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Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

Does anyone have recommendations for places to get a decent quality cloth desk mat with custom print? The rubber underside on mine finally deteriorated to the point where it's dried and peeling off and I want to try making something in Illustrator instead of replacing it with another boring black mat.

While I'm here:



The red keys are only because the regular ones are in the wash I swear.

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Ornery and Hornery
Oct 22, 2020

Love a good, clean, station :)

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
This is my all purpose gaming/home office/spare room home theater situation. Forgive the atmos wires... it's a work in progress.



It's 7.1.2 but I'm not finalized on if I want to have Atmos or just take down the height speakers altogether (which is why I haven't hidden the wires yet). I feel like if I do want to do Atmos, I really need 2x more of the height speakers so I can do a proper layout... kinda lazy about it though

The best thing I ever did for this setup was get a Dirac Live receiver, you would be amazed at the sound you can get with a good room EQ.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Taima posted:

This is my all purpose gaming/home office/spare room home theater situation. Forgive the atmos wires... it's a work in progress.



It's 7.1.2 but I'm not finalized on if I want to have Atmos or just take down the height speakers altogether (which is why I haven't hidden the wires yet). I feel like if I do want to do Atmos, I really need 2x more of the height speakers so I can do a proper layout... kinda lazy about it though

The best thing I ever did for this setup was get a Dirac Live receiver, you would be amazed at the sound you can get with a good room EQ.

Stick with 5.1 (or I guess 7.1 in your case), especially for such a small space. gently caress an atmos

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
I think i'm with you. I don't really feel like it helped :( but I wasn't sure how much it mattered that I only had two. Thanks for the perspective.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Taima posted:

I think i'm with you. I don't really feel like it helped :( but I wasn't sure how much it mattered that I only had two. Thanks for the perspective.

At this point I would treat ATMOS as more of a curiosity than anything. As far as hard numbers are concerned, adoption has flopped super hard and that's being generous. The vast majority of setups aren't even "true" atmos, it's poo poo like ceiling bounce speakers and soundbars with a bunch of extra tiny drivers shoved into them that don't accomplish anything meaningful. Maybe we'll see more/better adoption from mastering houses now that Apple is trying to make spatial audio though headphones a thing and we continue to move toward object-oriented mixing ubiquitization, but I don't think home theater ATMOS is ever gonna truly matter. Spending the extra ATMOS money collecting a dead physical media format would give you a way better ROI.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
Surround sound in general is kind of a wank; especially the way most people do it; which is to buy a cheap surround sound system where you end up with a bunch of speakers but they’re all poo poo. It’s one thing if you’re dropping the $$$ on a proper home theatre setup; when you’re buying speakers for your computer just buy a good quality pair of powered monitors and call it a day; you’ll get a nicer experience (especially since they’ll probably be designed for near field listening.

Or obviously a good pair of headphones works too; especially if you’re on a tighter budget.

bredfrown
Nov 2, 2022

Pixel pusher and game maker.

fawning deference posted:

A bit of a late response, but I am looking at standing desks and this one looks like exactly what I want. Which is it?

I was scrolling through this thread and I totally missed this. Probably way too late, but I didn't want to leave you hangin'!

Here is the desk I own, and I've had it for exactly three years now and have had zero problems with it.:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GVRKCWP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here's what my setup looks like now:

bredfrown fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Apr 18, 2024

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

trilobite terror posted:

At this point I would treat ATMOS as more of a curiosity than anything. As far as hard numbers are concerned, adoption has flopped super hard and that's being generous. The vast majority of setups aren't even "true" atmos, it's poo poo like ceiling bounce speakers and soundbars with a bunch of extra tiny drivers shoved into them that don't accomplish anything meaningful. Maybe we'll see more/better adoption from mastering houses now that Apple is trying to make spatial audio though headphones a thing and we continue to move toward object-oriented mixing ubiquitization, but I don't think home theater ATMOS is ever gonna truly matter. Spending the extra ATMOS money collecting a dead physical media format would give you a way better ROI.

It's a drat shame really because the premise, imo, is really cool. I wonder if the implicit issue here is that adoption is so low? So there is no real impetus to create good Atmos mixes, which then decreases adoption further in a feedback loop.

Totally agreed that the fake Atmos bullshit has not helped at all. Even a 5.1 system is so intense for an average movie enjoyer, then saying "well you need 4 more height speakers, oh and you need a way better receiver, etc etc" just isn't too compelling, even if a bullet whizzing over your head is pretty cool in practice, the value prop is not there at all.

I have enjoyed a lot of Atmos apple music tracks on my home theater and they are sometimes great and sometimes utter poo poo. The track has to be suited for it, and then the mixing has to be good... it's very hit or miss. But I will say, when it hits, it HITS. Can really be a wonderful experience with a full-fat surround system and the R3s as the backbone.

The Lord Bude posted:

Surround sound in general is kind of a wank; especially the way most people do it; which is to buy a cheap surround sound system where you end up with a bunch of speakers but they’re all poo poo. It’s one thing if you’re dropping the $$$ on a proper home theatre setup; when you’re buying speakers for your computer just buy a good quality pair of powered monitors and call it a day; you’ll get a nicer experience (especially since they’ll probably be designed for near field listening.

Right, the home theater in a box stuff is almost universally trash, but at the same time you can get 4x JBL 530s (which I consider to be pretty competent) for $120-140 per speaker. That would make an ok surround setup.

Personally as you can see, I opted for the KEF R3 as my main fronts. And oh MAN they are absolutely loving glorious, just wonderful speakers (even if they are fussy and hard to dial). But all of my side and rear speakers are JBL 530s. And my center is a Martin Logan ribbon-tweeter deal that I got cheap.

So the priority in my system goes:
Fronts >>> Center >> Satellites

And I'm very pleased with those priorities. Though like I said, I do think using a full 530 setup would probably be decent and would be so cheap.

Honestly the use case for surround sound that excites me the most, by far, is gaming, so that's where my setup sees the most use by far.

But yeah- I can agree that powered monitors are perfect for most people. They just wouldn't work for me; I need a good subwoofer. And I really believe in Dirac Live, it's like magic.

Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms

bredfrown posted:

Here's what my setup looks like now:


That old-school computer on the side is sick as all get out.

bredfrown
Nov 2, 2022

Pixel pusher and game maker.
I was gifted that SE/30 from my high school English teacher about 17 years ago, and I was able to get it restored last year with a brand-spanking-new rebuilt motherboard. It suffered a nasty "battery bomb" where the old lithium batteries essentially explode and damage the boards, lol.

Works great and I use it to write scripts for my game and some basic financial stuff and pixel art. :P

I love this little machine. :P

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Taima posted:

It's a drat shame really because the premise, imo, is really cool. I wonder if the implicit issue here is that adoption is so low? So there is no real impetus to create good Atmos mixes, which then decreases adoption further in a feedback loop.

Totally agreed that the fake Atmos bullshit has not helped at all. Even a 5.1 system is so intense for an average movie enjoyer, then saying "well you need 4 more height speakers, oh and you need a way better receiver, etc etc" just isn't too compelling, even if a bullet whizzing over your head is pretty cool in practice, the value prop is not there at all.

I have enjoyed a lot of Atmos apple music tracks on my home theater and they are sometimes great and sometimes utter poo poo. The track has to be suited for it, and then the mixing has to be good... it's very hit or miss. But I will say, when it hits, it HITS. Can really be a wonderful experience with a full-fat surround system and the R3s as the backbone.

Right, the home theater in a box stuff is almost universally trash, but at the same time you can get 4x JBL 530s (which I consider to be pretty competent) for $120-140 per speaker. That would make an ok surround setup.

Personally as you can see, I opted for the KEF R3 as my main fronts. And oh MAN they are absolutely loving glorious, just wonderful speakers (even if they are fussy and hard to dial). But all of my side and rear speakers are JBL 530s. And my center is a Martin Logan ribbon-tweeter deal that I got cheap.

So the priority in my system goes:
Fronts >>> Center >> Satellites

And I'm very pleased with those priorities. Though like I said, I do think using a full 530 setup would probably be decent and would be so cheap.

Honestly the use case for surround sound that excites me the most, by far, is gaming, so that's where my setup sees the most use by far.

But yeah- I can agree that powered monitors are perfect for most people. They just wouldn't work for me; I need a good subwoofer. And I really believe in Dirac Live, it's like magic.

Oh you can certainly add a subwoofer if your choice of monitors doesn’t go deep enough for you. I don’t have anything against a 2.1 setup; albeit I don’t need it with my gigantic edifiers. It’s more surround sound for a computer setup (and especially folks buying poo poo like logitech 7.1 all in one systems) that shits me.

Even for a living room/tv room setup though, I think most folks would be better served with a pair of good floorstanders and maybe a subwoofer.

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know
I think you're pretty bang-on, yeah. Floor standers can pump the bass. Wife wouldn't let me put a sub upstairs so we got JBL 580s and they slump for sure, way more than I figured.

I've heard really good things about Edifier so I assume they're doing good work as well.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Taima posted:

I think you're pretty bang-on, yeah. Floor standers can pump the bass. Wife wouldn't let me put a sub upstairs so we got JBL 580s and they slump for sure, way more than I figured.

I've heard really good things about Edifier so I assume they're doing good work as well.

Edifier and swan are both outstanding

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug


Crossposting from the office chair thread. I got a new chair as my lower back was starting to really bother me with my previous, temporary seating setup (a tall office task chair stool thing).

So far I like this chair a lot, it's the herman miller logitech embody gaming chair. Virtually the same as the non-gamer embody. This one was in stock and I didn't want to wait much longer for a chair. I paid full MSRP for this on their site until a fellow goon told me to contact support for 20% off and free shipping. They were happy to credit my account. I was even happy at full MSRP!

It's been roughly a week, my lower back is still a little sore, but I think more of a "learning to sit better" way than "ow it hurts standing up" way.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

dreesemonkey posted:



Crossposting from the office chair thread. I got a new chair as my lower back was starting to really bother me with my previous, temporary seating setup (a tall office task chair stool thing).

So far I like this chair a lot, it's the herman miller logitech embody gaming chair. Virtually the same as the non-gamer embody. This one was in stock and I didn't want to wait much longer for a chair. I paid full MSRP for this on their site until a fellow goon told me to contact support for 20% off and free shipping. They were happy to credit my account. I was even happy at full MSRP!

It's been roughly a week, my lower back is still a little sore, but I think more of a "learning to sit better" way than "ow it hurts standing up" way.

doing exercises that strengthen your core and back can really help

dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug

trilobite terror posted:

doing exercises that strengthen your core and back can really help

That's a good point. I haven't done much exercise lately, I've been getting over pnuemonia and have been afraid to do much of anything strenuous. That's my excuse.

In reality, I've been fine for a while and been pretty lazy about getting back to it.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008




I highly recommend stretching every other day at a minimum. Fuckin love stretching

dema
Aug 13, 2006

Yeah. No matter the chair, if I sit all day, my hips get super tight. Which, in turn, fucks up my lower back.

Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT
I switched to a foam mattress 3 1/2 years ago. While it was a major upgrade over what I had before, it can make my back ache if I stay on it for too long because the memory foam tends to sink in the middle after a few hours. Ironically, the Steelcase Leap v2 I paid $100 for 10 years ago provides instant relief from all this.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal
Embody gang rise up. I bought one almost 10 years ago and while the price is a big eyewatering, it still looks and feels largely like the day I bought it. Well done, past me.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005
I FUCKING HATE POOR PEOPLE BUT I LOVE BEING FUCKED IN THE ASS and having two dishwashers in my CONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://store.hermanmiller.com/gaming-chairs?lang=en_US

Herman Miller, perhaps one of the most important and iconic mass-marketers of high-end furniture and lighting design has a full line of, gaming chairs. I'm speechless.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Three Olives posted:

https://store.hermanmiller.com/gaming-chairs?lang=en_US

Herman Miller, perhaps one of the most important and iconic mass-marketers of high-end furniture and lighting design has a full line of, gaming chairs. I'm speechless.
It’s just different colors. My Aeron is the gaming edition and it’s the same as a fully loaded Aeron, just in a jet black.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

dreesemonkey posted:



Crossposting from the office chair thread. I got a new chair as my lower back was starting to really bother me with my previous, temporary seating setup (a tall office task chair stool thing).

So far I like this chair a lot, it's the herman miller logitech embody gaming chair. Virtually the same as the non-gamer embody. This one was in stock and I didn't want to wait much longer for a chair. I paid full MSRP for this on their site until a fellow goon told me to contact support for 20% off and free shipping. They were happy to credit my account. I was even happy at full MSRP!

It's been roughly a week, my lower back is still a little sore, but I think more of a "learning to sit better" way than "ow it hurts standing up" way.
hell yeah

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005
I FUCKING HATE POOR PEOPLE BUT I LOVE BEING FUCKED IN THE ASS and having two dishwashers in my CONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Josh Lyman posted:

It’s just different colors. My Aeron is the gaming edition and it’s the same as a fully loaded Aeron, just in a jet black.

It just feels so drat weird. It's like if Hermes came out with a "Gaming Blanket" and it was just a Hermes Avalon blanket but green and black. Which fine, gamers need chairs and they also need blankets but also I don't see the logical overlap in the marketing at all. I would just assume that gamers with a lot of money to spend on a chair would fully understand that Herman Miller makes good chairs and not need a specific marketing segment to be reached, especially when "Gaming Chair" doesn't even remotely seem to fit into Herman Millers brand in any other way.

Three Olives fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Apr 26, 2024

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Three Olives posted:

It just feels so drat weird. It's like if Hermes came out with a "Gaming Blanket" and it was just a Hermes Avalon blanket but green and black. Which fine, gamers need chairs and they also need blankets but also I don't see the logical overlap in the marketing at all. I would just assume that gamers with a lot of money to spend on a chair would fully understand that Herman Miller makes good chairs and not need a specific marketing segment to be reached, especially when "Gaming Chair" doesn't even remotely seem to fit into Herman Millers brand in any other way.
huggies needs to make you a gaming diaper

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Three Olives posted:

It just feels so drat weird. It's like if Hermes came out with a "Gaming Blanket" and it was just a Hermes Avalon blanket but green and black. Which fine, gamers need chairs and they also need blankets but also I don't see the logical overlap in the marketing at all.

there was already a big market for mostly lovely mostly anti-ergonomic chairs being marketed at gamers and streamers that was wildly successful for years beforehand. H/M and Logitech just went “well what if we take this existing highly successful and lauded portfolio of task and office seating and make some specific color and material choices to make it fit with Logitech’s gaming gear and point it at the same group of consumers?”

I think Herman Miller’s focus on/reputation for build quality and ergonomics is a more natural fit for the space than you’re giving credit for.

It’s one thing to exclusively look at Herman Miller as a luxury brand selling luxury furniture and classic licensed designs from famous designers like the Eameses, but the bread and butter of their office line has always been 1) long lasting, reliable, durable, serviceable furniture for businesses, offices, schools and universities, libraries, government facilities, and other high-traffic public spaces that is meant to put up with years of heavy use 2) ergonomics and orthopedically-minded seating and work surfaces.

From an “esports” mindset, Herman Miller’s branding is more akin to Nike or Specialized or (insert athletic equipment brand of choice here) than to Hermes. Hermes also has a brand built on quality and durability but those characteristics are used as shorthands for luxury as opposed to high performance.

And from a practical standpoint, spending hours each day in a chair simply makes you appreciate poo poo like ergonomics and build quality, not because you demand the best but because they’re better tools. Like especially as they hit their 30s you see a lot of streamers and content creators switching their gamer chairs for poo poo like H/M or Steelcase. It’s gotten to the point where “finally got my Herman Miller” has become a milestone of sorts for career content creators.

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

I got my Mirra 2 from a guy who wanted to "upgrade" from his office supplied WFH chair to one of those stupid race car gaming chairs. I can't blame real office furniture companies for trying to get in on that market with chairs that aren't pieces of poo poo.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Coxswain Balls posted:

I got my Mirra 2 from a guy who wanted to "upgrade" from his office supplied WFH chair to one of those stupid race car gaming chairs.
hahahahah baby brain move. shouldn’t be allowed to live on his own. put that mental invalid in a conservatorship at once!

Coxswain Balls
Jun 4, 2001

I was biting my lip the whole time we were waiting for the etransfer to go through because he was going on about how he needed to upgrade if he wanted to be taken seriously as a competitive gamer and streamer.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Coxswain Balls posted:

I was biting my lip the whole time we were waiting for the etransfer to go through because he was going on about how he needed to upgrade if he wanted to be taken seriously as a competitive gamer and streamer.
you are a canadian among canadians, as i would be calling this guy the r word the second i got the chair in my car. what a complete loving moron. every aspiring “streamer” should be put to the sword. twitch treblinka now.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

TenementFunster posted:

you are a canadian among canadians, as i would be calling this guy the r word the second i got the chair in my car. what a complete loving moron. every aspiring “streamer” should be put to the sword. twitch treblinka now.

Same same fellow Canadians that guy is a moron let him get his stupid little idiot chair for babies.

My Steelcase leap came from a business that failed, I went to pick it up from their empty office and I must not have looked sad enough about his business failing because buddy said something like 'I guess my loss is your gain'. Yep!

e: ttv velocibacon ty for the bits chat

runawayturtles
Aug 2, 2004
This is why it's good that HM is getting into the "gamer" market. The gaming chair companies sponsor every single streamer they can find so they can saturate the market and prevent gullible viewers from realizing that there are better alternatives. Meanwhile few notice that the truly successful streamers have no need for chair money and go straight back to the good brands.

muskrat
Aug 16, 2004

bredfrown posted:

I was scrolling through this thread and I totally missed this. Probably way too late, but I didn't want to leave you hangin'!

Here is the desk I own, and I've had it for exactly three years now and have had zero problems with it.:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GVRKCWP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here's what my setup looks like now:


Clean setup. What do you use the Macintosh for? Oregon Trail?

bredfrown
Nov 2, 2022

Pixel pusher and game maker.

muskrat posted:

Clean setup. What do you use the Macintosh for? Oregon Trail?

I like to use it for making little HyperCard games and stuff, and I also like to use it as a no-distractions writing machine. :)

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novamute
Jul 5, 2006

o o o
Need to get a new desk now that everything else is nicer but real happy with how this is turning out so far

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