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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Internet Gentleman posted:

Has the unaltered Star Wars been released on DVD? That may be the biggest/most popular movie not yet released on DVD.

They were released 2 or 3 years ago. You get them on a disk with both the enhanced and the classic versions on them. You can get them pretty cheaply these days. Best Buy has them for 15bux right now.

I had a question, What was the First movie to have a nationwide release, assuming it would be something like the Wizard of Oz or Gone With the Wind, or even Birth of a Nation. I checked around, it was loving JAWS.

What? It took nearly 80 years for Hollywood to release a movie nationally? Apparently, until the Jaws release, moves opened in one market and slowly spread across the country. if i were lucky enough to live in LA or New York, you could see The Godfather when it was first released. If you lived in the Cleve or Lubbock texas, it could take up to a year for it to get to you.

Madness!

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I just watched Dark City with the Ebert Commentary. I know he did commentary for his movie Beneth The Valley of the Dolls, but are there any other movies he's done commentary for?

Also, in Platoon, when Charlie Sheen is waiting for the VC soldiers to come into the ambush, he keeps covering and uncover his eyes. Why the gently caress is he doing that?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Butthole Prince posted:

Unless I'm missing something, he was just covering his face because he didn't want to get bothered by the bugs. He thinks he sees something (VC solider) but probably figures he's imagining it or whatever, so he covers his face again. But then he realizes that maybe he did see something, looks again, and yes, there's a VC soldier standing there who had been there the whole time.

Thats what i thought he was doing. It just seemed like surreal. I guess his delay doing that is why he got chewed out at the end of the scene.

Thanks for the Ebert commentary list. I wish more movies would have commentary like that. When watching one i want insights on the movie not "oh this scene was fun to shoot" or "this scene took 3 days blah blah blah...".

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I love that.

"You're Not even a cripple!!"

Though posting Hulu links is sort of insulting for those who do not live in the US! Tease us more with awesomeness! *cry*

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Okay, I know Jane Mansfield is the Mother of the woman from Law an order SVU, but why does she have a crazy Slavic name I have no idea how to pronounce nor spell?

Also, was she one of the children that were in the car when Mansfield and her husband died?

I just watched this documentary on Anton LeVey and Hollywood and it only touched on this subject, but i was fascinated by it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Peaceful Anarchy posted:

IMDB has the answer. Her name comes from her father, as you'd expect. And apparently she was in the car as were two of her brothers. Also, apparently only Jayne Mansfield died.

Thanks for this. I've always been more fascinated by old Hollywood sleeze and crazyshit than old movies.

Another quesion; what was the first movie to be adapted from something other than existing Book or Play?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Og Oggilby posted:

Plenty of the earliest of early films are based on newspaper articles or true-life stories.

I probably should of added "fictional source".

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I guess i should of said "adapted from a comic book, or tv or radio show".
I was purely interested in when did hollywood start looking at "new" media as a source, rathern than simply filming novels, folktales and myths.

I guess you could consider Birth of a Nation one of the first, as it was based on the newly established myths of the resurgent Klan.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Og Oggilby posted:

Actually, the KKK as we know it today began after this film. Those who were in the reconstruction-era KKK actually tried to sue the new KKK because of this.


Thats right, William Simmons pretty much got the idea of the KKK inc from Birth of a nation.

Okay, maybe this will be better worded. I watched Videodrome tonight, and i'm sure James Woods tv station is pretty much CityTV, right down to actually using the CityTV building on queen and john.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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What is a Thinkpak? do you mean Thinpack?

I thought they stopped making those lovely cardboard cases.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Og Oggilby posted:

Yeah, I had a Freudian slip.

Just to give an idea of how cool thinpaks are...



16 discs.



4 discs. If you were to put the Indiana Jones and Star Wars 4-disc sets next to each other, they would take up the same space as the complete Monty Python box.

Yea, or one of the worst offenders is the Stargate SG-1 dvds in the regular sized cases. I have season 1 and 2 in that size, and the rest in the thinpack ones. I'm pretty sure season 1 takes up as much room as the rest of the series. Andromeda is even worse because the box set is made up of those HUGE dual cases that you sometimes get.

Who chooses the Trailers before a movie? I always though that while some trailers are mandated by the studio (Watchmen before The Dark Knight), that they are chosen by the theater chain. Though before TDK, we got a trailer for Mummy 3, which had already opened. I thought it was odd that they would still be running a trailer for a movie thats been released.

If it was chosen by AMC, i would of thought it would of been removed as soon as it was open and replaced by something else. This also goes with Family and childerns movie trailers shown before Adult or R rated movies.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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We Are Citizen posted:


Casino Royale:

What happened to Felix Leiter? Why doesn't he capture Le Chiffre as planned? When Vesper gets word that he has made contact with Le Chiffre, is she telling the truth, and Le Chiffre just escaped, or was she lying? And if she was lying, then why didn't Leiter make contact? Also, was Mathis guilty or not? Or is that to be dealt with in the sequel?

Well,
Felix didn't txt Vesper that they had taken Le Chiffre, it was Mathis. As Mathis was working for the bad guys (at least taking Le Chiffre's word, which he had no reason to lie), it would not be hard to imagin that Vesper was known to him, and there for they set it up so Bond would come after her.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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morestuff posted:

Yeah, I think the answer here is "because the director/writer thought it would look cool."

From the Overnight documentary, that sounds pretty much how Troy Duffy made the movie.

"Does it look cool? Do it. I'm going to go to the bar and get drunk."

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Mr. Funny Pants posted:

"And we are loving doing something that has never loving been done, and those fuckers just don't loving understand and neither do you fuckers and Harvey Weinstein and fuckity gently caress gently caress."

Goddamn I loved Overnight. It should have been called Schadenfreude: The Movie.

You forgot to smack talk Tarantino. But yea, it showed that Duffy is just some jackass who was way too full of himself.

Actually, speaking of that, was the reason Duffy made zero money save his advance from Boondock Saints because he pretty much just hosed off any business meetings and didn't bother reading any contract? That's how i remember it from the doc, but someone recently told me that was wrong.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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This may be better asked in the marvel thread, but its huge, and it is a general question, but did Marvel sign away the film rights to All Xmen, Fantastic Four, Spider and so on characters to other studios, so they would will not be able to include any characters from those series in any of their own movies?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Timby posted:

FOX owns the X-Men film rights for the foreseeable future. I believe Sony recently re-upped with Marvel to retain the Spider-Man rights for another decade. I'm not sure about Fantastic Four. The Daredevil rights are either soon to revert or have already reverted to Marvel Studios.

Hrm, well at least that means is possible for Dr Doom to appear properly in an Avengers movie in the future. Its intresting how in the extras for Iron Man, they talk about how Doom is the perfect Enemy for Iron Man.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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At the beginning of the Departed, it shows Costello and his cronie shooting a man and woman. I assumed it was the father and daughter from the scene before hand, but upon rewatching it, they look completely different.

Does it ever say who they are?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Cacator posted:

It's supposed to be them, who else would it be? I remember in the Departed thread that people argued incessantly over this.

See, it really depressed me that Frank and his crew were not above executing a 14 year old girl. Like in a movie of horrible acts, that one was way beyond anything else in the movie.

But as i said, the people shot look quite different. Like the guy has full head of brown hair, and the woman has longer hair. Similar top.

Though one of my friends said it was Matt Damons parents.

There has always been the murder of teenage girls that has always impacted me more than any other kind of murder in film, tv or real life.

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Nov 21, 2003

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morestuff posted:

You must love '80s horror movies.

Its not hard when the "Teenagers" all look about 25.

Okay, question for the effects people, when you see in a zombie movie some people chowing down on what looks like guts of some poor sap, what is it?

I saw a documentary recently that talked about how they really were eating raw animal guys in the original Night of the Living dead, but I find that hard to believe. Considering how cheap that movie was made, I can't believe they could find extras that were willing to do that for the pittance they were paid.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Detective Thompson posted:

Yeah, they used real intestines. I think from a pig, but I'm not sure. I know they also used real intestines in 'Day of the Dead', and the extras were getting sick from it. And people will do a lot of things, if it means they show up in a movie. It's not about the money. Now, what they use in movies like, say, the new 'Dawn of the Dead', I'm not sure. They might just stick with pig intestines. They'd be cheap enough, and look real enough.

Ugh. I can't see anyone wanting to be in a movie so badly that they'll put guts from a pig in their mouth. It isn't fear factor.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Women's Rights? posted:

In City of the Living Dead, the actress who pukes up her own intestines had to swallow warm sheep intestines and then vomit them back up. It makes the scene way more disgusting if you know this ahead of time :)


Oh god :gonk:

I only jst watched that not to long ago in a "zombie movies i haven't seen before" marathon. Though I did watch Zombie! finally. Zombie vs shark :iamafag:

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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In Indy 4, when Indy and Jim Broadbent are talking about what Indy will do, he says someone owes him a favor and he'll probably end up teaching in Leipzig. Who owes him a favor?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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plainswalker75 posted:

I guess Leipzig is a pretty famous town that was in East Germany; he's making the joke because he's accused of being a Communist.

Well, yes, but who owes Indy a favor? I was wondering because maybe it was a Character from an earlier film.

But I couldn't figure out if Indy had befriended any Germans.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Criminal Minded posted:

God, I loving love Chinatown. It's got one of those plots that isn't that complicated but every time I watch it, I have to figure it out for myself all over again because there are little things that I don't remember. It's like getting to see it for the first time, every time.

Yea, its a amazing movie. Plus I love the setting of early 50s LA.

Anyways, I don't think its because materialism was created in the 80s, but more it became much more prevelent. One of the reasons American psycho is probably one of the best representations of the 80s. No one identifies each other by their personalities, but buy the watch they wear, the view from their apartments and so on.

You could be a total loser and dork, but as long as you had the right things you could be accepted.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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timeandtide posted:

I just recalled watching a cartoon film in elementary school that was somewhat disturbing, and was trying to figure out what it was: it's basically about a cat trying to chase away/kill a snake that is trying to get into the crib of a baby. The film takes place in a falling apart house/mansion, none of the animals talk, and I think all of the humans are seen from the waist or chest down, or obscured from the back.

Edit: And yes, I know it's an old thread, but there's really no other place for this and it doesn't need it's own thread.

Isn't that Riki tiki tavi or something? And its a Mongoose fending off a Corba I think? A Kipling story i think.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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So I was watching Robocop the other day, and when Clarance gets into his car just before they go to the Mill, it looks like his rear view mirror falls off as he slams the door.

This made me wonder, have there been any instances of something really wrong being caught on film and not being removed during editing? I've heard of stuff like planes flying by in the background of a civil war movie, or an guy playing a Indian in an old western wearing a relatively modern watch, but nothing huge.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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In Big Trouble In Little China, at the start they're gambling, though it doesn't show what they're doing. Is there any idea?

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Nov 21, 2003

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SubG posted:

They're playing fan-tan. Jack actually says as much.

Ah, at least I can look it up on Wikipedia now.

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Nov 21, 2003

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Nutsngum posted:

This just made me realise that Captain Planet spoiled the Fith Element. OF COURSE the fith elemnt has to be heart/love. Duh

Now all I can think of is that guy who does Matti on the Nostalgia Critic vids.

Heart! Heart! Heart motherfuckers!

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Nov 21, 2003

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Coffey posted:

"The 4th Floor" with Juliette Lewis. There's a room full of Styrofoam packing, sort of like a quicksand type stall room. I'm trying to remember the name of it. I believe it's a French word...and it's driving me crazy. Also pretty sure it starts with a "P" although not positive about that.

EDIT: I think it's "oubliette".

If i remember correctly, it translates to "place to be forgotten". There was a Poe story about a guy walling his enemy up inside one after getting him drunk.

Cask of Amarillo i think its called.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Pandachops posted:

I'm pretty sure the only film I've seen with credits at the start is Reservoir Dogs. I'm sure this is a reflection on my movie-seeing credentials.

And that's more of QT's using a retro style than any directors guild thingy.

I do remember being a kid and watching older Disney stuff and just becoming incredibly bored while waiting for the movie to start. 101 Dalmatians was really bad for that.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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When they show a gun shooting in a movie, I always assume that it's firing blanks, but are the blanks also the cases being expelled also part of the blanks?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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haveblue posted:

Yes. A blank is pretty much a case with a normal gunpowder load but no bullet, instead being plugged with something much weaker that just keeps the powder in. The powder burns as normal and the casing is ejected as the action cycles.

Blanks are still dangerous because the hot gases and vaporized remains of the plug still come shooting out the barrel of the gun and can cause serious damage to anything within a few inches of the muzzle before they dissipate. And, as Brandon Lee discovered, if there is anything substantial in the barrel already a blank will turn it into a bullet.

Cool. I always assumed that all blanks where like the ones I used when I worked in a historical fort as a Highlander showing tourists how a brown bess was loaded and fired.

Though that makes sense because a cartridge for such a gun was made of paper.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Pretty much she has every kind of malady in the book, you know, to give her depth.

And so she can freak out at any moment to put the rest of them into danger.

I was watching Legend recently, and besides realizing the plot makes more sens that I remember, is there any significants to the stars that shoot out after The Lord of Darkness is blasted off into the void?

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Nov 21, 2003

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In WW2 films, are the tanks and other heavy equipment mock ups, reconstructions or the real thing?

There was a bout a million M1s and Kar98s made, so it's not hard to imagine that the guns being used are real, but I was wondering about that.

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Nov 21, 2003

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SubG posted:

Yes.

It really depends on the film, when it was made, and what the budget was. These days a lot of the tanks and planes and so forth are just CG. Between the time when the Soviet Union was imploding and when CG effects took over an awful lot of old T-34s and so on were standing in for all kinds of armour; most of the German tanks in Saving Private Ryan (1998), for example, were modified T-34s. Earlier, a lot of tanks used in films were just whatever the Army would lend to studios plus some paint; most of the German tanks in Patton (1970) were in fact M-48 `Patton' tanks and the U.S. tanks were mostly Korean-era M-24s.

Yea, I'm one of those "BUT THOSE AREN'T PANZERS!" people who can't watch Patton. Which is annoying because otherwise it's a fantastic movie.

I know that all the aircraft in The Battle of Britain were actual leftover WW2 planes.

I was sorta hoping that there was some guys in hollywood that had the job of turning old tracked earthmovers into Stugs and Panzer's for Band of Brothers.

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Nov 21, 2003

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InfiniteZero posted:

There are two unrelated threads about panzer tanks in CineD in one day (they're discussing panzers over in the "Best of 2009" thread too). I find this very confusing.

Well, to me it's more a movie using something that looks completely different from what they're describing. It would be like watching Public Enemies, and insted of cars from the 20s, they were all scooting around in PT Crusiers because they were easier to get, or they were toting MP5 because they would be easier to get than Thompsons.

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Nov 21, 2003

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LargeMaleDogOrHorse posted:

One of my mates raised that too, but I took it to be indicative of torture after he was captured. If the torture was his motivation, why was he tortured?

I was curious about that. It's not like the Nazi's didn't give people reasons to hate them. Maybe Hugo's family was killed by the SS, or he had a brother that died on the Eastern Front and he played the Nazi leadership of the army for it. There is a million different reasons.

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Nov 21, 2003

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Ortsacras posted:

There should be a thread for "old posts that are now seen as hilariously wrong." The Star Trek thread, the Avatar thread(s), and the Transformers 2 thread would be absolute gold mines for that kind of thing.

Hey, I admitted I was wrong about Piece of the Action!

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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What's with Cleopatra? I read a book all about big disaster films that ruined or almost ruined studios, and besides Heaven's Gate, it's considered the worst studio blunder.

But I've also found that it's also considered a great film anyways, a sweeping epic on the level of Gone With the Wind or Ben Hur.

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