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weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



How closely to the original does it follow plot-wise. Feel free to use spoilers to the full extent to answer this one.

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Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

weekly font posted:

How closely to the original does it follow plot-wise. Feel free to use spoilers to the full extent to answer this one.

It's somewhat close. The fundamental structure, where a mine collapse some years ago leads to a mentally unstable survivor who several years later escapes for revenge, is intact. The basic idea that the killer in the bulk of the story is not that survivor is also intact.

What's different is that the background story isn't delivered through an old man but rather played out present time and through an intro newspaper footage. There isn't an annual valentine's festival or rebellious kids having a stand-in party either. In a lot of ways the Valentine's angle is downplayed a bit. And unfortunately, the ending isn't quite as cool as biting off his own arm to escape.

Slasherfan
Dec 2, 2003
IS IT WRONG THAT I ONCE WROTE A HORROR STORY ABOUT THE BUDDIES? YOU KNOW, THE TALKING PUPPIES?
What where the screenings like you guyswent to? How full? How did audience react to movie?

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

Slasherfan posted:

What where the screenings like you guyswent to? How full? How did audience react to movie?

I think they generally had a 10pm showing in a lot of theaters on Thursday in lieu of a midnight showing. Audience was modest but it's friggin cold here and the day before advertised. Good reactions like you'd expect from a first showing crowd like that.

Shampy
Apr 27, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Slasherfan posted:

What where the screenings like you guyswent to? How full? How did audience react to movie?

The theater was packed with people. This was in Miami.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Found a theater near me that has it in 3D, which was a lot harder than I thought it would be. I'll probably go see it by myself during matinee hours, since all my friends make fun of me for wanting to see it :(

Will report later, of course.

qbert
Oct 23, 2003

It's both thrilling and terrifying.
It was okay overall. There were good and bad elements. I think ultimately the bad outweighs the good and you're left thinking you just saw a crappy movie with cool elements.

Good:
- The 3D. Probably better integrated than any other live-action film I can think of. Most of the scenes don't really jump out at you so much as create multiple levels of depth within the shot. It really emphasizes the "this is in the foreground, this is in the middleground, this is in the background" feeling. Pretty cool. There were also a lot of "pop out of the screen in your face" moments too, and I enjoyed them all. The 3D is by far the best thing about the film. This would've utterly sucked without it.

- The story isn't half bad. It's a mish-mash of a lot of different slasher tropes from the 80s and 90s. Scream is borrowed from heavily, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. The mystery of the killer is well-presented. I thought I had it figured out who it was early on, but they threw in just enough elements to make me doubt myself, only for it to turn out I was right in the end. But I enjoyed the red herring elements.

- It's a pure, old-school slasher through and through. And that's refreshing. One thing that annoys me about today's torture-porn fascination is the emphasis on prolonging the death of the victims, so that the audience can revel in their suffering or whatever. The beauty of the slasher genre is that kills are brutal but quick. No real suffering, no uncomfortable uneasiness. Pickaxe through the skull or eye-socket, okay with me! Also gratuitous nudity, another staple of slashers.

The bad:

- The directing is crappy. It feels like a tv movie a lot of the time. They obviously hired a DP that didn't know how to properly light the Red camera, and as a result there are a lot of moments that look like cheap video.

- The whole movie looks and feels cheap. I don't know if this was due to a super small budget, or an untalented production designer, but sets feel small and reused. There are like no extras in the movie. I don't think you see more than six people in any one scene together.

- The acting is atrocious. The two male leads are especially bad, with particular emphasis on the Supernatural dude. Jamie King is actually the best actor in the movie, that should tell you how bad the acting is. Which is a shame, because I could imagine the movie would've been much better had it been better casted.


The writer and director were on hand to give a Q&A afterwards. The writer by the way has a small part in the film as the truck driver that bangs gratuitous nudity girl. Neither of them really had anything interesting to say.

Name-drop Fellini
Nov 21, 2001

Better to be king for a night than schmuck for a lifetime.
The movie was a little bit of a let down. It felt like a '90s Scream/Urban Legend style movie that occasionally paid homage to '80s slashers. The 3D stuff was fun and kept it from being a complete disaster but if you don't have a theater showing it in 3D, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless they really enjoyed something like the Black Christmas remake.

The biggest disappointment was the lack of variety in the kills. Aside from the great stuff like the eyeball popping out toward you and Tom Atkins' jaw flying off the screen, most of it was just guessing which part of a character's head the pickaxe would hit this time. By the time Megan and the housekeeper were killed, I was actually glad they kept the deaths offscreen.

I don't mean to be totally negative because the 3D stuff is the main attraction and that delivered, but I went in expecting to see a stupid movie and managed to leave surprised by how dumb it really was.

Slasherfan
Dec 2, 2003
IS IT WRONG THAT I ONCE WROTE A HORROR STORY ABOUT THE BUDDIES? YOU KNOW, THE TALKING PUPPIES?
Wow, I really liked this movie, it was a hell of a lot of fun.
Had some great chase sequences and some cool kills. I kind of wished they had some more creative deaths though.
My biggest complaint was probably the ending when they revealed who the killer was, that was very disapointing.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



Slasherfan posted:

Wow, I really liked this movie, it was a hell of a lot of fun.
Had some great chase sequences and some cool kills. I kind of wished they had some more creative deaths though.
My biggest complaint was probably the ending when they revealed who the killer was, that was very disapointing.

I pretty much agree with all of this. If they really wanted to swerve us they would have had it be Harry Warden for reals this time.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

I had so much loving fun watching that movie.

I had to drive an hour and 15 minutes away from home, because that's where the nearest theater showing this in 3D is, but it was so worth it.

The plot was pretty stupid, yeah, but who gives a gently caress? I mean, I went in there to have a pickaxe shoved through my head without actually dying, and it definitely delivered.

If that doesn't sound appealing to you, don't go see this in 3D (and certainly not 2D). But if you're in it for the visual effects and 3D trickery like I was, I'm sure you'll find yourself entertained.

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl
Just saw this tonight, very fun movie. Outlandish, hilarious, gory as hell, gratuitous female nudity, epic dialogue... it has it all.

I also enjoy the RealD 3d, which was also cool in Beowulf. But yeah, I even enjoy MBV3D more than the original, because this one is just so much more gloriously over the top.

try the new taco place
Jan 4, 2004

hey mister... can u play drums while I sing and play plastic guitar???
It was pretty good. I don't regret it at all. Memorable moments:

The radio voiceover going "It's been 10 years..." immediately followed by 'TEN YEARS LATER' on screen.

The sheriff's mistress saying she's pregnant, and that never being brought up again.

The female cop at the sheriff's residence being THE WORST loving POLICE EVER. My friend quipped as she was going to the door "is she loving 12 years old?"

In the supermarket scene, the sheriff's wife waiting until everything was over to consider pressing the alarm.

The sheriff inexplicably hiding behind the divider in the hospital got a huge laugh.

The Whodunnit? was pretty good. At the end I was thinking they were going to turn the horror movie tropes on their head and make the black deputy be the killer, since he hadn't shown up or done anything in a while. There was also that stupid exchange earlier with him and the real killer at the gravesite.


It was worth the time and money, although like everyone else, I think it loses a lot of appeal without the 3D-ness.

The Remote Viewer
Jul 9, 2001
If they were going to do a 3D horror film, they should have picked a different one. Why not the Friday remake or the upcoming Nighmare On Elm St remake since those both had 3D entries in the past?

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice
Because both of those are high profile enough to be not need a 3D crutch or deal with the hassle of using one, especially considering the limited number of Digital 3D venues that exist. They'll bring in crowds based on name recognition in ways that My Bloody Valentine simply can't.

Evil Vin
Jun 14, 2006

♪ Sing everybody "Deutsche Deutsche"
Vaya con dios amigos! ♪


Fallen Rib
Sold out everywhere around me last night but I managed to get a ticket before it sold out. I had alot of fun with the movie, it's just so over the top. Also I'll see anything in 3D. I hope it does well so we can get the sequel.

try the new taco place
Jan 4, 2004

hey mister... can u play drums while I sing and play plastic guitar???
Friday box office estimates has it in 3rd with ~$30m for the weekend, which is great.

The Remote Viewer
Jul 9, 2001
I'm not entirely sure I *want* it to succeed except for the fact that it may prolong the life of Lion's Gate.

Not only is it not a good film, it's not even a good slasher.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

The Remote Viewer posted:

Not only is it not a good film, it's not even a good slasher.

What was wrong with it, slasher-film-wise?

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

The Remote Viewer posted:

Not only is it not a good film, it's not even a good slasher.

It gleefully includes all the slasher movie conventions, and does them amazingly over the top. This automatically makes it a good slasher, whether or not that makes it a good film is up to you though. :3:

Really though, I'm just glad we can still get slasher movies in theaters. 70's and 80's horror cliches are a lot more fun than the new ones.

HankMcCoy
Jul 26, 2006
Never trust the White man driving the Black van, he's saving all his voodoo for you
Gotta say this - this movie is pretty terrible - bad script, bad acting, bad ending, bad direction...

BUT - I loving loved it. It was exactly what i wanted/expected. all the cliches of old were there in spades. there was enough rifftrax moments to keep my friend and i in hysterics the entire time. Ample gore and nudity (really one scene but that scene is long and amazing). The whole feel was 80's slasher and not a wannabee. The audiance i saw it with was nuts - screaming at the screen poo poo like "He's behind you!" and "Ohh no he didn't" without being groaning ironic. Everyone was laughing and having a good time. Seriously, this isn't a film but rather a theme-park ride... and I mean that in the best possible ways.

Favorite line
"She is my wife, mother of my kids, we sleep in the same bed... and we have SEX!"

so many plotholes to laugh at... but isn't that the point? Jesus, i can make a loving laundry list of hilariously dumb moments and ludicrous plot/character points


But the end did suck, which is a shame

HankMcCoy fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Jan 18, 2009

E.G.G.S.
Apr 15, 2006

I saw it tonight and enjoyed it, if it wasn't in 3D though I probably wouldn't of liked it as much. The 3D effects were really fun.

But in other news, the Friday the 13th bluray has been reviewed at DVDbeaver, and it looks great.

blambert
Jul 2, 2007
you spin me right round baby right round.

HankMcCoy posted:

Everyone was laughing and having a good time. Seriously, this isn't a film but rather a theme-park ride... and I mean that in the best possible ways.


That's exactly what my friend said to me afterwards. As a film, it's nothing great, but if you go in wanting to just have a bit of fun, ready to laugh at the completely over the top bits and plot holes, it's great. Gratuitous gore and nudity, lots of scares, whole audience was laughing and chatting in the quiet bits.. but yeah, in the best way possible. The 3D worked well too, and got a big reaction from the audience at they key 'pop out' moments. The pickaxe with eyeball on the end was my favourite, and the flying pickaxe towards the windshield (Got the biggest scream from the audience).

I can't decide whether the shots that looked really cheap and badly lit were results of the 3Dfy'ing or if they were actually badly done though.

blambert fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Jan 19, 2009

Aggro
Apr 24, 2003

STRONG as an OX and TWICE as SMART
Echoing everyone's sentiments in this thread. I got everything I wanted out of it -- full frontal female nudity, some people getting hosed up in horrific fashion, poo poo flying out of the screen, and some homages to the original MBV (shoving someone in the drier). gently caress, it even gets bonus points for having a midget getting loving owned.

The ending was kind of disappointing, because I was really hoping that they'd go for a nice big swerve and have it either be Harry Warden or Black Cop, and I felt that they really hosed the audience over by having a scene that effectively eliminated the killer from speculation by locking him in a loving cage. Oh well -- it was good fun; my friends and I laughed our asses off the entire time and made the people next to us uncomfortable by cheering when people got pickaxed instead of cringing.

JoeRules
Jul 11, 2001
Just got back - and I thought it was a letdown.

The 3D is used well - I think it's particularly useful in the slasher genre because even when there's not some axe flying at your face or flames bursting off the screen, the filmmakers can direct your attention to exactly where they want. As previously said, they really do establish a foreground, middleground, and background in effectively every shot. I was a LITTLE underwhelmed with some of the more in-your-face effects, but not so much to really take away from it. I think when you're talking about one of the first live action RealD movies, a bit too much restraint rather than "HOLY poo poo 3D EVERYWHERE" is probably a good thing.

However....

The rest of the movie is garbage. Maybe I was expecting the wrong thing, because I've never seen the original, but this movie kept a plodding pace until the last 30 minutes. They tried to make up for it with the Whodunnit tale, but that barely kept my attention. There are some really cool moments, but its largely forgettable.

In the end, the 3D is worthwhile and there's some decent moments, but I'd still try to hit a matinee rather than paying full price. If your only option is 2D, well, then don't even bother. I think in the next 2-3 years, we'll see a really well-done 3D slasher, but this one is a barely passable debut for the genre.

djf
Nov 5, 2007
FTH
Went to see this last night but was sold out. Asked the girl at the counter and she said that every screening of the weekend had been sold out over an hour in advance, including the early Friday/Sunday ones. Probably because it is the only cinema in the city showing in 3D but even still. For a low-brow slasher movie that's not bad going.

Watched Defiance instead and will hopefully catch MBV on Tuesday evening.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Thanks a lot fuckers, I hadn't planned on going to see this, but now I think I'm going to catch it this Wednesday.

Whispering Machines
Dec 27, 2005

Monsters? They look like monsters to you?
The power went out right before we left for the movie, and didn't come back on til this morning. So I saw this movie then came back to a pitch black apartment. Fun! :v:

It was a lot of fun. I generally hate slashers and much prefer ghosts, but it was entertaining as hell. People were screaming and then laughing, and the 3-d was fun (even though I got a headache.)

How did the killer get from inside the supermarket to outside the back alley in the space of like 3 seconds?

Whispering Machines fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jan 19, 2009

DrVenkman
Dec 28, 2005

I think he can hear you, Ray.
I enjoyed it but it was uneven. After the great opening the film settles in for some downtime and it really needed some work there. I will say though that I thought the Identity of the killer was really well handled, given that there was enough motive for it to be two or three different people. I like that it wasn't completely obvious.

It also seemed to do something really annoying at the end where it flashes back to a scene that wasn't in the film.

PsychoGoatee
Feb 23, 2005

by Fistgrrl

Whispering Machines posted:

How did the killer get from inside the supermarket to outside the back alley in the space of like 3 seconds?



Its like in Scream, we can't sweat the details. :D

Nolgthorn
Jan 30, 2001

The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense
Another horror movie was released recently, Return to Sleepaway Camp. I finally had the opportunity to watch this and it was highly entertaining. Not everyone will agree but it did have all the elements, an abundance of violence and a ton of characters all with their own individual rear end in a top hat camper personalities and character studies.

It's a true and worthy sequel to the series.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Nolgthorn posted:

It's a true and worthy sequel to the series.
Thanks for the recommendation, although I'm not sure if a filmmaker would have to worry too hard about making a film that's "worthy" of the series (and I say this as a big fan). That's kinda like saying "this new 3-D shark film is certainly worthy of Jaws 3-D!".

Nolgthorn
Jan 30, 2001

The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense

InfiniteZero posted:

Thanks for the recommendation, although I'm not sure if a filmmaker would have to worry too hard about making a film that's "worthy" of the series (and I say this as a big fan). That's kinda like saying "this new 3-D shark film is certainly worthy of Jaws 3-D!".

The film was actually finished shooting in 2003, during shooting a lot of energy was put in to make it look filmed in the same era as it's predecessors. So it was really neat to see what looked like a well done 80's slasher but only released this year. I'm not sure anymore what I meant by worthy as you've confused me about that, but it had a very similar feel to it's predecessors.

It's definitely an interesting change from seeing a lot of remakes as it is an honest sequel to an old horror movie series made by the same people.

The Remote Viewer
Jul 9, 2001

Ape Agitator posted:

What was wrong with it, slasher-film-wise?

Lack of charm, and not much variety in kills. 3D and being a remake were really the only things differentiating it from any straight-to-DVD slasher movie at Blockbuster.

Slashers are one of my favorite genres because I watched a ton of them as a kid and this one just didn't do it for me.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I swallowed a bug

Aggro posted:

Oh well -- it was good fun; my friends and I laughed our asses off the entire time and made the people next to us uncomfortable by cheering when people got pickaxed instead of cringing.

I laughed pretty heartily at most of the kills, along with the screaming I was doing. The poor people behind us were probably pretty worried about me and my friend.

We got a nice preview for Friday the 13th too, so it was overall a great experience. I haven't had that much fun at the movies in a long time!

Slasherfan
Dec 2, 2003
IS IT WRONG THAT I ONCE WROTE A HORROR STORY ABOUT THE BUDDIES? YOU KNOW, THE TALKING PUPPIES?
I'm heading out to see MBV for second time.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



cool kids inc. posted:

I laughed pretty heartily at most of the kills, along with the screaming I was doing. The poor people behind us were probably pretty worried about me and my friend.

We got a nice preview for Friday the 13th too, so it was overall a great experience. I haven't had that much fun at the movies in a long time!

I about pissed myself when the dwarf got killed.

Vilos Cohaagen
Jul 25, 2007
THINK? I DON'T GIVE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION TO THINK!
Question - even though I should probably just accept the gaping holes in the plot of this movie and take it for what its worth. I enjoyed it nonetheless...

Before Tom is locked in the cage watching the dude brutally murder the miner / brutally murdering the miner himself, he has a bit of a scuffle with the (illusionary) killer and has gets a nice slice on his shoulder. We see him getting stitched up in the hospital later on. Is this explainable? Did he do that to himself somehow?

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

Vilos Cohaagen posted:

Question - even though I should probably just accept the gaping holes in the plot of this movie and take it for what its worth. I enjoyed it nonetheless...

Before Tom is locked in the cage watching the dude brutally murder the miner / brutally murdering the miner himself, he has a bit of a scuffle with the (illusionary) killer and has gets a nice slice on his shoulder. We see him getting stitched up in the hospital later on. Is this explainable? Did he do that to himself somehow?

Could have done it himself or received it when the miner fought back. It's really an inconsequential wound so it could have happened any way or been self inflicted from many different tools.

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Squallege
Jan 7, 2006

No greater good, no just cause

Grimey Drawer
I saw My Bloody Valentine yesterday. I don't know what to say. I really enjoyed it. Is the plot dumb? Yeah. Was the twist obvious? A bit. But was it fun to watch? Hell yeah it was. But then again, this is the first movie I've seen in 3-D so I probably wouldn't have been as entertained had it not been.

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