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breaks
May 12, 2001

Bazanga posted:

I've been toying around with adding some atmosphere to some songs and ran into this video of an Axe FX setting for "Black Hole" (around 4:30 in the video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TlvoXg9M7w

I figure it's just a ton of reverb and delay, but I can't get the actual strike strikes to fade into the background like he's managing to do in the video. Almost sounds like a synth.

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're asking, he's just using the volume knob on the guitar to mute the attacks and then fade in the sustained notes.

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Bazanga
Oct 10, 2006
chinchilla farmer

breaks posted:

Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're asking, he's just using the volume knob on the guitar to mute the attacks and then fade in the sustained notes.

Oh, durr, I didn't even notice that. That's cool. Thanks!

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I'm looking to do some mean and moody stuff like the stuff here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dyjSo9nAdc

Especially all those intro sounds, how would you go about those?

Bazanga
Oct 10, 2006
chinchilla farmer
I can replicate those sounds pretty well by dragging the pick up and down roundwound strings. Maybe give that a try?

Rugoberta Munchu
Jun 5, 2003

Do you want a hupyrolysege slcorpselong?
Probably would need a wah pedal too.

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

YOU CAN'T MOVE WITH ME IN THIS DIGITAL SPACE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aztslgyuoV0

I've listened to the lead in this a hundred times and it's kind of mystifying me. Is it a synth or like, a sampled guitar with a filter on it? Any idea? I'd really like to replicate it.

Aunt Teefa
Mar 17, 2015


I've been exploring/learning synthesizers and sound creation for a few weeks now and I'm trying to recreate some sounds from some of my favorite songs, and one in particular I KNOW is simple I can't seem to nail down. It's like it's so obvious and simple that it's hard to dial it in perfectly. I feel like an idiot but I think it's just that my ears aren't quite trained to pick out the nuances of a synth to figure out the building blocks. Anyways, here's my request, I'm sure some of you will identify it right off the top of your head:

1) The underlying bass synth
2) that lead/pad synth

in Foster the People's "Hold On We're Going Home" by Drake cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfQhLlLhUTc

I'm working with Massive and FM8 for what it's worth. Thanks for your help.

precedence
Jun 28, 2010
DJ snake gets some cool sounds from what i'm pretty sure is a sampler. Like this . Is it possible to get that type sound with a soft synth? It seems to me like it's a fairly straight forward wave, but maybe it's more complicated than i give it credit for.

slowfreq
Dec 14, 2014

precedence posted:

DJ snake gets some cool sounds from what i'm pretty sure is a sampler. Like this . Is it possible to get that type sound with a soft synth? It seems to me like it's a fairly straight forward wave, but maybe it's more complicated than i give it credit for.

i doubt you could make that sort of voice in at least any synth i know of. you'd be best off just sampling an acapella or something

precedence
Jun 28, 2010

slowfreq posted:

i doubt you could make that sort of voice in at least any synth i know of. you'd be best off just sampling an acapella or something

okay. thanks for the quick response. I guess it's time to learn to use samplers.

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien

slowfreq posted:

i doubt you could make that sort of voice in at least any synth i know of. you'd be best off just sampling an acapella or something

Romplers are synths too. Pretty common "vocal dah" patch. As far as soft synths, I bet the e-mu proteus soft synth has, like, a dozen similar patches. The korg m-1 softsynth has a few as well.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

https://youtu.be/P9BfvPjsXXw

I'm curious about something here: 29 seconds in, that metallic sound that has a soft attack.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
I'd try something like a noise with heavy tremolo, a resonant bandpass for getting the tone, put a damped, 100% wet reverb on it as an insert (so only the reverb is played and not the original sound).

SousaphoneColossus
Feb 16, 2004

There are a million reasons to ruin things.
Can anyone recommend a cheapish reverb pedal that can do ambient/near-infinite decay like these pedals:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bntKrgUAv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EGbHGHRkHg

Those are around $100-150 and I'm hoping to spend no more than $50-60 (used in any working condition is fine).

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

How do I get a cheesy "rising synth pad" sound like in the intro here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m65rAfsjllw

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien

massive spider posted:

How do I get a cheesy "rising synth pad" sound like in the intro here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m65rAfsjllw

PEG

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
Actually, polyphonic portamento. It's a clone of the Deep Note sound which consists of several oscillators (well, virtual ones - back then it was programmed in C) that start in the center and resolve to stacked octaves.

Just crank the portamento up, first hit a bunch of keys close together, then play octaves simultaneously.

PEG (Pitch Envelope Generator) will not work - then, the pitch of every key pressed will rise for a fixed amount. So you play a Cm and end up with a Gm or something.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I would love to know how to redo the synth found at the beginning of this video (the Retroware opener)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbCuUQbr_mQ

I know it's close to, if not exactly the same as, the synth sounds of FEZ, which I loved.

utamaru
Mar 8, 2008

BRAP BRAP BRAP BRAP

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I would love to know how to redo the synth found at the beginning of this video (the Retroware opener)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbCuUQbr_mQ

I know it's close to, if not exactly the same as, the synth sounds of FEZ, which I loved.

Here is close to, if not exactly the same as, the thing you are looking for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH04VJ8jxvo

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

utamaru posted:

Here is close to, if not exactly the same as, the thing you are looking for:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH04VJ8jxvo

Thanks a bunch! :toot:

Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Looking for some advice on how to recreate two sounds from this techno track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sduHXbWZ7Fs

First sound is that unique, crazy bassline right at the start that pulses an octave up and down. It has some kind of magical, fuzzy, mid-range frequency quality that I have been unable to replicate.

The second sound starts around 1:33 and is this fairly simple sine-wavey, water-droplet thing that scales upwards. It seems to have an ever so slight transient quality to it. I feel like it should be simple to replicate, but I have also been unsuccessful with it. Reminds me of stuff I'd hear in Tourian from Super Metroid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSPsevDDgJ4) and gave me a bit of a nostalgia kick when I first heard it. :shobon:

breaks
May 12, 2001

#1 sounds like kick(s) through reverb to me which is pretty common techno bass. The basic idea is very simple, just run a kick, or any percussive sound with some bass to it, through a reverb and EQ/filter it all so that it's a nice rumbley bass sound. You can use the kick from your track, a separate kick, multiple kicks, sometimes you let some dry kick through and sometimes you don't, you can use a short or long reverb, or even two reverbs. Don't be afraid to go nuts with the EQ/filter. This particular one also what sounds to me like a distorted filter sweepy sound in it or layered on top on every downbeat... There are a shitton of variations on the basic idea, it seemed to really take flight when minimal was on the way out and proper techno was on the way back in, and has been really common ever since.

Water drop sound, I think you've pretty much identified it. A water drop is basically just a sine kick type patch played higher up. Take such a patch, probably dial in a bit less of a pitch drop, draw in some 2-3 beat strings of sixteenth notes, automate the pitch up over the course of each string, add some reverb, you're pretty close to the sound in this track. This kind of sound is very simple so it's entirely about making subtle adjustments to it to get something that's perfect for the context it's in, you can play around with envelope shapes, try different amounts of pitch drop, you can throw a little FM in there in the attack portion. Sometimes there can be some positive pitch modulation heard on the release, using filtered noise with high resonance instead of a sine osc can give it some texture. There's also a VST called Water by Xoxos for making big polyphonic clouds of raindrop sounds, that can go from single drop to rainstorm to frying pan.

breaks fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Aug 30, 2015

philkop
Oct 19, 2008

Chomp chomp chomp...We have the legendary Magic Beans
Goon Made Wallets
.
Trying to get something similar to the talking voice here in Daft Punk's WDPK 83.7 (not the part saying music, but the announcer)

And "Teachers" on the same album, which I imagine is just + octave and - octave, but I can't replicate it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0mtZapDH_Y&t=3m0s

E:Also I'd be interested in any other cool voice effects. I use ableton and I'm working on putting together an effect rack with just cool vocal effects I can mess with while I'm jamming. (I'm not a singer, so I'm looking for some really out there stuff.)

philkop fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Sep 9, 2015

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I'm trying to come up with a sound similar to the heavy distorted sound at 5:20 in the following video:

https://youtu.be/ZhhQrFfzFM4?t=320

Nothing I come up with sounds that full and coherent, while still being super heavy. Is there a guitar in there or is it all synth?

Bolange
Sep 27, 2012
College Slice

COOL CORN posted:

I'm trying to come up with a sound similar to the heavy distorted sound at 5:20 in the following video:

https://youtu.be/ZhhQrFfzFM4?t=320

Nothing I come up with sounds that full and coherent, while still being super heavy. Is there a guitar in there or is it all synth?

I don't really have anything to add but that's by far my favorite Carpenter Brut song. Love his sound design!

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord

COOL CORN posted:

I'm trying to come up with a sound similar to the heavy distorted sound at 5:20 in the following video:

https://youtu.be/ZhhQrFfzFM4?t=320

Nothing I come up with sounds that full and coherent, while still being super heavy. Is there a guitar in there or is it all synth?

Kinda answered my own question by playing around with it, but saw waves spread over three octaves, put through a distorted guitar amp, and then sidechain compressed to the kick gets prettttty close.

AxeBreaker
Jan 1, 2005
Who fucking cares?

lol u poz bro posted:

I've been exploring/learning synthesizers and sound creation for a few weeks now and I'm trying to recreate some sounds from some of my favorite songs, and one in particular I KNOW is simple I can't seem to nail down. It's like it's so obvious and simple that it's hard to dial it in perfectly. I feel like an idiot but I think it's just that my ears aren't quite trained to pick out the nuances of a synth to figure out the building blocks. Anyways, here's my request, I'm sure some of you will identify it right off the top of your head:

1) The underlying bass synth
2) that lead/pad synth

in Foster the People's "Hold On We're Going Home" by Drake cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfQhLlLhUTc

I'm working with Massive and FM8 for what it's worth. Thanks for your help.

I can't get it 100% right on my digital gear, but that's not surprising given what they're using. The bass is a Moog Sub37, a 2 oscillator 1 sub oscillator paraphonic analog synth. I think it's using 2 oscs on a pulse wave. The other one is an Electron analog keys, a 2 osc 2 sub analog polysynth. They are using what sounds like a sawtooth wave with some LPF and a bit of vibrato and the sub oscillators at -1 octave.

You could probably do both of these in Massive (both have -24 Db filter slopes, and hell the base has very little filter) but a moog clone like Monark will probably come closer to the bass more easily.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
That's a Prophet '08, not an Analog Keys.

AxeBreaker
Jan 1, 2005
Who fucking cares?

Ok, true, still an analog polysynth.

Nigel Tufnel
Jan 4, 2005
You can't really dust for vomit.
I've got a guitar tone doozy that I'm trying to figure out. This rockabilly / delay / reverb thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=howeE6To1bA

I'm assuming some sort of very mild overdrive, tremolo, delay and a poo poo ton of reverb but I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions?

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
Why not where you posted?

zeldadude
Nov 24, 2004

OH SNAP!
https://youtu.be/iwUNo5HCpjc

How can I get this super warm synth that starts at around 0:48? Has a horn-esque feel to it. Seems like it should be super simple with some filter envelopes but I can't get it nearly as thick. Also god drat the chords in this remix are amazing.

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

Nigel Tufnel posted:

I've got a guitar tone doozy that I'm trying to figure out. This rockabilly / delay / reverb thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=howeE6To1bA

I'm assuming some sort of very mild overdrive, tremolo, delay and a poo poo ton of reverb but I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions?

Just going off my mind here: You have the obvious - the tremolo and reverb. I hear a lot of amp and guitar tone out of that though. I think its something like a fender delux but heavily overdriven with the guitar volume knob rolled back to get that filter effect. Got to turn the amp up all the way to get that sound.

Acelerion
May 3, 2005

Here are some classics and a new one - all squarepusher.

I would really like to understand how to make vocal synth pads like the intro heard here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G01DKEig14

I know its very layered but there is one particular voice that comes in around 0:50 that carries the chorale feel.

Similar deal on the intro here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD3vr7_Al88

Its got some vocal qualities to it that are interesting.

Finally, a new one. The lead synth that starts here at 1:18: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewZUfvuqYA0

around 1:45 he starts getting feedback harmonics on it that sound really powerful.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Can't do an effortpost on this, but some keywords: formant filters, vocal wavetables or sampling and looping a few cycles of a choral sound. There are vocal synthesis oriented vstis as well.

My money's on the sampling being the easiest and most flexible. There's a bunch of gregorian chants out there barely using chords, if at all, which would be a good source. You want to play with the number of cycles you need to loop to make it sound uncanny valley-like, human but not quite. In your exaples it sounds a bit grainy, so maybe granular resynthesis is involved as well.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Need a bit of help with this one, and I'm using the ES2 in Logic 9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8nZrOQETN4

0:17 seconds in, what's the best way to get that bass sound?

Rupert Buttermilk fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Dec 16, 2015

Sad Mammal
Feb 5, 2008

You see me laughin
This isn't strictly music related, so I apologize, but I've had a serious hankering to create spoken word with a properly vintage sound to it. Not an artificial vinyl pop/crackle filter slapped over something, but something that sounds legitimately aged. Something like this Tom Waits monologue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=682_q3ES02s


Is going with retro equipment my only solution?

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



There are enough tape and tube emulations that you can drive into the red for that. Bonus if the tape emulation can introduce some hiss. You'd also need to do some old timey bandpassing before and after with an equalizer, probably, where the curve type will matter a lot.

Getting a vaguely similar effect is easy. The difficult thing is balancing it out so it sounds good and credible. You're never far away from overcooking it. Retro gear will sort of give you that in a package, but then with less flexibility to tune it to the timbre of your voice.

You could look into Audio Ease's Speakerphone if you want a comprehensive software solution, but like most all in stuff with this type of function, it costs a couple of hundred bucks. But then so might dedicated retro gear. It's worth experimenting with combinations of free plugins if you just want to add a subtle edge though.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I'd have some fun with that, maybe get something crappy like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sanyo-TRC-800C-Compact-Cassette-Recorder-Dictaphone-/231813841461?hash=item35f92e8235:g:tTQAAOSwKtlWl8It

Record into it then mic it up and play it back.
I could see that becoming a fun project

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Siets
Sep 19, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Trying to emulate this extremely warm and otherworldly pad sound from Edit Select - Phlox Intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLhrsWAfArU

I know how to get the motion on it, with the obviously long attack and decays, as well as the pitch warble that is occurring likely with a tape media emulation plugin or a simple randomized LFO on pitch.

What I can't seem to get the same is the overall timbre of the sound. To my very novice and untrained ears, it sounds maybe like a heavily detuned polyphonic series of saw waves run through a low-pass filter with another set of the same on the rack playing a few octaves lower to add to the low end further, but I just can't seem to get it. My worry is that it's some mystical application of FM synthesis for the base sound and that I'm stuck experimenting with FM knobs until something comes close.

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