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GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

down1nit posted:

Opera Mobile is still pretty unusable on my TyTn II, but I suspect would be pretty good on a more powerful phone.

I'm actually quite happy with Opera Mobile 9 on my TyTN II, although it takes about a second to render things when I scroll. My last mobile browser was Pocket IE5 on a really cheap Windows Mobile 5 PDA, though, so maybe everything looks good in comparison. I'm also running a fairly well-optimized custom WM6.1 ROM, though, so it's probably a bit faster than it would be on factory settings.

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GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

down1nit posted:

what rom are you using? I'm using some Dutty rom that was supposed to be the bees knees. getting tired of random glitches and hangs when i use the slide qwerty, and have been wanting to reload a slick stripped to the bones rom.

I'm using a Hyperdragon III rom from early November, but it's not nearly the most stripped down rom out there - this one might be worth a look. I think Dutty switched over to making roms for the HTC Diamond sometime before I got my Kaiser last October, so his stuff is quite a bit out of date now.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
Does anyone know how to block clickjacking in 9.6x? I'm getting tired of having ads pop up every time I click anywhere on certain sites, but I'm also worried about the security implications of invisible screen-sized links. Is there some kind of UserJS that will eliminate this issue? I haven't been able to find anything yet but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

kapalama posted:

What sites (other than the porn torrent sites) do this?

Quite a few now, but GamesRadar is the one that sticks in my head to the point that I avoid it entirely. The others are random poo poo from Digg/Metafilter that I'll only ever see once, except for the occasional time on Snopes - I think that's a particular banner ad, though, since it happens randomly.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
Ok, both of my Opera 9.64 installs on two completely different machines decided to crash yesterday and delete all my sessions, including the auto-saved ones. Since I use open tabs as soft bookmarks, that's a bit of a pain in the rear end. Has this happened to anyone else, or did I just have really poo poo luck yesterday?

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
RC time! It takes over the main Opera path and upgrades your 9.x now instead of using the beta path, so if you want to keep 9.64 for now you should probably not install this yet.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
I may be the only person in the world who uses tabs on the left, but hopefully one of you guys can answer this: with the tab bar aligned left and set to wrap to multiple lines, does everyone else have a space at the bottom of the bar that won't fill with tabs? It's about 2 tabs tall maximized, but if I resize the window it can be as small as 1 tab high - resizing smaller than that causes a tab to hop to the next line and makes the space 2 tabs high again.

This was not a problem in 9.64, but both a clean 10 install and an upgrade from 9.64 have the same issue. Any idea how to reclaim that space, or is this a bug that Opera needs to fix?

Edit: a bit of testing shows that it's exactly the height of the New Tab button and the extender menu >> button put together. Why are those having space saved for them when I've removed the first and turned the second off by selecting wrap to multiple lines? Beats me.

GobyWan fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Sep 11, 2009

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

Lakitu7 posted:

If you need space that much, try using the Window list panel instead of the regular tab bar. It's functionally the same with much smaller text to fit more tabs, and you can toggle in on/off with at an instant.

I gave that a try, but I found the lack of right-click options, unread tab indicators and various other things to be frustrating and not really worth the extra screen real estate. Ideally, I'd like to be able to open up the right click + mousewheel tab selector and then click on the tab I'm after, and I'd also like to have the option of showing a thumbnail for each tab in a speed dial-esque grid - basically Vista's alt-tab, but for the browser. With a more powerful pop-up tab selector and an easy way to show and hide the address bar, I could spend most of my time in fullscreen and not worry about screen real estate.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

down1nit posted:

On another note, RE: HTC TyTN II:

gently caress resistive touchscreens, I need me a capacitive. The HTC Leo is just in time. I could only imagine a zune hd port of mini 5.

I can deal with the resistive touchscreen, especially with a fairly small screen like the TyTN II's. What really gets me is the goddamn screen bezel that makes it incredibly hard to use anything at the edge of the screen (like most onscreen keyboards, anything with a "scroll through categories" feature like iContact or Resco Explorer, etc. etc. why the hell won't Rogers pick up the Touch Pro 2 so I can have a nice big flat screen without paying $800 for it?)

That said, if Mini 5 is that awesome it may displace Mobile 9.7 beta 1 as my browser of choice. Gonna go try that out now.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
Has anyone on Windows 7/Vista noticed if this version uses native open and save dialogs instead of the legacy XP ones that 10.10 insists on keeping? It's always bugged me that Microsoft finally improved something annoying about Windows and then Opera went ahead and ignored it.

Also, as someone who uses tabs as 'soft bookmarks' and has anywhere from 50 to 200 of them open at a time in 2-5 different windows, I really, really hope there's an option to turn off Aero Peek for individual tabs.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
And it's out! Going to upgrade in the morning, see if it craps itself on my custom menus and whatnot. Anyone recommend a completely clean install, or am I OK to upgrade from 10.10?

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
So this is more like RC5 or beta 3 than final, then? I think I'm going to hold off until they actually finish this version, rather than use the "oh gently caress the browser choice screen hits TODAY GOGOGOGOGO!!!!" build.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
I've been holding off doing a clean install of 10.5x because of all the bugs people are running into and the fact that 10.5 was clearly pushed out the door just in time for the browser ballot. Is there a point to waiting for a new version, or should I just install 10.51 and be done with it?

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

I seriously did not think this would happen, ever. It's a direct competitor to a built-in Apple app, that's usually an instant rejection. I think Wozniak has staged a coup or something.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

kapalama posted:

YouTube has seemingly fixed itself even for people like me (Opera 9.64, Mac).

This site, owever does not load for me:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/how-jamie-foxxs-laverne-shirley-came-to-be,39508/

Does anyone else have problems with getting avclub to load?

Win7 x64, 10.10, and I have to disable Javascript on the AV Club site or half their articles won't load at all. No idea why, but it's been going on forever.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

Buml0r posted:

Hello, sorry about this but I need a hand with something.

Opera randomly reset all its settings when I opened it today, so I've lost all my bookmarks, wand passwords, etc. This is an easy fix though, because I keep all that stuff on my E:/ drive rather than C - I know that's weird, but I do. Opera having reset, it's started new files on C for some reason.

So all I need to do is tell Opera to look on E for everything, but is there a quick way to do that rather than have to go through the endless user prefs in opera:config changing any directory URL I find?

I've gone and forgotten how I actually did this in the first place, but I'm sure I remember being able to select the basic directories for things in a dedicated window, I just can't find it in the prefs any more. :/

This is quite old, and I have yet to test it because I don't need to actually do it myself, but this guide may work for you. It's essentially the same as going through opera:config manually, but you can do a find and replace on the various paths if you open the .ini in Notepad or something.

Also: does anyone know how to make the default 10.5 skin not look like rear end under Vista, maximized, with tabs on the left? I've got that terrible Aero reflection/glare thing making my tab bar hard to read, because Vista turns off transparency when it's maximized and puts a dark blue background behind the overlay. The white overlay's still there when it's not maximized, but it's much less annoying.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

sbaldrick posted:

enabling inline frames did fix the load problem which is good.

I now have another problem with embedded videos not showing up (it's on fleshbot alright). Anyone else having this issue.

Usually, when any kind of embedded anything doesn't work for me, I've inadvertently blocked it from some other site, or the site I'm on is trying to force me to turn off my ad-blocker by routing videos or whatever through a common ad server. Right click on page -> Block Content -> Details will show you what's blocked and let you fix it; I don't know the source of the problem if that's not it, though.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need
Ok, I am having an insane problem. I was trying to load an article from smashingmagazine.com, but when I opened it up, it was clearly using the wrong encoding - nonsense characters and nothing else. It opens fine in Chrome, and other articles on that site initially opened without an issue, but now I can't load anything from that site at all. I've cleared out the cookies for that site, the cache, the history, changed the encoding manually, etc. etc. - no luck.

Here's where it gets stupid: once this happened on my desktop (Win7 X64, 10.10) it started to happen for the same site on my laptop (Vista x86, 10.53) as well. I have Opera Link turned on, so I assume the problem is something that's getting synced, but I can't tell what the hell that is. Any suggestions?

Edit: both installs of Opera have randomly crashed, once each, since I posted this. The crash logs were uninformative, so I'm no closer to understanding what's going on.

GobyWan fucked around with this message at 04:03 on May 7, 2010

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

sbaldrick posted:

As much as I love Opera, it is really developing Linuxists. It shouldn't be that hard to get pages to load and render right. At some point if everyone else can render the page then your browser (Opera) is the problem.

I've been using Opera since version 5 or so, and this is the first time in a very long while that a page has just refused to load anything at all. I've seen a few things that didn't render right in 10.10 recently, but 10.5x is even better at compatibility, and it's been at least 2 major versions since I've had to run a backup browser. Besides, I spend far too much time on the internet and I've only ever seen this happen with an actual site once (I've had the same result from Opera deciding it knows how to parse .wmv files for some reason, but that went away around 9.6), so it's not like this is an epidemic. Also, most pages have conditional style sheets for different browsers so that things do in fact render right in IE 6, 7, 7 compatibility mode, 8, 8 compatibility, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, etc. People don't do those for Opera, so Opera ASA has to do the legwork to make things look right, and nowadays they consistently succeed at that.

Also also: It is actually hard to get pages to load and render correctly, especially when they come in 4-6 different versions specific to the rendering quirks of individual browsers and yours isn't one of them. This is why Opera has always had trouble with compatibility, and why it was hard to use as a primary browser before about 9.5. We'd have more than 4-5 robust rendering engines floating around if they were simple to make, and if new ones didn't have to adapt to the way things are rather than dictate how pages should be made.

tl;dr: You would have been right in 2008, now a problem like this is a surprising thing and Opera's compatibility is very good. Also, Smashing Magazine loads fine today, so I guess it was on their end.

Edit: yeah, ok, wall of :words: doesn't help the Linux comparisons, but the attitude's different - nobody here is demanding that everything be changed to work with Opera because that's so rarely necessary anymore.

GobyWan fucked around with this message at 19:22 on May 7, 2010

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

Wheany posted:

Yes, and it will become configurable. By the next alpha/beta release.

I expect so - there are very few things in Opera that aren't configurable. Unfortunately, one of those things is resizing the tab bar while it's on the side of the screen and wrapping to multiple lines. I would very much like to make my tabs smaller without having to use the godawful extender menu to access a bunch of them, but apparently I'm out of luck there.

GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

Wheany posted:

Nope. I assume it was 10.63. Anyway, it's not 11 or 10.70.

I am having the same problem with 2 different 10.63 installs - I have probably 100 tabs open at any given time, which was not a problem in previous versions. Also, this isn't happening constantly to 460 tabs guy, so it's clearly not normal. Opera's using about 1.4 GB every time I open it, and once I've visited enough pages / opened enough things in Flash, the memory usage creeps up to 1.7 GB and then Flash crashes, followed shortly by the browser.

This is happening on Win7 x64, 10.63, and Vista x86, 10.63, although the problem started with an earlier 10.6x. Both installs are using Opera Link, which may be the problem, since it's the only common thread. Anyone know how to fix this without doing 2 clean installs?

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GobyWan
Jun 5, 2006
tiny plastic novelty palm trees are all I need

RoadCrewWorker posted:

I don't know if its a bug, or if i'm just missing some obvious option, but the session autosaving has been irritating me for a while now. It's also happened to me on pretty much every opera version ever, so i kind of fear it maybe by design.

Let's say i'm in a session with 51 tabs open and decide to pull a tab 'out' to create a new window (usually a video player for the second monitor). If i now (accidentally) close the first window with all of my tabs before the pulled out window instance i have no way of restoring that 50 tab session - 'starting' another opera instance will simply create a new tab in the remaining 1 tab window. Quitting that window as well and trying to start opera up fresh just restores the most recent (ergo: only 1 tab) window.

So far it's mostly been a mildly annoying matter of re-opening all the adresses from the browser history, but for some reason it seems like a big oversight considering the polish of both tab-dragging and sessions.

Assuming 10.6x: Click the closed tabs button, you should see "Window <X> - <title of the active tab when you closed the window>". Just tested this on 10.64, it works exactly as expected. If you lack a closed tabs button (it should be on the tab bar by default, I believe) you should definitely add one.

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