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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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When did movies first start to have huge cast and crew lists at the end? I imagine it's probably due to union requirements and it probably happened around the mid-1970s, but when I watch a film made before that on DVD, it's always really jarring when it goes THE END -BOOM- TITLE MENU!

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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bows1 posted:

A friend of mine lives in China and she needs to do a report about movies produced in Hollywood about China or Chinese people over the past hundred years. Does anyone know where I can find a list of movies like this? Thanks a lot.

Not sure about such a list, but 'Broken Blossoms' is an essential place to start. "Why are you so kind to me, yellow man?"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0009968/

A lot of recent Wuxia stuff has American producers or American involvement, but I'm not sure that's what you mean.

EDIT: if her report doesn't mention 'Big Trouble in Little China', it's worthless :colbert:

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Sep 10, 2008

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Ape Agitator posted:

at[/i] but given their unique flavor. But that'd be a hard sell, a gamble.

So I think it's possible, even inevitable (given enough time), but I'd say we're in an arab-sploitation phase of cinema. With some luck, we're in a late period of that phase.

Could you explain what you mean by this further? The current cycle of Middle-Eastern villains is nothing like Blaxploitation, which didn't refer to the exploitation of black characters or cast members, but was a spin off of exploitation cinema as a whole, so I don't really see a comparison until "Muhammed takes Manhattan" shows up on Broadway.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Ape Agitator posted:

That's hardly true. Blaxploitation plays on stereotypes and base emotions just like any other exploitation genre. The difference being that they cast themselves as heroes, but it is still fueled in the same way as all of the other exploitation genres. They still are drug fueled, violent, jive talking toughs who hate whitey (who is universally evil).

I don't know if I agree with that, but it depends upon the film. Blaxploitation could often be quite positive as at the time the genre went super-nova, the movie brats were beginning to popularise a brand of cerebral, down-beat, post-Vietnam cinema. So-called exploitation pictures at the time had pro-active heroes who took control of the decaying urban landscapes round them (even if they were, like you correctly state, violent). Seriously, watch 'The French Connection' then watch 'Shaft' and think about who can really navigate New York most successfully in those films.

As for 'Sweet Sweetback's Badasssss Song', I'm not sure how fair it is to lump it in with Blaxploitation, even if it did spawn the genre. It's shot like a guerilla porno art documentary and has some quite clever things to say about genre and form (Sweetback forsaking the city for desert, dressing in Old-West style garb and embodying both the 'savage' and the 'outlaw' before disappearing into legend, for example). To cut a long story short, SSBS wasn't really exploitative of its cast or audience, unless you count a couple of heavy sex scenes as enough to qualify it as exploitation.

On the whole, I agree with you, but I think ideas like casting Middle-Eastern actors in a Bad Boys style action movie isn't the best route, but I understand what you're trying to say and I'd like to see that day too. What about some of the great films that are coming out of the Middle-East or from Middle-Eastern artists that are great in their own right? 'Pesepolis' springs to mind if you haven't already seen that. It was well received and had a pretty good American cast for the English dub.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Dvlos posted:

While I enjoyed Lady of Vengeance, and its quirky sense of humor (the only one of the three with a defined sense of humor), personally Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance I thought was the best. As time has gone on though, I actually think Oldboy while still a good movie is probably my least favorite of the three.

I pretty much enjoy all of Park's films even I'm a Cyborg, but that's OK.

Just an aside, but I think 'I'm A Cyborg...' is a great movie. Apparently Park's intention was to make a movie for his teenage daughter that wouldn't be patronising as gently caress, and I think he more than achieved that.

Don't forget about Joint Security Area, either. It takes a long time to properly get into 'Park-mode', but when it does it's heartbreaking and I learned a lot about Korea's political situation too.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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bows1 posted:

Does anyone know of any movies, or scenes that are shot in first person?

My friend wrote a script from completely first person and is looking for ideas on how to shoot it. Clips of the scenes would be great, but if not just the names and we can rent them.

P.S. something besides Being John Malcovich.

Yes, The Lady and The Lake is in first person:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039545/

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4AKDw2hwi5I

Also check out the opening of John Carpenter's Halloween

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lFILFAaE39U

EDIT: poo poo! Also check out the UK Sit-Com 'Peep Show'. That's entirely in first person too:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WLf2HLmFBT8

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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morestuff posted:

Thanks for reminding me about this, I remember reading about this in a film textbook 10 years ago and I've always meant to check it out. It have any value beyond the novelty factor?

It's quite hokey, but it's an entertaining yarn on its own (it's a sanitised version of a Raymond Chandler novel). If you usually like film noir, you can certainly do worse.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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jjack229 posted:

Maybe not a movie question, but close enough.

I have seen a few films where people's reviews talk about the films focus on the consumerism and materialism that was the 80's (American Psycho and Repo Man come to mind).

While I grew up in the 80's, I was too young to notice any extreme consumerism or materialism, and especially too young to compare it to previous decade(s).

I know that relative to other decades the 80's had horrible music, hairstyles, and clothes, but was it really that much more focused on consumerism and materialism than the 70', 90's, or now?

Look at a lot of the teen movies too, for example:

Ferris Bueller's Day Off suburban protoyuppie goes to play in the big, bwad city!

Weird Science has a rather dubious scene where another couple of suburban kids go for an adventure in the city at the jazz club.

Both these movies are totally about boys with expensive toys too.

Quite a turn around from the 60s and 70s.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Rake Arms posted:

Okay, so I just watched Escape From New York, and I have a question about the music.

As you may know, John Carpenter was originally set to score Planet Terror, but dropped out. Rodriguez' score is very clearly designed to reminisce Carpenter, but there's one scene where I swear the music is taken directly from Escape From New York. If I remember right, the scene where the one armed zombie attacks Josh Brolin with a bone saw. I'm pretty sure it's lifted from this sequence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMnhPqPohZE

Can anyone verify that this is the same song? Or is Rodriguez just really accurate when imitating styles?

I don't have Planet Terror on hand to check, but there is definitely a few tracks taken from Carpenter movies used on the soundtrack. I know that's not a comprehensive answer, but the answer is that they're most likely the same track.

IMDB lists this on the soundtrack:

# "Back To The Pod / The Crazies Come Out"
Written by John Carpenter and Alan Howarth
Performed by John Carpenter and Alan Howarth
Courtesy of Studio/Canal


Elijya posted:

It's hard for actors to stay on top forever. If they're a dramatic actor and their stars start to fall, they can at least do some thoughtful independent or smaller budget films. If they're a comedic actor, they're pretty much forced to do television.

B-movie roles and videogame voice overs seem to beckon these days.

And of course, we're in the age of post-modernism now so all it takes is some young buck to think you're ironically cool and you're back making movies again. Having said that, it's not really fair to ever write anybody off. Brando was considered washed up before he did The Godfather, for example.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Was there ever anything akin to the video nasty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_nasty moral panic in the US? It seems like it was a curiously British phenomenon and I've always wondered if there was any kind of home video moral crusade in other countries.

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Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

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Do David Lynch films robustly support that kind of reading? I've always enjoyed them more when I tend to just go with the flow and succumb to the dread of the whole thing. I've always been on the fence about trying to unpack a film like Mullholland Drive or Inland Empire.

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