the episode. Craig was the king, I still keep meaning to go back and watch the tons of episodes I didn't catch at the time.

His new show on Sirius XM, well I guess not new since it started back in like April, is basically the same thing minus the visual gags, too.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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credburn posted:

I saw It Follows and it's probably my favorite movie I've seen in decades. It scratches an itch that too few movies do, or at least well, which is basically observing people in a very bizarre situation with high, or life-or-death stakes. Does anyone have recommendations for films like this? Like, other ones I can think of are Saw, Phone Booth, The Circle, Cube, Would You Rather?...most of them are not done very well, though. I'm not looking for torture porn, per se, or some ridiculous evil bad guy or evil spirit. It Follows has the most minimal of plots, but is such a good execution, otherwise. I guess most of these fall into horror, but...I'm not even sure how to describe this.

You've seen everything I'd recommend, I think ... As I understand it, you're looking for existential dread.

There are a lot of episodes of Black Mirror that might scratch your itch.

"Bizarre situation with high stakes" also pretty much sums up In Bruges, and everyone should watch In Bruges.

Also, have you seen Panic Room? Incredibly underrated Fincher movie.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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There's a lot to like about it, but it needs to be viewed as an entirely different beast than the original with Paul Muni, which I feel is significantly better (though admittedly I'm a sucker for George Raft performances).

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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feedmyleg posted:

In what horror films do characters order pizza?

So far I've got Slumber Party Massacre, House 4, Nightmare on Elm Street 4, and House of the Devil.

Don't they have pizza at Billy's house in Scream?

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Man Musk posted:

I can't believe it's been almost 1 year since the release of La La Land (Damian Chazelle, 2016)

That's almost 365 days of sun

Criterion when ?

I'm still pissed that Sing Street got hosed at the Oscars for that.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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Snak posted:

Based on James Cameron's later submersible-based exploits, can we assume that Ed Harris punching him taught Cameron the importance of safety?

At last report he was having child actors on Avatar 2 being trained to hold their breath underwater for as long as three minutes, so... No.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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EL BROMANCE posted:

I think I’m kind of relieved he’s just working on projects I don’t care about at all these days. If he came back and did a Ridley Scott to the Terminator franchise, I think that’d be the final nail in the coffin.

He's writing and producing the next Terminator movie (Tim Miller directing).

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Timby
Dec 23, 2006

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504 posted:

As opposed to.. not.. having them trained?

CHILD actors.

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