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SkunkDuster posted:There was some thread about bad actors or something and somebody mentioned that they felt that Sharon Stone completely ruined Casino. I don't think it was a problem with her acting, but in the character and whole subplot. It seems to me the whole love story could be completely removed and trim an hour of useless crap to cut the movie down from three hours to a more accessible two hour experience. She started loving Joe Pesci and caused a lot of drama there. It's safe to say that the bosses back home probably would have ended up whacking Joe Pesci, Sharon Stone and possibly De Niro if they had ever found out what was going on. There's one point in the movie where Pesci's buddy Frank Marino has to lie to the bosses back home about whether Pesci is loving De Niro's wife and it's pretty clearly stated in a voice-over that everyone involved could have ended up dead if he'd told the truth. The whole point was for De Niro to be the front man and keep things low-profile, after all - having his wife loving someone else is only going to cause trouble.
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# ¿ May 5, 2011 19:32 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 05:43 |
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Watching Punisher: War Zone. What's up with
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2011 20:14 |
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Barometer posted:He's "fixing" his broken nose by resetting it. Tough guy style. Gotcha. I must have missed the nose-breaking part. Thanks.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2011 21:07 |
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feedmyleg posted:What, exactly, in Total Recall was meant to make me think that it was real? Just the 2 or 3 weird looks that his wife/co-worker/Rekall salesman give before he goes under? Because it seems pretty definitive to me that it wasn't. Especially the fact that he saw Melina on the screen in the doctor's office before he went under, saw photos of the reactor, the doctor's comment of "blue sky on mars? that's a new one," the spelling out of the plot by Edgemar, etc - just too much evidence stacked on the side of it being his Rekall vacation/vacation gone wrong. People seem to talk about it like it's ambiguous, but it really doesn't seem like that to me. Which is a shame, because I think it would be a better film it it as. There's a pretty strong hint that it may be real (or not real?) - during the Rekall scene, McClane (the sales guy) gets paged back to the implantation room where Quaid is freaking the gently caress out after Dr. Lull supposedly hit a memory cap. McClane claims he's just acting out the secret agent portion of the Ego Trip - only to be told by Dr. Lull that that isn't possible since they haven't even implanted it yet. Also, Quaid dreams about Melina before he even goes to Rekall. You can see her face briefly during the opening scene before Quaid falls down the cliff, and Quaid even tells Edgemar that he dreamt about her before he went to Rekall, which he claims proves that she's real. Edit: Finally - why would Edgemar be sweating if he wasn't real and clearly desperate to talk Quaid into taking the pill? He claims it won't matter to him but it will gently caress Quaid up for good if he shoots Edgemar - which doesn't jibe with him sweating. Encryptic fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Aug 2, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 05:36 |
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Zogo posted:The one guy was sweating. He wouldn't have been nervous if he was imaginary. "Lori says he can't remember jack poo poo!" "That's now. In an hour he could have total recall."
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 05:46 |
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feedmyleg posted:Those make a certain amount of sense, but I think that the "I haven't implanted it yet" could definitely be part of the simulation to further make him think that it's real (hell, from his point of view that's what would convince me the most, so it would naturally be part of the simulation). Good point with the dreams about Melina before he went in, but I think the Edgemar sweating situation could be another thing that's put into the simulation to further convince Quaid it's all real as the simulation nears its end. Yeah - I've seen it 500 times and it still just rings as ambiguous to me. There's compelling arguments for both sides and I'm of the mind it was intended to be that way. I just remembered one other thing. The screen fades to white briefly at the end right after Melina says "Kiss me quick before you wake up" - I swear I read somewhere that this could be implied as Quaid finally succumbing to a schizoid embolism or being lobotomized.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 05:58 |
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feedmyleg posted:I believe Verhoeven mentions the possibility explicitly in the Making Of. Yeah...it's interesting. I'm still trying to puzzle out the Edgemar being real versus a simulation thing since you mentioned it. One touch I remember always liking is Edgemar's line about "the walls of reality will come crashing down" and then a minute later the guys burst through the wall. It does seem a bit scripted now that I think back to it, but you could also argue the guys could have been real and stationed on the other side of the wall ready to bust through if things went sour. I just watched TR about 2-3 weeks ago so it was fresh in my mind, but I may have to watch it again. "Congratulations, Cohaagen. The best mindfuck yet."
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 07:17 |
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feedmyleg posted:I think that after re-watching it this time I've come away with an opinion that not a lot of people have. I don't think it's real, I don't think it's Quaid having a bad reaction to the implants, and I don't think he gets lobotomized at the end. I think the entire thing is the vacation, exactly how Rekall wanted it. I think the white screen at the end is him waking up from a successful vacation - or rather, his secret agent character is having a lobotomy, turning him back into the original Quaid. Him having to question the reality of it at the end with Edgemar could have been him getting used to the idea of the simulation again before he wakes up. Keep in mind that the movie ends right after "blue skies" comes true - which is pretty much the only thing we know about what Quaid's vacation is going to contain. In thinking about this more - it occurs to me that another issue that muddies the "real versus reel" waters is that we see bits of the movie where Quaid could not possibly be present at all (e.g. Cohaagen talking to Richter in his office, etc.). It seems to imply that Richter and Cohaagen at least could theoretically exist outside of Quaid's mind. In another scene where Quaid is not present, Richter is clearly shown as having an outside motivation for wanting to kill Quaid instead of just being a scripted bad guy intended to make Quaid/Hauser's defection look real. Go figure... <--- I need a Total Recall psypop emote here.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2011 14:54 |
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MisterBibs posted:I fear this will be seen as a "lawl im drunk kk" post, but despite my current intoxication, I feel I am required to ask: You watched the hallowed Point Break while intoxicated? Shame on you.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2011 09:07 |
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Who narrated the opening of Drive Angry - William Fichtner? I can't find anything on IMDB and my Google-fu is weak. On a similar note - what was the first movie that did the cliched "guy walking away from an explosion in the background" shot?
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2011 20:20 |
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Zogo posted:Then bring back a live pig temporarily fused with the T-800? "Your bacon. Give it to me. Now."
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 02:20 |
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The Cameo posted:I still remember being called a misogynist for noting that this particular scene is a bit of a jump for her character, who for the entire movie predicates every word and action she makes on the potential harm or protection it can give to her child. It's not that I don't see the grander scheme in her head - kill Dyson > stop Cyberdyne from creating Skynet > change the future so John never has to fight - but for someone who was breaking out of an asylum (after essentially debasing herself and the reality she knows is coming to pass didn't work) just so she can see, be with, and protect her son, her taking off on her own just strikes me as incongruous with what Cameron had written her as. In reading this, a thought occurred to me. For the sake of not confusing this, I'm pretending that the Terminator series stopped with T2. Theoretically, shouldn't Arnold cease to exist as soon as they drop the hand and the microchip into the molten steel? He points out that there's still one chip left in his head and he has to be destroyed too, but that chip would never have been created in the first place if the original hand and chip hadn't survived - and since they're now destroyed, his existence in their time period should not be possible anymore.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 15:33 |
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scary ghost dog posted:Time isn't a loop, when you send someone back into the past they don't go to your past, they go to a new past that now has them in it. You can't change the present, just someone else's future. Thanks - I'm still turning it over in my mind but that's a pretty solid explanation.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2011 16:36 |
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morestuff posted:This is a consistent problem with the franchise. Have Barbara Broccoli call me when the movies are slower-paced and give painstaking background on everything James Bond does. I'm almost afraid to ask what the script would look like. I figure there would be 50 pages of Bond writing out and mailing child support checks, arguing with his latest hookup about whether that was a wart on his dong and being sent to sensitivity training after his latest innuendo-filled exchange with Moneypenny.
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2011 14:20 |
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LesterGroans posted:Basically this. It costs a few bucks to rent a movie anyway. If you feel like you'll use it for at least three movies a month you'll be ahead. The selection, while by no means expansive, is certainly eclectic and if you can't find a new release you want to watch there will almost certainly be an older or more obscure gem. Yeah, exactly. I use Netflix's DVD rental almost exclusively for older and lesser-known stuff. The recommendation engine is really nice for this - I've seen a poo poo-ton of movies I didn't know existed. I'll say that the streaming selection is getting better all the time however - even though I'm limited by my hearing problem to only stuff that has subtitles, I've still got over 100 titles in my streaming queue. I was loving floored the other day when I found Michael Mann's The Keep on streaming with subtitles, for instance. (I had been meaning to see it for a while but the DVD is out of print/not subbed) Kunzelman posted:I've had two out of the last three blu rays be scratched, and one was unplayable. Had a DVD about a month ago come with a gigantic "crack" in it, then I just sent back one last week with the same problem. I don't know how the gently caress people do this poo poo to DVDs. Do they just figure "gently caress it, it's a rental" and proceed to spike the loving thing into the ground like they just won the Super Bowl? Had kind of bad luck with that recently but considering the DVD turnover rate with me, I'm not really complaining much about Netflix since they are on-the-motherfucking-ball with customer service every time I've had a problem. They sent me replacements right away after I filled out the complaint form and I love the fact that they email you every time they ship or receive a DVD. Encryptic fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Sep 5, 2011 |
# ¿ Sep 5, 2011 15:12 |
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SaintFu posted:The Netflix recommendation engine is usually pretty good. Yeah, that is true. I've rated 1295 movies so far (yeah, I know that's probably small-time compared to some CD regulars) and it still trips up now and then. For whatever reason, the suggestions for Action and Horror still ask me to rate more even though I've seen a number of both recently.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2011 16:25 |
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Riptor posted:Netflix instant is particularly good for TV shows too, since you never have to go through that rigamarole of "send away for disc 1 of show x, send it back, wait for disc 2, repeat" Preaching to the choir here. I burned through a shitload of TV over the last month including 4 seasons of Weeds, 2 seasons of Parks and Recreation and the first season of Archer. TV is officially ruined for me...
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2011 12:52 |
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MisterBibs posted:Netflix thingie-boober For a moment, I thought you meant there was a Netflix feature that lets you search for boobs shown in movies (sort of like the website from Knocked Up) and I got excited. Dammit. Netflix finally fails me.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2011 09:01 |
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Is that rapid-fire "fanning" motion (not sure if there's a real name for it) you see in just about every gunfight in a Western actually based in reality or do they just do it because it looks badass when you can plug 3 guys in as many seconds with a six-shooter? (see: the opening of Once Upon A Time In The West)
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2011 02:00 |
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Toebone posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanning_(firearms) Hollywood keeps lying to me but I keep coming back. As with just about every other factual inaccuracy in movies - "It looks cool" is a valid reason, I suppose. At least I got the name right - I probably did look it up before and just forgot. Thanks.
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2011 02:05 |
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Sort of on the same note - when did the trend of having multiple production company logo animations on the front of every movie start? I just started watching a movie on Netflix right now and got a 3-company circlejerk of flashy logos and arty names before the movie started.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2011 02:43 |
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Has CGI made films less expensive/easier to film (you can greenscreen a lot of sets and special effects) or has it just made them more expensive (a render farm can't be cheap)? I was wondering about this last night while watching Thor and it reminded me of the hoopla back in the day about The Fifth Element being like 15% CGI or something.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2011 13:57 |
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Trump posted:That's a pretty solid answer to the question - thanks.
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# ¿ Sep 22, 2011 16:30 |
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Rake Arms posted:Did I miss something? Probably not. Quantum of Solace is such a mess anyway. How they went from Casino Royale to this appears to be the high probability of a Bond movie being lovely to make up for the movie before it being good. (See: Goldeneye/Tomorrow Never Dies and The Living Daylights/Licence to Kill).
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2011 06:02 |
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Rake Arms posted:I like Quantum of Solace, but it is pretty hard to follow on the first viewing. My overall impression of the movie is that there is a good story, it just takes far more scrutiny than it should to understand. I do hope Bond 23 simplifies things a bit, since there's a lot of genuine talent attached and I'd like to see a satisfying conclusion to the new I'd just hope we actually get another good Bond movie with Daniel Craig. He's too good as Bond (and a great actor in general) to waste on a lackluster followup to Casino Royale. If Bond 23 actually gets Sam Mendes on board for real, I'm a lot more hopeful for it not sucking.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2011 05:45 |
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codyclarke posted:What are some action movies where the hero isn't physically injured once in the entire movie? Steven Seagal's Fire Down Below is probably the best example of this. If we're counting Superman, he certainly didn't get injured physically in the first movie that I recall. (II is debatable, I suppose and Returns had him get stabbed with kryptonite) The original Burton Batman I suppose would be a better example - Batman only really gets visibly "injured" once (when he gets shot while wearing body armor).
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2011 12:53 |
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I just had this brilliant idea (I'm just loving around and not actually serious, but I am curious): How hard would it be to break into Hollywood behind the scenes as a script doctor? It occurs to me that I love movies (like everyone in CD) and I hate seeing movies that could have been so much better if the script was good (again, like a lot of people in CD). I'm just curious if there's actually like a market for script doctoring and a lot of well-known movies actually got tweaked by some random guy working behind the scenes. I heard Tarantino supposedly did an uncredited rewrite of Crimson Tide and I've been told Christopher McQuarrie has done a bit of that as well since he dropped off the map for a while until Valkyrie came out.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2011 06:16 |
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VorpalBunny posted:Script doctors are usually people who have already proven themselves as screenwriters, and are usually Oscar-winners. It's a "slumming it" job that pays in the millions and usually only lasts a few weeks. Good luck breaking in! Heh, yeah. I figured it was pretty much like that and not like they bring in some guy who magically fixes poo poo. I wasn't actually serious but it was a brilliant idea nonetheless.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2011 06:36 |
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VorpalBunny posted:I had no idea they wrote a book! Thanks for the heads up, that should be a fun read! Yeah, I was going to say that's loving awesome that they wrote a book. Definitely going to buy it. I was going to order some stuff off Amazon anyway so I might as well get bumped to free shipping at least.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2011 08:33 |
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Is there a "technical" name for that cliched female vocal "Aaaaaahhhhhhaaaahhhhhhhhaaaaaahhhhhh" recording that gets played over dramatic moments in a lot of movies (LOTR, Gladiator, etc.)? It's not annoyingly over-used, but I wonder if The Godfather established the cliche by playing opera over the montage of people getting killed towards the end.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2011 14:55 |
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regulargonzalez posted:Not quite sure if this answers your question, but in classical music the term for it is a vocalise (rhymes with peace), most often used as a vocal exercise but also as a stand-alone piece ala http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZIQ2pHaJ1I Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about - that Lisa Gerrard-style female vocalist that's not actually "singing" but just vocalizing over the big dramatic moment in Gladiator or whatever. I figured there was a name for it besides "cliched dramatic soundtrack vocalist" or something. Thanks.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2011 17:22 |
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GORDON posted:I noticed it last night in Raiders of the Lost Ark, the scene in Marion's bar in Mongolia. One of the Nazis/henchmen puts a round through a barrel of red liquid, and Marion stops fighting for a moment to have a drink by slurping it directly from the little booze waterfall. Anywhere earlier than that, in 1981? No idea, but it needs to happen more often in movies. The Untouchables did it in '87 and I can't remember a single movie since.
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# ¿ Oct 21, 2011 14:17 |
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Spermando posted:I'm trying to think of any instances of remakes that were a lot more successful than the originals. The Thing?
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2011 13:40 |
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Didn't the thing bomb at the box office? I didn't know - hence the question mark. I checked Wikipedia and you're right. Says the original raked it in but the remake did poorly at the box office, probably because it went up against loving E.T.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2011 08:44 |
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What's that 70s disco song the Guidos and Stellas are singing along to in Detroit Rock City before they get into a fight with the 4 main characters? All I remember of it is the bit with the couple in the front of the car singing something like "Break these chains" and miming pulling their arms apart like they're snapping a chain.Zogo posted:http://www.amazon.com/Rubberface-Jim-Carrey/dp/B000K7UBT8 I remember years ago my ex-wife picked up some crappy-looking movie on DVD called "The Swap" from a bargain bin that had De Niro's face and name plastered all over the front of it. I never got around to watching it, but I just looked it up right now to see how much of a role he actually had in it. That backstory is definitely one of the most hilariously shameful "cash-in on a bankable star's name" stories I've ever heard. Taken from a link I found on Google: "The Swap was released in 1979, well after Robert De Niro was established as one of the top actors in the world, so how does this qualify as a "Before They Were Stars", you ask? Well, because all the footage featuring Mr. De Niro was originally shot way back in 1969! It seemed to be a popular trend in the late 1970s to uncover never-before-seen footage featuring a big-name star and try to build an entire movie around it (see also Bruce Lee in Game of Death). All the footage featuring De Niro was from one of his very first acting roles in a 1969 film called Sam's Song, which was never completed because the production ran out of money. After the geniuses at Cannon Films came into possession of the footage, they decided to shoot some brand new scenes and edit them together with the footage from Sam's Song and the result was a terrible movie called The Swap. Of course, it was released into theatres with De Niro's name all over it, even though all the footage of him was ten years old, and he was so pissed off that legal action was nearly taken. De Niro's character is killed off at the beginning of The Swap and as you can see from this clip, the whole structure of the movie involves other people having flashbacks about him, which is where all the old Sam's Song footage is edited in." Encryptic fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Nov 5, 2011 |
# ¿ Nov 5, 2011 15:49 |
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KillRoy posted:There was also a mediocre submarine movie, but it has Zach Galifinakus, and we were drunk so wewatched it to the end. Watching the credits, we realized it was written by Darren Arronofsky. Below? I thought that was pretty good when I watched it a few years ago - sort of if Das Boot had been filmed as a psychological horror movie.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2011 15:02 |
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FAT BATMAN posted:So, me and my dad were talking about Blazing Saddles and why it's one of the funniest god drat movies ever. In retrospect, there's also Once Upon A Time In The West which focuses largely on an attempted land grab by the railroad. Blazing Saddles' plot of course has Hedley Lamarr trying to run the citizens of Rock Ridge out by any means necessary (including sending armed thugs to terrorize the town, much like the early scene in OUATITW with the massacre at McBain's ranch) so he can run the railroad through where the town is. Don't know if that was an intentional reference on Brooks' part, though.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2011 01:52 |
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penismightier posted:And the land grab plot was a staple of 1930s/40s oaters. John Wayne saved women from land grabs a hundred times before he hit it big. Shows how much I know about classic Westerns. Good call.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2011 04:13 |
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penismightier posted:Best to look at Once Upon a Time in the West as the cowboy Kill Bill. If it's in that movie, it's probably from somewhere else. Yep. I'm kicking myself for not remembering that I read the Wiki about it that has a pretty good run-down of the various references to classic Westerns like High Noon. I'd actually be game for a good thread about OUATITW since I love that movie - but I don't know enough about the genre films that came before it to really talk intelligently about that aspect.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2011 05:45 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 05:43 |
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Akuma posted:So what you're saying here is that you believe in the olden days before fancy gel and fireproof suits they just set people on fire. Yes that makes perfect sense. Well, remember back then, they also walked uphill in the snow while carrying 30 pounds of books...barefoot. People were hard-rear end motherfuckers then, man. A little pussy-rear end fire ain't no thang.
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2011 18:14 |