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Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004
I thought TC&TC was a fun read, although pretty badly written. It seems like China is never sure what voice to use in any of his books and always picks one that is never quite natural. I really liked that there was nothing supernatural, although it took some suspension of disbelief to accept this city could ever exist - it would have been pretty easy to cross from one city to the other without being detected, and smugglers especially would have done it all the time with impunity, and people would commit crimes in one city and then go back to their own to evade police all the time as well.

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Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004

Team Black Zion posted:

I love that people read loads of speculative fiction written from a propagandized Western world/capitalist mindset without question but as soon as an author decides to mirror real life class struggle and civil rights issues in his fiction they go screaming about communism and socialism.

Books aren't meant to provoke thought, they're meant to masturbate your nerd boner.

Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004

McCaine posted:

Oh I just found this thread. Thanks Hedrigall for the great thread and making me finally read The Iron Council! Unsurprisingly, I loved precisely the political stuff the best, unlike most people in this thread apparently. I have to admit I don't care at all for horror though so the 'new weird' doesn't appeal to me.

Also I know someone personally who in turn knows the guy well. I keep hoping she'll introduce me :kiddo:

Aren't you in different countries?

Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004

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It starts to hail ferociously from what has been a warm(ish) blue sky minutes after I arrive at China Miéville's home in north-west London. I am startled, but Miéville takes it in his stride; after all, this is exactly the sort of thing which goes on in his particular brand of monster-ridden, literary urban fantasy.

Hahaha :allears:

Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004
Kraken is one of the worst books I've ever read. The characters are cartoons, the story is derivative and boring and the writing is horrible. Here is some of it.

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"Vardy, you reading lolcats?" She peered over the edge of his computer screen. He looked at her without warmth. "I can has squid back?" she said. "Nooooo! They be stealin my squid!"
"You're not supposed to smoke in here."
"And yet, eh?" she said. "And loving yet." She dragged. He looked at her with calm dislike. "What a state of the world, eh?" she said.
"Well, quite."


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Ornerily, it was not the fantasies that inspired most knackers, not Buffy, Angel, American Gothic or Supernatural. It was the science fiction. Time travel was out, the universe not having fixed lines, but sorcerer fans of Dr. Who made untraditional wands, disdaining willow for carefully lathed metal and calling them sonic screwdrivers. Soothsayer admirers of Blake's 7 called themselves Children of Orac. London's fourth-best shapeshifter changed her name by deed-poll to Maya, and her surname to Space1999.
There were those magicians who expressed allegiance to more recherché series - empatechs who would not be quiet about Star Cops, culture-surfing necromancers hooked on Lexx - and a younger generation naming themselves for Farscape and Galactica ("The remake of course")


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You actually said "toerags", Collingswood said. "Are you auditioning for something?"
"Alright," he said vaguely. He sniffed. "Arseholes."
"gently caress's sake, boss," Collingswood said. "Up your game. Shitfoxes."
"Bastards."
"Spitfish, boss. Fucklizards. Little cuntwasps. Munching wanktoasters." Baron stared at her. "Oh yeah," Collingswood said. "That's right. I got game. Say my name."


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"Alright, I'm going back to the museum," Vardy said. "See if I can make a little more sense of this. Just once," he said with abrupt savagery, "in a goddrat while, it would really be a pleasure if the goddamn world worked the way it's supposed to. I am tired of the universe being such a bloody aleatory frenzy all, the bloody time."
He sighed and shook his head. Gave an abashed, tight brief smile at Collingswood's surprise.

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There were a few pedestrians on the street, but far too few for what was still not yet night. Those out moved like what they were - people in a regime at war. There was police tape around the building. Armed officers waving them back, cauterising the area.

Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004
This page is a pretty good illustration of why books about spaceships and elves being raped are so lovely. It's because the people who read them only want to be jerked off by the books and complain about anything that doesn't stroke their nerd boner. Just imagine the books about elf rape we could have if it wasn't for the nerds.

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Saerdna
Aug 8, 2004

SaviourX posted:

There was elf rape as backstory in Dragonlance :colbert:

In that case I am forced to retract my argument vis a vis nerds.

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