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Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Methanar posted:

I wonder how many people got fired for buying IBM lmao

I mean, it's a meme in IT and also absolutely true. The same could really be said for other vendors, like EMC etc.

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Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Pile Of Garbage posted:

Is that not just what I said? I feel like I'm going insane here. If you just wanna post about war stories then poo poo do it no need to talk it into the convo we all love to read that poo poo :justpost:

Yes, I was affirming what you posted.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002
I got some quotes to replace some old IBM Unified filers. Mixed use - some PACS cache, home directories, random apps, database backups, etc.

One of the quotes was for a NetApp C250 with about 200TB. (And another for replication)

I can find no reason to get anything else, the price/performance ratio on this thing seems too good to be true.

Edit - The other arrays were a NetApp FAS 8300, and EMC Unity 380. Both with mixed disk, ie. not all flash.

Edit 2 - I was leaning EMC Unity until this NetApp came along.

Kaddish fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 18, 2023

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Qwijib0 posted:

Have you gotten a quote on some qumulo archive tier storage? Even that'll do 1GB/sec per node. I'm on my second cluster and the product and support are stellar.

Never even heard of it but I'll check it out!

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

HalloKitty posted:

I think the products are fine, but the rituals you have to perfom to get access to the firmware updates...

I just went through this with HDS supported Brocade directors and it was a nightmare getting the code.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002
Welp, just bought a NetApp c250. I haven't used Ontap in like....10 years. Looks like there's been a few changes! Learning about LUN configuration and what a SVM even is like a little baby.

Edit - Looks like I need to manually enable space_alloc if I'm going to thin provision, thanks admin guide!

Any Ontap gurus here have any tips for an Ontap newbie? This will be 90% Windows client general use.

Kaddish fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Jun 1, 2023

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Pile Of Garbage posted:

Is there any training/professional services hours or something included in your support agreement? Does the outfit that sold it to you provide anything like that? I'd look into that tbh. I'd hope your employer woulda factored this in when purchasing the thing.

Ha, no there was not. We don't usually get training for stuff like this. It's happened like twice in my career.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

evil_bunnY posted:

Up your max inodes. By a lot.

Will do, learned this same lesson when dealing with IBM Unified. I'm guessing any *nix based file is the same.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

kzersatz posted:

Been doing Ontap off and on for the last 12 years or so, currently support 4.5 PB of it :)

My little 100TiB C250 is chugging along nicely. Things have (obviously) changed a lot since the N-Series days.

Unrelated, I'll be going to Spectrum Protect (TSM) training and taking over all backup administration. Not looking forward to it.

We're probably going to transition to something like Veam over the next 3-5 years. In my entire time with my company, I don't remember a time when there wasn't an issue with TSM.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

evil_bunnY posted:

LMAO it takes a 50% consulting FTE to keep ours from eating itself. And there's like 12 people in the (admittedly small) country who can competently manage it. When they hired another tech they had to get a fully remote icelandic guy :eng99:

Replication hasn't been working for at least 6 months, despite bringing in outside help to get it running again. Supposedly there is an APAR to fix this, but I don't know what it's for. Our current backup admin isn't bothering to do decoms etc, they just need someone to at least do the the day maintenance. It also runs on AIX, which I'm not super familiar with so. Yeah.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002
Anyone have experience with Dell PowerFlex?

I haven't seen pricing yet but I'm going to guess it's extremely expensive?

I'm considering it for a couple of remote hospital sites with aging infrastructure as well as a replication target to a disaster recovery site.

Kaddish fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Apr 16, 2024

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Moey posted:

PowerFlex is outside my needs, so zero help there.

Out of curiosity, what are your workloads and requirements like?

Block? File? Object? All?!?!?
IOPS/Latency requirements?
Space before any backend dedup?

That's just it - I think it may be outside of my needs as well, but Dell is more than happy to sell it to me. I don't have numbers yet.

I am looking at it to replace old infrastructure at two smaller hospital sites - running maybe 20 total VM guests. Both of those sites would replicate to a third disaster recovery site. This would be block, 10kish IOPS, low latency, mixed use. Probably 20TB per site.

I have Pure at my main datacenter that runs the majority of my VM environment that replicates to another Pure array at DR site. I'm really happy with Pure and have no plans to change. The ESX hosts needs a refresh however. I might end up putting smaller Pure arrays at my smaller sites.

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Moey posted:



I could probably get away with one //X and a few //C across my sites/DR.

You definitely could. My x50 sees ~45k iops peaks pretty regularly. Usually sub 1ms latency. This is running on old 16G fabric switches. 533 VM guests currently.

I have my VM environment split between the Pure and a SVC with FlashSystem 5100 backend. Pure is async replication to x20 and SVC is mix of global and metro mirror to SVC pair with 5030 backend.

Kaddish fucked around with this message at 14:47 on Apr 20, 2024

Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Moey posted:

The //C arrays claim sub 3ms latency, which should be acceptable for my VDI stuff, probably even the server workloads.

I'd lose some flexibility with expansion of existing pools going to Pure, but that can be managed.

I'm actually very curious about the //E array. We'll be doing a backup software/hardware refresh in the next couple of years and the //E will probably be a contender to replace all of our disk. 1.5PB of disk, 3PB total with replication.

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Kaddish
Feb 7, 2002

Morbus posted:

incidentally, disk (and probably SSD) prices may be sharply elevated in the near future and remain that way for a while. You may want to consider that if you plan on a significant refresh in the next year.

Interesting, do you have more info on this?

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