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Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Shatter Map posted:

The scene in American Beauty where Kevin Spacey slams the asparagus plate against the wall. Does anyone else like to point out/marvel at how he managed to perfectly stick a lemon slice above the picture frame? I bet he couldn't have done that again if he tried 100 more times.

Sorry I couldn't find a screen cap :(

That reminds me - there's this scene in Casino where Joe Pesci gets pissed off and flips one of his cards at the dealer, which ends up stuck to the front of the dealer's shirt. Was that scripted or a complete accident that they decided to keep in the movie?

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Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Is there, or will there be a release of There Will Be Blood in a real DVD case, instead of the craptastic cardboard case it was initially released in? Love the movie, but the DVD case sucks. I would have paid more for the "Special Edition" they had at Wal-Mart when I bought the movie but even that had the cardboard case.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

We Are Citizen posted:

As far as I know, the Special Edition is the only version in a cardboard case. The bare-bones version is in a regular plastic one.

I don't think I have the special edition - it's just a single disc and I know for sure I saw two versions available, both of which had a cardboard case. Additionally, the 2-disc special edition has different cover art (a shot of Plainview looking down into an oil well) whereas my copy has a head shot of Plainview.

Guess I'll just keep hoping they re-release it with a better case.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Dacap posted:

Try Blockbuster. When I worked there, often DVDs in special cases had rental versions in standard plastic amrays so you might be able to get one previously viewed. Non standard cases tended to confuse people :eng99:

Thanks, that's a worthwhile idea. :)

In the meantime - I've got another question I'm going to throw out there. I just watched Backdraft and I was wondering - how did they film the fire sequences with the actors? You see multiple scenes with them in the middle of burning buildings and it's obvious they're not stunt doubles. IMDB claims that Kurt Russell, William Baldwin and Scott Glenn were credited as stunt personnel because the stunt coordinator thought they did a great job - I just would have thought that would be a huge liability issue if they hosed up and got burned or something. Some of those sequences like the collapsing roof look like they could have easily gone wrong.

Do actors performing their own stunts sign a waiver saying they won't sue the studio if they get hurt?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Ape Agitator posted:

I won't speak about the legal ramifications of actors doing their stunts (but I assume that the lawyers do make them sign liability waivers) but I remember that the special effects and pyro work in Backdraft was pretty incredible. They were supposedly able to repeat a lot of the apparantly catastrophic stuff and had fine control of the fire effects so they could do amazing stuff with people right there.

Good point. :)

I *was* impressed by some of the effects they pulled off like the aforementioned collapsing roof and the barrels exploding and shooting straight into the air during the climactic chemical plant fire.

Any chance a mod can sticky this thread? This is like the 4th "movie questions" thread I've seen since I've been here (including one I started) and they seem to get a reasonable amount of posts, so it'd be nice to have it around for these little questions that don't deserve a whole new thread.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

space-man posted:

In the first scene of Boondock Saints, the preacher is talking about the idleness of good men. The two brothers get up and kiss the statue and walk out (the visiting minister or whatever tries to stop them but is stopped..).

They walk outside and they look at eachother and say "I think he is beginning to get it".

What just happened?

The priest was talking about fearing the indifference of good men, and not just fearing evil. In other words - we should be afraid of the evil caused by good people who DON'T do anything to stop evil through their indifference.

He used the real-life example of Kitty Genovese to illustrate this - no one helped her even though she got stabbed to death in public. There were plenty of people who heard her screaming and could have done something.

The brothers were commenting on the fact that he understands that point, as opposed to just preaching against evil in general. Just talking about not doing evil is one thing - it's another thing to act to prevent evil from being done instead of standing by and letting it happen.

Encryptic fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Sep 11, 2008

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

space-man posted:

I get that.

I mean why were they allowed to walk up there without being stopped.

The way they comment seems to imply that the preacher is beginning to understand their actions (ie the minister understands why they kill mobsters), but this makes no sense unless this takes place later chronologically.

OK - I see. Not sure about the altar thing - guess it's supposed to be implied that they're well-known for being religious or something before the killing sprees, so it's OK if they walk up there. Agent Smecker (Willem Dafoe's character) tells the cops at the police department "the general consensus from the neighbors is that they're angels" after bitching the cops out for leaking the story about the dead Russians in the alley.

I suppose it's not implausible to posit that they already had the concept of "fearing the indifference of good men" in their minds before the priest gave his sermon about it - it wasn't until the Russians muscled in on their local bar that they got the inspiration to act on it, it seems.

And here I have no idea why I'm reading so deeply into loving Boondock Saints of all movies.

Encryptic fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Sep 11, 2008

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

space-man posted:

Thanks, I guess its one of those small things thats always bugged me... also whats wrong with Boondock Saints? :(

It's a fun popcorn flick and Willem Dafoe is loving hilarious, but it's not some incredibly deep meditation on vigilante justice or something. It's still incredible how Troy Duffy managed to run everything into the ground by being a jackass.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

I watched There Will Be Blood again recently and it occurs to me: What exactly happened during the oil rig fire scene?

- Did they hit a natural gas vein or something in the area where they were drilling for oil? Some guy screams "It's gas! It's gas!" and everyone runs away but they never elaborate on what exactly happened.

- What happened to make H.W. deaf? The pressure of the gas shooting out of the ground around him burst his eardrums?

- Why did the oil rig catch on fire? Did the gas react with the outside air and spontaneously ignite or something?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

We Are Citizen posted:

So do you think it is possible for Hollywood to make a good movie about terrorism that isn't racist? If so, how? If not, then how is it fair to call most Hollywood terrorism movies racist if they are already as non-racist as it is possible for them to be without sucking?

There are other terrorist groups in history and the world today that aren't Arabic that have had movies made about them (see: Michael Collins and The Wind That Shakes The Barley - both about the IRA).

Admittedly, neither of those qualifies as a major Hollywood terrorist movie.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Since I just bought a copy of The Way of the Gun (haven't seen it since it came out) I was wondering - what's Christopher McQuarrie been doing since that came out?

He's credited as a writer on Valkyrie (is that ever coming out or did Tom Cruise sink that ship?) and has another movie listed in pre-production on IMDB (not that that means much, apparently) but that's it - nothing else for the last 7-8 years.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

KaLogain posted:

When your drilling for oil or gas, you can get what is called a kick where gas is coming from formation/ground into your well at a very high pressure. Now we use rotary drilling with a "mud" in the well to help control pressure, think like a drill bit on a hand drill. Gas is also a product of the processes that create oil. It was such a high pressure underground that it just made a really loud noise when it came out that made him deaf. In that type of situation any little spark can catch the gas on fire and make it explode.

Heh - I actually forgot I had even posted this. Thanks for the answers, both of you. :)

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

h_double posted:

I think it's fairly obvious, both as a literal statement (which makes a grimly hilarious punchline to the movie), and more broadly about how the "progress" of industry carries a human cost.

There also seems to be a Biblical meaning to it - though I'm not familiar enough with the Bible to be sure.


I'm in the middle of watching Unforgiven and I was thinking - what are some other "must-see" Westerns out there? I've seen a number of the well-known ones and enjoyed them (Tombstone, Dances With Wolves, Leone's Man With No Name trilogy, The Magnificent Seven, etc.) but I know there's others out there that are well-regarded.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

feedmyleg posted:

I'm certainly not an expert on classic Westerns, but I really like the modern, gritty Westerns like The Proposition and the series Deadwood.

Yeah, I forgot to mention I've seen The Proposition and liked that as well. I've also seen Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - great movie.

Been meaning to get a hold of Deadwood on DVD - I've heard enough about it to figure I'd probably like it. I didn't get HBO until well after the series ended.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

drat, guess I opened up a big :can: here with an innocent question about Westerns.

Thanks for the helpful suggestions, though. :)

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

DrVenkman posted:

For the guy that asked about Christopher McQuarrie earlier in the thread. Basically he spent all that time being a script doctor. It's pretty much a given that he did work on all Bryan Singer's films and was just employed as a general re-writer. They also earn a fortune from it (See also, Frank Darabont and yes it's true, Carrie Fisher).

Well, at least he's working.


New question: When does Denis Leary appear in the director's cut of Natural Born Killers? I just watched it again the other night and the text on the back of the DVD case that talks about the extra crap in the director's cut mentions something about Denis Leary's part that was put back in as well.

I've seen the theatrical cut many times (saw it in the theater and my brother had it on VHS for a while) before I bought a copy of the director's cut on DVD a while back so I recognize a lot of stuff that was added in but I don't remember seeing Denis Leary when I watched it last night. One of those "blink and you'll miss it" scenes?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

SubG posted:

Just before the prison interview sequence, I think. It's just him in a cell ranting about Mickey and Mallory. I think it's intercut with a bunch of other talking head clips, like the Steven Wright bits.

Ah, that explains why I would've missed it then. Thanks.


Since I was reading the "cinematic garbage" thread and somebody admitted to owning all 7 Children of the Corn movies - I just have to wonder: Does this direct-to-video crap actually make any money? Is there really an audience for it, or is it just some kind of tax write-off strategy for some people (invest in lovely movie production, declare a loss on your taxes)?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Ape Agitato posted:

DTV is pretty profitable. Braindead horror sells in every country (like action) because it crosses cultural boundaries just fine. They don't have to waste money on advertising like you'd have to with theatrical releases and can instead rely on rental agreements and television deals. And with the Sci-Fi channel's (and some up and coming competitors) voracious appetite for a new bad film every week, there's a near guaranteed home for lots of them.

And there's a near infinite demand for horror. Horror fans will eat nearly anything up in the search for hidden gems. Even when it's bad it can be enjoyable as you can always appreciate the effects. CGI has gotten cheap enough that when you set the bar low enough it isn't a super strain on the budget and can still pass muster.

BooDoug187 posted:

And often times a DTV gets some kind of theater release either in the states or in other parts of the world. So the people who made the movie gets some kind of money, just like multi-million dollar prices.

This is interesting stuff, thanks. I don't watch a lot of horror myself aside from some of the classics like old school Cronenberg, the Evil Dead trilogy, etc. and some of the more well-known movies in the genre, so I didn't realize it was that big of a market.

Since we're on the topic though - I've got a dumb question about Cube since I happened to see it the other night. How did Holloway know so much about Quentin? There's a scene where they're arguing and she blurts out something about "liking little girls too much" or something and Quentin says she knew too much about him.

Worth reveals that he designed the cube's outer shell and implies that the cube is some kind of government experiment, so I'm wondering what we're to infer from Holloway's comments - is she supposed to be a government plant who knows more than she's telling?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Ape Agitator posted:

She's likely been observing how he's been eyeing Leaven. She's a cynic and a conspiracy nut distrustful of people in power. It's probably not a stretch for her to call a cop interested in a teenager a closet pedo.

Good point. And once again you come to the rescue to save me from ignorance. :)

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Rake Arms posted:

She also turns out to be correct. After Holloway dies, Quentin tries to screw Leaven.

Yeah - I didn't read that much into it when I watched it the other night. I guess I was overthinking it a bit. That explanation makes a lot more sense.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

In the middle of watching Guilty By Suspicion (1991 flick with Robert De Niro about the Red Scare in 1950s Hollywood) and I just had a question about the MPAA's rating system. I seem to remember hearing somewhere that a PG-13 movie is allowed to use "gently caress" maybe once or twice at the most, provided that it's not in a sexual context, otherwise it gets the R rating.

The movie in question is rated PG-13 and I've heard "gently caress" numerous times already. Just wondering how that could have slipped past the MPAA - did the director have pull with someone or are there extenuating circumstances for when a movie can get a lower rating?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Armyman25 posted:

In Animal House, what was up with the headline "Dean's wife to vacation in Florida" after she sleeps with the student. Did she go for an abortion or something?

I always took it to mean she went to a dry out farm because she had a drinking problem.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Watching Total Recall again and I've wondered about this 500 times: In the scene with the Rekall salesman trying to sell the woman on a Rekall trip, is the TV playing footage of Arnold working out?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Binowru posted:

Just re-watched this scene on my DVD. They never show the dude's face, and the IMDb trivia section doesn't say anything about it, so I'm leaning towards probably not

Yeah, that's what I figured after re-watching the parts where you can see the screen in the background as well. Would be an interesting little WTF moment if it WAS him, since the movie plays around with whether the main plot was real or not.

Encryptic fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Sep 28, 2009

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

twistedmentat posted:

There is probably a page with this, or i could do painstaking research and figure it out, but are there any examples of movies made in my life time that have kids in them that became stars later on?

Some I know are Elija Wood in Back to the Future 2, Alicia Witt in Dune, Eliza Duskhu in True likes and Thora Birch in Patroit Games.

Sean Astin and Josh Brolin in The Goonies.

A bit of a stretch here as far as being "stars", but Jerry O'Connell and Corey Feldman in Stand By Me.

Edit: Leo DiCaprio in What's Eating Gilbert Grape?

Encryptic fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Feb 12, 2010

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Thought of another one - Matt Damon in the 80s Julia Roberts movie Mystic Pizza, long before Good Will Hunting put him on the map.

Funnily enough, I just checked IMDB to find out when that movie came out and Josh Brolin happens to pop up on the front page since it's his birthday.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

mojo1701a posted:

And Donald Pleasance in You Only Live Twice, and then again in Diamonds are Forever.


I always thought that Diamonds are Forever was pretty good. I think it's stigmatized because of the ridiculousness of the plot, along with the fact that it's one of the first movies that nails the Bond formula.

But since it stars Sean Connery, all is forgiven.

Charles Gray played Blofeld in Diamonds are Forever and played Henderson, Bond's Japan contact in You Only Live Twice. I don't recall Donald Pleasence was in DAF, though.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Howards Bellend posted:

If there was continuity in Bond he'd have to be, what, in his seventies by now? At least that...

Not to mention dying of cirrhosis/lung cancer and bedridden from all the physical activity wearing his body out prematurely. Not to mention bankrupt from paying child support to 500 random women who tracked him down after he knocked them up (unless part of the benefit of being James Bond is shooting blanks in bed)

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Liberty Valance posted:

I just watched The Proposition. I liked it, and thought it was beautifully filmed, but I had a hard time swallowing the ending. When Guy Pearce's character kills his nephew and his brother at the end, it seems to come out of nowhere. His younger brother is already dead, so it doesn't do him any good to kill his brother; in fact it would seem like he'd want to see revenge enacted against the captain, since he broke the deal. I understand that he's supposed to have evolved and that he's rejecting the dark side of his nature, but I never saw much evidence of his evolution as a character leading up to this point.. Am I missing something?

Yeah, I may be in the minority here for agreeing with you. It has a lot going for it - cinematography, casting, etc. But it just seems a bit lacking in real character development - especially Guy Pearce and Danny Huston both seem to be really in need of more screentime to expand on their characters or whatever central ideas Cave/Hillcoat were trying to get at.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Just watched Winter's Bone. Still trying to figure out the bit where Ree has to cut her dad's hands off, but she's told that she has to have both hands otherwise the cops will think her dad cut one hand off to avoid prison. What exactly does that mean - something to do with not having a full set of fingerprints?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

LesterGroans posted:

Both hands is probably more conclusive proof that he's dead. If he was desperate enough he could easily just lop a hand off and give it to her, but cops are probably far less willing to believe the guy would cut both of his hands off just to avoid prison time.

Ahhhh. Good point. Thanks.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

twistedmentat posted:

I forgot about the PS boob jobs.

I'm trying to remember movies were effects are really obvious. I don't mean bad CGI or monster suits, I mean like the control rod in the alien in Spaceballs.

There's at least one movie where steam comes out of a characters "ears" but you can clearly see the tubes behind his ears.

The signs that Pee-Wee drives past in Pee-Wee's Big Adventure - you can see the rails they're moving on in at least one shot.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Going to get around to watching Blade Runner soon. The version in my Netflix queue says it has both theatrical and director's cuts - which one is recommended?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Thanks for the input - apparently Netflix has the final cut as well so I'll watch that.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

What's the song that plays over the opening of The Bank Job?

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

therattle posted:

I thought it was about a man engaged in a bitter Intellectual Property dispute.

I thought it was going to be about a guy who everyone thinks is just a nerdy network administrator, but actually jumps into the server closet in order to transform into a superhero known as IP Man.

Announcer voiceover: "It began as a simple IP address conflict on the network...that exploded into a threat to the very core of the Internet. Only one man can stop it...*dramatic fanfare*...IP MAN. Coming to theaters in Summer 2011."

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

JebanyPedal posted:

Thanks for the help though guys, and I had no idea about Sam Raimi's reoccurring car! I just noticed that it's present in pretty much the entire Evil Dead series.

It also shows up in Darkman during the helicopter scene and in the Spiderman movies, I believe.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

I just watched Django and really liked it - what are some other great spaghetti Westerns out there (preferrably available on Netflix)? Netflix has a number of Django "sequels" but I have no idea if they're as well-regarded as the original.

I've seen all of Leone's Westerns with the exception of Duck, You Sucker, which I'll probably have Netflix send me next.

Encryptic
May 3, 2007

morestuff posted:

Duck, You Sucker is on Instant Watch. I've been meaning to check it.

Yeah, my computer is fairly old so streaming doesn't work very well (I've got broadband so that's not an issue). Planning on upgrading soon or possibly getting an XBox + new TV.

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Encryptic
May 3, 2007

Robokomodo posted:

Doesn't Marty say it when he drives into the 1955 barn?

I'm pretty sure he says it when the Libyans start shooting at him, but I may be completely misremembering that.

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