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Wikipedia posted:In February 2022, after training KataGo for 11 months, [Igo Hatsuyōron 120] appears solved: the main variation has 205 moves and finishes with a White win by one point, assuming White begins the game and there are no prisoners initially. The score does not depend on the rule set, with the same result with Japanese, Chinese, Tromp-Taylor or New Zealand scoring. Though it cannot be certain that the solution is perfect, it is an improvement over previous solutions. KataGo took less than 4 months to figure out the best sequence of moves, and despite seven more months of training and multiple actions to encourage it to explore new lines of play, the best line of play remained unchanged, KataGo only consolidating its view of the problem. The expert Thomas Redecker contributed thousands of Igo's position diagrams to train KataGo and shares this view that the problem now appears to be solved. (In the quotation, "assuming White begins the game and there are no prisoners initially" refers to the initial position's White stones outnumbering Black by 1, implying Black to play.) Redecker's website: https://igohatsuyoron120.de/
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that’s nuts. It’s insane to me that a human compared that problem, also.
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Jul 31, 2022 03:37
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goign to play go again. going to go over a pro game on my real board in the hour before work, thinking about the general state of the board and thinking about where id like to play, etc.. and after work load the previous day's games i played into ai-sensei or something and go over them. and then play a bunch of games. do tsumego throughout the day on my phone. the whole shebang
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Aug 2, 2022 21:32
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I gotta get back into it, I’ve inadvertently taken a couple months off. Before I start some OGS correspondence and hang out on KGS in the evenings sometimes, is there anyone else people are playing lately?
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Aug 3, 2022 00:54
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picked up my 5k fox account and won four of six games tonight. four won games were against completely insane people and the last game i lost was against someone who played completely reasonable moves most of the time and i cant handle that
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Aug 3, 2022 03:52
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i have ascended to 4k on fox. i am unstoppable
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Aug 4, 2022 03:34
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it turns out i am stoppable. lost 4 out of 5 games tonight mostly due to really boneheaded oversights. also using the crap out of fox's score estimator button. its impossible to resist
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Aug 5, 2022 03:14
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mycophobia posted:it turns out i am stoppable. lost 4 out of 5 games tonight mostly due to really boneheaded oversights. The estimators are all really, really rough - don't get too reliant on it.
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Aug 6, 2022 00:01
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still losing a bunch. lost 7 of the last 10 games i played, mostly due to reasons i can understand at least. 4kyu is harder than 5kyu
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Aug 6, 2022 01:50
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So tonight I knocked one of my containers with Go stones off my nightstand. It was made of glass and shattered quite spectacularly. Any suggestions for replacements? These were my travel stones so I'm looking for something that could be closed more securely than the traditional wooden bowls.
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Aug 6, 2022 12:16
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why am i such an idiot!!! aaah!!!
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Aug 6, 2022 22:36
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Am I misreading it or isn’t it dead already even if you play above or right, because black 172 still falsifies that eye and cuts you off from the corner? I feel like it might even be dead already by 168 but I can’t quite read it out. edit: not trying to be a jerk here, just inadvertently started doing some reading practice and wanted to see if I was missing something.
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Aug 7, 2022 00:28
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No worries. I'm not quite sure what you're saying though. I was black and neglected to play 172 due to time pressure, I had one 30 second byoyomi left
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Aug 7, 2022 00:42
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Ah, I thought you were white and were regretting having played 172 rather than an adjacent point, and then just totally misread the situation with the incorrect background assumption that white was dead. Ignore the above, lol
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Aug 7, 2022 00:56
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Lost a bunch at 4k and got demoted and then stomped rear end at 5k and got promoted again in a short time. Will the ping ponging continue...?
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mycophobia posted:Lost a bunch at 4k and got demoted and then stomped rear end at 5k and got promoted again in a short time. Will the ping ponging continue...? This always seems to be the case - every time you go up a stone you'll hit a losing streak and drop two before climbing back up and promote another stone...
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Aug 13, 2022 14:05
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seemingly unreasonable 3-3 invasions are the bane of my existence. if i could fend those off consistently i'd gain 2-3 stones strength
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mycophobia posted:seemingly unreasonable 3-3 invasions are the bane of my existence. if i could fend those off consistently i'd gain 2-3 stones strength Join the discord and post some replays. There shouldn't be questionable 3-3 invasions, if it's possible to live inside and they threaten the outside value, you should be responding accordingly whether that is attacking the outside group or securing the corner.
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Aug 13, 2022 22:18
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I played even one color go on a lark (after a great 2 stone handicap game against an european 3kyu) against another 3 kyu. Surprisingly we finished the game and I won a few capture battles until I misread a ladder and resigned. We played enough moves to run out of stones in a goke. It's very fun and actually very doable even despite my low strength.
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Aug 31, 2022 23:45
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What's the best Go app on Android? I do have a good steam game and such but I was thinking today it's be great if I could just play a simple go app on the phone while flying
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untzthatshit posted:What's the best Go app on Android? I do have a good steam game and such but I was thinking today it's be great if I could just play a simple go app on the phone while flying tsumego pro is a great problem app.
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+1 for Tsumego Pro I’d self-promote my own app, BadukPop, but it won’t work without a network connection XD.
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CaptainEO posted:+1 for Tsumego Pro Oh wow you're the badukpop guy?? I play on that from time to time
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The OGS app on android is a lot nicer than the one on iPhone
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CaptainEO posted:+1 for Tsumego Pro Both these apps are great but I do particularly like yours (even if I can't play it in airplane mode :P) But it's exactly what I was looking for - something where I get little points and coins and stuff each game and I like that the puzzles come with brief explanations and answers at the end. Really good stuff!
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Cool, yeah, a big piece of feedback we got early on was that tsumego answers are hard to understand for beginners, because new players don’t recognize living or dead shapes right away. So we went and built full move trees for the first ~35 problems, which go all the way to taking the group off the board. One day I hope we can use AI to build exhaustive move trees for all problems. We’ll be sending out Autumn Festival gifts this afternoon (a couple of free items to every account) so now is a good time to install the app if you haven’t already  https://badukpop.com
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Sep 4, 2022 19:07
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Back from a tournament, did pretty well. My database rank is too high because I didn't know EGF was so strong when I played my first tourney and declared 5k, when in reality I was 9k. A couple months later and I played evenly at 6k and won a few games too.
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Oct 16, 2022 17:04
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Space Cadet insisted on playing on a full 19x19 board tonight. I gave her a huge handicap and pulled my punches a lot but it was a good game. I think we're going to scale back to something smaller in general (11x11 or 13x13) but she enjoyed it which was awesome.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Space Cadet insisted on playing on a full 19x19 board tonight. I gave her a huge handicap and pulled my punches a lot but it was a good game. I think we're going to scale back to something smaller in general (11x11 or 13x13) but she enjoyed it which was awesome. I had a similar experience with my 6yo on the 13x13 (I haven't even shown her a 19x19). We only play every couple months but I'm terrible so it balances out.
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My wife hates playing with me  . She's says the gap between us is too large for it to be fun (.. I'm like, 19kyu at best), even when I give her 5 stones on a 9x9. So basically I have a beautiful 1" thick goban but nobody to play with 
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Mederlock posted:My wife hates playing with me Have you considered having a child to teach to hate playing with you?
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Mederlock posted:My wife hates playing with me I hear you buddy.
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Nephzinho posted:Have you considered having a child to teach to hate playing with you? Lmao, that's the eventual plan. Until then, it's virtual Go for this guy
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Mederlock posted:Lmao, that's the eventual plan. Until then, it's virtual Go for this guy I just can't get into online go. For some reason it's just boring without the social aspect. I guess I'm getting old.
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PerniciousKnid posted:I just can't get into online go. For some reason it's just boring without the social aspect. I guess I'm getting old. Our Go club was destroyed by COVID, it’s simply gone. I feel you.
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Thirteen Orphans posted:I feel you. No, that's too social.
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My wife likes most board games, but does tend to have analysis paralysis. When I showed her the 19x19 board she immediately noped out. I don't have analysis paralysis and am about 10k, but the sheer possibilities on the goddamn board can sometimes give me nightmares too.
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Pander posted:My wife likes most board games, but does tend to have analysis paralysis. When I showed her the 19x19 board she immediately noped out. Play with a clock?
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PerniciousKnid posted:I just can't get into online go. For some reason it's just boring without the social aspect. I guess I'm getting old. Hard agree. I think I last posted in this thread or played seriously online almost a decade ago, right about when I found a decent sized go club and some players who were up for games during the week, because I want that social aspect, I want a mix of timed serious games and casual ones, and I really like the experience and aesthetics of playing on a real board. There's no club where I am now or within 200 miles, so I definitely need to get back onto the online servers. But! If anyone in this thread lives in South Louisiana and would be up for an in-person game, please let me know! I'm roughly between Hammond and New Orleans and willing to travel to either. Maybe there'll be more of us than we thought- I'd be willing to try starting up a club/weekly meetup if there's interest.
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New Orleans absolutely has go clubs. I’m in h town, but have played there when visiting. I’d expect most are local haunts without big web presences because old people run them, but they exist.
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