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Embassytown is insanely good. Best thing he's written since The Scar.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2015 01:30 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:29 |
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MeLKoR posted:No doubt the revolution would be crushed, the question is if they were willing to die did Judah have the right to prevent them from doing it? I think I'm inclined to agree with Judah on this, their death now would serve no purpose and this way they'll be a daily reminder to the people of New Crobuzon that they aren't alone, that others all around them hate the government even if they have to keep their heads down for now. The revolution lives still.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2015 18:20 |
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The Tane.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2017 20:39 |
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The Red and White Bloc
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 00:33 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:is there such a thing as non-mediocre gaiman
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 09:15 |
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Cardiac posted:Mievilles idea that everything is politics is just plain boring. Sam Kriss wrote a good article on why HP is inherently fascist Lunchmeat Larry fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Mar 30, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 09:09 |
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She's not in support of it explicitly but she absolutely holds it up as a good thing worth preserving in the face of anything else, which is all a bit banality of evil, is a bit weird whrn its a wealthy English woman explaining why a society built on slavery is noble at heart and worth defending, and leads very quickly to her recent ramblings that Jeremy Corbyn is as bad as the Nazis and Scottish independence supporters are Dementors
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 22:24 |
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the negro hordes in LotR are the literal negro hordes, I think not sure about dwarves being Jews but Harry Potter does have its treacherous, untrustworthy, extremely clever big-nosed gold-lovers who control the banking system
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 16:21 |
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I really didn't like TC&TC at all but I seem to be the only person in the world with that opinion so I think I definitely njeed to give it a re-read
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2017 16:36 |
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Embassytown is fantastic because it's a beautifully written book of speculative fiction about language rather than the sciences. It's both a very rare breed and an excellent example of its type.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2017 21:31 |
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uber_stoat posted:here's an intersection of people I follow that I wasn't expecting. China on Chapo Trap House: and also entirely expectable tbh
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# ¿ May 22, 2017 11:00 |
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The Scar or Embassytown are probably his two best books. The Scar has a pretty unsatisfying ending though - intentionally - so while I wouldn't let that put you off it might be worth reading a different book first. FWIW I agree with you about Three Moments.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 10:39 |
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anilEhilated posted:Miéville has this thing about anticlimax. Maybe he's trying to subvert the expectations of a satisfying ending in the same way he dislikes happy endings, I don't know, but I think he really overblew it in most of Three Moments. Haven't read anything later of his yet so I'm still hoping it won't turn into (even more of) a trend. October has one too :trotsky:
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2017 18:56 |
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Embassytown is objectively his best novel because it's half left hand of darkness homage and half extensive Marxist analysis of linguistics
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2017 02:44 |
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This census taker owns
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# ¿ Nov 24, 2017 13:16 |
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Census Taker is obviously meant to be *maybe* set in maybe Bas Lag. It's also not remotely relevant to the story being told, he's just throwing a bone to fans in a silly short story from three moments that got published as a stand-alone for some reason
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# ¿ Nov 26, 2017 05:17 |
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Nah it was too much
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2018 15:02 |
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Bilirubin posted:Just got a copy of This Census Taker on the cheap. How disappointing will this decision prove to be? It's really good
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# ¿ Jun 24, 2018 15:28 |
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I read that a while ago and didn't really know what to make of it. I don't want to dismiss it but it's so vague it's hard to go on, so I've kept an eye out for anything else about it and have never seen anything I mean if he's a lovely serial cheater that sucks but I genuinely can't work out what the claim of emotional abuse is referring to. What did he do? The legal threats are probably the most troubling and weird part of the whole thing even if the rest isn't true. I dunno.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2018 16:41 |
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Sampatrick posted:China Mieville has a PhD in International Relations from the London School of Economics, specifically focused on Marxism and International Law. I get that he has written a lot of fiction, but it's absurd to pretend like he isn't an expert when it comes to Marxism. Have a scan of Cardiac's posts ITT, he's really not a fan of the leftism lol
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 00:16 |
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Oasx posted:As much as I love Bas-Lag and want more of it, I just want him to do more longer fiction. His short stories and novellas have been mediocre to decent.
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# ¿ Mar 3, 2019 14:39 |
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toot toot
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# ¿ May 16, 2019 17:10 |
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Quandary posted:What did people think of Three Moments of an Explosion? I've read a number of the stories and it seems like most have a really fascinating premise, but kinda fizzle out without much closure or attempt at an ending. I guess that's by design?
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2019 14:54 |
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FPyat posted:A guy I know thought Iron Council was Trotskyist propaganda. I guess I can see it as a literalized Permanent Revolution.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 15:48 |
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a foolish pianist posted:I think it's more like now he has enough dollars that he can afford to work on only stuff he finds really interesting. October was good but it was hardly a deep analysis that will stay with us for the ages so I'm wondering where he's going with his upcoming stuff, we'll see I guess
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2021 21:16 |
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Tosk posted:I found myself wondering what had happened to China Mieville not long ago, and found a rather unpleasant answer: scroll down to Sablefool's comment that begins with 'Whilst we do not live in...' It has come up here in the past (the original blog post from 2012, not the reddit recap). It's difficult to really establish what happened in any concrete detail - could just have been a nasty breakup, maybe he's just a lovely boyfriend, could have been a genuine abuse situation. Sablefool (whose writing here is broadly insufferable lol) compares him to Ellis but there's no real specificity as to what he actually did - it does sound like there's a similarity in that it's about gaslighting and power imbalance but I'm not sure we have enough to really compare him to how serious the issues were with Ellis? Not that we need every gory detail and I don't want to downplay it, but I don't really know what to take from what we do have. It does seem fairly clear that part of the reason it's all so vague is that he made legal threats which is undeniably lovely and that alone makes it hard to trust him. It's the first time I've seen his low profile connected to the situation and I think that's a reach to be honest; he's pretty successfully cracked down on the whole thing and it was 10 years ago, he went quiet much more recently than that. e: yeah it was a good few years ago we discussed it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=2994531&pagenumber=61&perpage=40#post485568937
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2022 21:00 |
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I always thought City and the City was the least interesting of his books because that's just what Glasgow/Belfast are like irl
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 22:38 |
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Poldarn posted:It's been a while since I read this one but I think the twist is that there are no supernatural aspects, it's just people lying to themselves.
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2023 02:59 |
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FPyat posted:I'd call that the opposite of the truth. People need to stake out what exactly their terms are when there is no wide consensus about it (after all, people can't even settle whether Star Wars is SF); rather, it is when there is wide agreement that there is no need to get into the convoluted specifics. If you want your own view of its meaning to be immaterial, then you don't have much cause to declare it bonkers to adopt one of the other definitions in the contested social discourse that decides what science fiction is. Everything you post is making me want to find a lost genie and get three wishes and use every one of them to go back in time and bully you more in high school
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# ¿ Jun 3, 2023 08:24 |
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I picture them like... my mother in law!!
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2023 12:42 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 21:29 |
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Oasx posted:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/jan/10/keanu-reeves-and-china-mieville-to-release-collaborative-novel-the-book-of-elsewhere Figured we were getting something like this.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2024 22:22 |