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King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
I was skimming the past handful of pages of this thread looking for bold words to search for on Netflix and ended up watching Megan is Missing based on some vague "oh man the ending is so messed up!" post and all I can say is I am Not Happy about having made that decision.

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King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

demozthenes posted:

I have to disagree with your viewpoint of the movie and particularly scene where Megan recounts her sexual assault. One of the overarching themes of the movie was how the girls are victimized over and over again and it's such a reoccuring part of their lives that they just accept it as normal at that point. It's the point where you realize that the kidnapping isn't a random, out-of-the-blue thing but rather something that she has been groomed for throughout her entire life. And it's uncomfortable to watch because it should be uncomfortable to watch a young girl recount her rape.

I really didn't like Megan Is Missing (is it even possible to "like" or "enjoy" that movie?) but I thought that aspect of the movie was well-played and absolutely relevant to real life.

I thought that scene and the themes you're talking about were some of the "redeeming" parts of it (in the loosest possible sense), but the nuanced bits started feeling like they weren't actually The Point when we get literally 20 minutes of loving interminable torture, rape, and murder for an ending.

I read a humorous little blurb somewhere a long time ago that the best way to recognize pornography in film wasn't the actual filthy content, it was whether the filth was bookended by completely mundane activities extended to a completely unreasonable duration, and that's basically all I could think about during the burial scene.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
I've always wanted to show Lake Mungo to someone under the pretext that it's an actual documentary, to see if I could get someone to fully buy into it right up until the ending happens.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

moths posted:

You beat me to House of the Devil, but I wouldn't recommend The Orphanage unless you like movies where the ghost just wanted a friend. I thought it was allright, but the friend I saw it with hated it. He felt betrayed by the previews, and didn't even consider it a horror movie by the end.

(Sorry if I'm overcautious with spoilers, I hate ruining things.)

Are you sure you aren't thinking of The Awakening (which takes place at a boarding school, which is similar to an orphanage)?

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Sad Mammal posted:

Which Hotel are you talking about? I'm googling for "Hotel horror movie" and the like but all I'm seeing are pages for 1408

I believe he means this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0415855/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_5


As per the current open question, I think the ideal that I'm always chasing in horror is the feeling of complete dread when you know something really bad is about to happen, but don't have any idea of what it's going to be. One of the king examples for me is the scene in The Thing where Norris has the heart attack. Simultaneously in that scene you have MacReady coming unhinged and threatening everyone with the dynamite, the beardy dog kennel guy gearing up to try and attack him, the doctor trying to revive Norris, all on top of the base premise that any of these characters could be an alien and attack at any moment. It's obvious that the situation is coming to some sort of dire climax, but there's no way to tell how the scene will resolve until it actually does, and when it does you're as caught up in the moment as the characters.

Contrast versus 90% of all horror movies across all subgenres where all the scary scenes are built up around the basic framework of "character wanders around alone in the dark until they get attacked by something". These scenes can be well constructed enough not to bore, but something is always missing if you know how a scary scene is going to end almost as soon as it starts.

King of Bleh fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Aug 15, 2014

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
I only have one thing to say to anyone who didn't like the third short:

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

resurgam40 posted:

It's been mentioned before in this thread, but Fraility is a great companion piece to The Exorcist; both of these films back to back with a discussion afterwards about how they compare and contrast thematically would make for a great movie night.

Frailty and Take Shelter would also dovetail extremely well together; they're very nearly the same plot, but from the perspective of different characters.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
It's made pretty clear in the ending scenes that the entire kill list job was orchestrated by the cult, as a series of ritual killings intended to transform the main character in some way. The targets were fellow cult members, and likely volunteers.. The actual "why" and "how" of the ritual is definitely left ambiguous, however.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

TheJoker138 posted:

Ok, so here's where I'm at right now:

-The Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
-The Horror of Dracula (1958)
-The Exorcist (1973)
-The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
-Suspiria (1977)
-Hausu (1977)
-A Nightmare On Elm Street (1984)
-Hellraiser (1987)
-The Devil's Rejects (2005)
-The Cabin In The Woods (2012)

I took out Psycho, so I have room for one more thing. I don't have anything from the 40's, 60's, or the 90's. What are some good films from those eras I could possibly plug in to the open spot?

If you're trying to get the best spread across movements/eras I'd also pull Devil's Rejects and replace it with something from French Extremism, e.g. Inside. Rejects is a fun companion to Texas Chainsaw earlier in the lineup, but you're already kind of getting the cheeky deconstruction angle with Cabin.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Lurdiak posted:

I'm sorry, you're gonna tell me what I meant now? I meant it in the sense of "get outta here with that", I'm sorry if there's some kinda language barrier at work here, sometimes my understanding of english isn't perfect even after all these years. It wasn't my intent to be a dick, now it'd be nice if we could move on and go back to talking about horror movies.

That particular idiom is extremely dependent on the tone in which you vocalize it in my experience, I believe that you didn't intend rudeness, but it's a phrase that doesn't really come across the same in text :geno:

To contibute apart from the derail, I just watched The Mist for the first time the other night after seeing it discussed a lot around these parts and I totallly loved it. Even knowing what was coming with The Ending, it was a hell of a gut punch, and it's interesting to me that it's so very similar to the typical, incredibly lazy "almost everyone is dead, optional twist ending stinger, roll credits" ending you see with 99% of the genre, but juuust different enough to be effective and fresh.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

flashy_mcflash posted:

Thought exercise: what, short of "don't make it", could make MiM a good movie? While retaining its same basic premise of course.

I think MiM could be redeemable if the whole end section were either removed or drastically reworked. It's still a gross bad movie up until that point, but you could squint and credit it as a hackier version of The Den if the final act wasn't so vile and nigh-pornographic in its execution.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Grendels Dad posted:

How is Spring regarded around here? I've seen it yesterday and thought it was pretty great, though I have difficulties calling it a horror movie. The DVD box told me in no uncertain terms that it was, and that it even was "A Triumph ****" which I thought was a little much, but it was certainly a sweet movie about dealing with grief and growing up by way of tentacles.

The movie is completely enamored of the mechanics behind the creature stuff, to the point where the back 20 minutes or so of the film is literally just the two characters wandering around delivering exposition to each other, which completely kills the atmosphere of suspense the first parts of the film establish.

On the other hand, it has some of the funniest DVD extras I've ever seen, so I guess it washes out to a B+ overall.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

ObamaPhone posted:

Top Ten favorite horror movies... Really?

I watched about 45 minutes and

I read this much of your post and got too bored to finish it

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
Stranger Things is basically a pretty good season of American Horror Story under a different name. Originality isn't the point, the point is to take a bunch of very familiar and recognizable genre cliches, throw them all in a blender, and see what comes out.

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

It's a mostly fantastic show with one really, really huge black mark on it. Steve is one of the most infuriating assholes ever put on television and the show never seems to fully realize this. He's like if Joffrey from GoT got the Poochie treatment.

I disagree, I think the show is extremely aware that Steve's role in a traditional narrative is as the "obnoxious jerk boyfriend who the female lead eventually realizes sucks and ditches for the male lead", and I think it deliberately plays with and against that cliche.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
You could show Entrance or Lake Mungo to someone blindly without ever describing those as "horror" and there'd be almost no reason to question whatever nominal genre they present themselves as until the final scenes of each; that's a style of "twist" I find really interesting.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Samuel Clemens posted:

What are good examples of horror films with lots of build-up but no release? Films where you're constantly on edge and expecting something to happen, but nothing ever does.

The Midnight Swim is this, kinda. Also Toad Road?

Also the central thesis of Resolution (as you might infer from the name) is very much about what you're asking.

King of Bleh fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 13, 2016

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Spatulater bro! posted:

Ok so now I've got New French Extremity on my mind. What do you all think of Martyrs? I've seen it once, years ago, and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Looking at my Criticker blurb, I said that it's an intense horror movie "wrapped in pseudo-intellectual philosophical mumbo jumbo". Do those who like the movie overlook the metaphysical themes of the ending (much like I overlook the ending to High Tension), or do you actually think they work? I just remember rolling my eyes at the pretentiousness, but maybe I need to give it another shot.

I actually just saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago. I liked the first half, and I also liked the second half, but I'm not really sure how well the two actually work together as a single film. The narrative follows a clear linear progression, but every other element of the film feels pretty discontinuous when passing over the inflection point when the focus shifts to Anna. Any discussions around the movie are probably going to be about the ending bits and the cult, but that kind of renders the entire first half of the movie (and poor Lucie) redundant.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Samuel Clemens posted:

So, uh, is Split an exception, or has Shyamalan's output from the past decade secretly been good and everyone just pretended he sucked?

He seems to have turned things around starting with The Visit, which I thought was markedly better than Split.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Hollismason posted:

I feel like Benedict Cumberbatch would be really suitable to play Dr. Frankenstein.

Danny Boyle appears to have agreed with you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankenstein_(2011_play)

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

King Vidiot posted:

Still can't hold a candle to spook-a-doodles.

Screamin meemies are clearly the imperial system, while spook a doodles are metric

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Choco1980 posted:

Question from a facebook lgbtq+ horror group I'm in...Name movies with a lesbian final girl that ISN'T also the killer.

Kind of a cheat, but American Horror Story: Asylum works here.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Gejimayu posted:

Is 'Chrismas Evil (You Better Watch Out) [vhs retro style] 1980' the film you guys are talking about? I mean it must be cause its yhe only thing called Christmas Evil but the title card just said You Better Watch Out. If so, im watching it with the wife right now.

Did this title come via kazaa or something

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King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

DeimosRising posted:

This idea doesn’t stand up to like, 4 seconds of consideration

...Or does it?!

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