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Dissapointed Owl
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I'm going to suggest 2 that aren't the usual suspects:

Without Warning and Special Bulletin.

These were really entertaining. Thanks. I love these types of movies. Also, Michael Madsen outta nowhere!

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Dissapointed Owl
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Whoa, where? I don't remember that at all. The only two cameos I really noticed were Arthur C. Clarke, chilling in Sri Lanka :stare: and for NY Tri-State area folks, local TV newsman Ernie Anastos.

He was in Special Bulletin.



"That guy... That guy is a walking Psycho Ward."

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scary ghost dog posted:

The Mist, but in the black and white version on the Blu-Ray. It's done like an extra long Twilight Zone episode and it's amazing.

Maybe if that was the actual context I would have loved that ridiculously stupid ending.

Now I really wanna see the black and white version...

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Darko posted:

I don't really see what's wrong with what he said. When I was younger, I would go to theatres closer to the city (Detroit) sometimes, when I wanted to see a movie with a ton of crowd reaction/funny comments, because for whatever reason, culturally, a lot of inner city black people talk to the screen. And it's actually funny unlike the sad MST3King people try to do, perhaps because it's earnest and not done strictly for attention. This has been lampooned in quite a few movies, too, so it's wide ranging enough that a lot of other people all around have picked it up as well.

Saying that 'black people' equals 'talking during a movie' is a stereotype and shouldn't be casually tossed around like that.

He could have just said that there was a lot of crowd reaction and talking that made it funny.

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Harminoff posted:

I have some black friends, and even they agree that they are loud at movies. It's funny to me that non black people seem to get more offended by things like that then actual blacks do. Silly people.

This is an incredibly stupid thing to say.

Harminoff posted:

Anyway, I'm going to watch Never Sleep Again because I have nothing else to do. Thanks for the recommendation.

This isn't. It's a really interesting and fun watch.

What's weird though, at one point they made this child puppet, emeciated and shriveled up, and it's fantastic looking and all that, and then they decide not to use it because... it's too disturbing?

You're making a horror movie, ya jerks.

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SpeedofLife posted:

You are really over-exaggerating. First of all, the "black people talk during movies" stereotype is not some obscure piece of information. It's been referenced in countless movies, TV shows, stand-up acts, etc. So don't act like you have to be a card-carrying Klansman to know about it.

Knowing about the existence of a stereotype and actively saying 'black people were there, so of course [...]' are different things.

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SpeedofLife posted:

Not really. If you're aware of the stereotype, the connection is obvious. I mean, why else would he mention the ethnic make-up of his audience, if not to invoke the stereotype?

You do know that stereotypes aren't 'funny little truths about races', right?

Dissapointed Owl
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Okay, so after watching Never Sleep Again I decided to go see New Nightmare because it's supposed to be one of the best in the series.

I've got about 30 minutes to go and one person got killed on screen in the entire movie.

I'm not about body count at all in a horror movie but at least in the 'Freddy Krueger is a Looney Toon' sequels stuff actually happened.

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LtKenFrankenstein posted:

I'm a firm believer in the idea that the higher body count a horror movie (particularly a slasher movie) has, the more desperate and probably bad it is. If I'm remembering correctly, New Nightmare has a body count of four, which is the same as the original Nightmare, and, I think, the same as the original Halloween.

I agree with your sentiment but I guess in the original it was better spaced out or built up. This one is just boring. It's like Wes Craven just went, "Heh. Meta." and called it a night, recycling murders from the original under the guise of it being 'meta'.

I loved the original and it certainly didn't need any more killings.

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LtKenFrankenstein posted:

Fair enough. New Nightmare definitely is a love-it-or-hate-it kinda movie. Personally, I think it's loving great, and features probably the best acting overall of any movie in the franchise, but I get why some people aren't into it. The climax in particular is admittedly goofy.

It definitely has it's moments. The idea is fun, the image of Freddy upside down with the babysitter while the child is sitting on the hospital bed is quite eye-catching, the acting is indeed the best of the series...

I'm just missing the dread from the original or, call it blasphemy, even some of the cornier entries in the series.

Freddy just sort of... does stuff. I mean, nothing really seems directed, or with purpose. Which made sense when he was just toying with people, but that's not his goal here so it doesn't quite work for me.

15 minutes left on the clock though, so maybe the 'goofy climax' will make me a believer :)

vvvv Novel and fun, I agree. But to me it seems to get in the way of any sense of dread. vvvv

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Crackerman posted:

I think it's important to see New Nightmare in the context of the time it was released too. We're all used to post-modern, self-aware meta-horror now, especially since Craven's own Scream, but for 1994 it was a pretty novel idea.

This is kind of a frightening idea though, in a way. If such 'self-aware meta-horror', which in most cases is probably used as a (last) resort in the way of being original in a horror film, has gone stale... where does horror have left to go?

Or has meta horror become a cheap tactic by horror writers these days?

Or maybe it's just a side-genre that's just going to be there, I don't really know what I'm talking about here. It's late and my brain is shutting down.

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Crackerman posted:

A lot of that kind of thing is cyclical. Self-aware meta-horror has given away to a lot of found footage horror and torture porn, both of which will (and are) becoming self-aware. It all just goes round and round.

Exactly what I was thinking.

vvv It was a pretty silly thought. vvv

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Okay, so having finished New Nightmare... Yeah, not a fan.

What I would like to see, though, is a movie directed by a quality director working with a fleshed out version of Peter Jackson's script for Elmstreet 6. That sounded really original and full of potential. I was hooked by the very basic idea of it. Could've been something special.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

What was the premise?

Freddy had become weak in the dream world since, well... his many deaths I guess, and kids were going into self induced sleep 'trips' into the dream world to beat the poo poo out of old, feeble Freddy. Until he manages to kill one...

I mean, it could've been really bad. But at last it was being creative with the franchise and, as opposed to the scripts of almost every other Elmstreet movie, this one actually seemed to have potential if given quality direction... which it probably wouldn't have gotten anyway.

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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:

the title was really neat. "The Dream Lovers"

Yeah, I caught that too. Sounds good, man.

The X-files episode 'X-Cops' was the best Freddy Krueger movie.

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Looked Shark Night 3D up on IMDB because... why not. And I must say I have been completely won over by this review:

IMDB reviewer posted:

The Most Explosive Teenage-Horror Movie of All Time! A tremendously Jaw-Dropping Cinematic Experience!

28 August 2011 | by Joey A' Rpd

So far, Shark Night is one of the best Teenage-Horror Movies I've seen since Insidious. It contains lots of action, tons of suspense and most of all, the best for last...horror.

Scenes are freaky and frightening, thats part of it. The movie doesn't involve in only fighting and trying to kill the shark, but also, fights between teenagers themselves. The movie is kind of bloody to have an PG-13 rating, so this is one of those movies you''ll be tricked. It's full of jump-out-of-your-seat scenes, since almost every time the teens are in the water, the shark will definitely and predictably appear and kill one of the group.

It's truly amazing!

Dudes, best teenage-horror movie since Insidious! Which didn't even have teens but whatever! Action? Suspense? Fuckin' HORROR?! Someone catch me, I'm getting the vapours.

Fights between the sharks but also, check this poo poo out, fights BETWEEN THE TEENAGERS THEMSELVES! We've reached maximum freshness with this material.

As a cherry on top, it's predictable as well?

That sounds... Truly amazing.

Ten out of ten. Top that, 'Saving Private Perez'!


Trivia!
'Director David R. Ellis wanted to release the film under the title, "Untitled 3D Shark Thriller".'

Either that's slightly 'clever' in acknowledging the film will be incredibly tongue in cheek and purposely derivative of the entire genre....

Or it's really retarded.


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Also, has anyone seen Dead Air? Never heard of it. I loved the first half of Pontypool and this sounds similiar. Is it worth your time?

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Mouser.. posted:

I've seen a lot of people talking about Never Sleep Again and am interested but 240 minutes seems incredibly long for a documentary on this subject. So just figuring from stereotype, are there montages that last forever and fluff subjects being covered for an hour ? (Fluff meaning a talking head going on and on about how difficult it was to get the right lighting or long interviews with the foley artist. This may not be fluff to some, this is my subjective opinion.)

At no point is it boring. They've got, what, 7 movies to go through? So it all keeps moving at a steady pace.

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Coffee And Pie posted:

I was gonna check out Never Sleep Again, even though I haven't seen them all (or any of them recently), and I was planning to marathon them. Would it be better if I watched them all before or afterwards?

Definitely before.

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Just saw Quarantine 2: Terminal because I didn't know it existed.

Please don't watch it. I mean, the warning signs are there:
1) You never heard of it
2) It's a 'sequel' to the not terrible but completely unnecessary remake of REC
3) It ditches the whole first person angle.

This was an incredibly bland movie that had no need to be. It has some flimsy connection to the first Quarantine but whatever.

If you come across it, don't get curious. Whatever you can come up with when hearing "Quarantine in an airport baggage area" is a guaranteed better story than this.


Now I'm going to watch Paranormal Activity 2: Tokyo Night because I never learn.

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Dissapointed Owl posted:

Now I'm going to watch Paranormal Activity 2: Tokyo Night because I never learn.

Just in case anybody was wondering, this was... surprisingly good. Way better than the actual Paranormal Activity 2. Although it does retread a lot from the first Paranormal Activity.

Definitely worth checking out if you liked the PA movies. Hell, this one has a better and more interesting (little) backstory that ties back to the first PA than PA2 did.

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lizardman posted:

How/ where did you see it?

Is saying 'YouTube' :filez:? :ohdear:

Dissapointed Owl
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Watching The Gate right now because of this thread. Let's see if it holds up for me.

I remember going to this dollar store way back when, and I saw two movies for sale:
"The Giant Spider Invasion and "The Gate"

I went with the former just because of that incredible name, or maybe it was the cover. Anyway, now I get to see what I missed out on.

TGSI was awesome in the worst way btw


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Oh no, now I remember. I had some budget dvd with trailers for both Spider Invasion and The Gate. I remembered the TGSI trailer being filled with lots of shots of really fake looking giant spiders.

The Gate trailer was an eerie zoom out of the cover, with the clawing hands and glowing eyes, and a creepy voice-over.

I guess I went with TGSI because the trailer for The Gate didn't tell me much about the movie.

Because, you know, I was a kid. gently caress subtlety, I guess.

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The kids' acting is surprisingly good.

When Stephen Dorff's friend starts mouthing the lines to some sort of D&D inspired music(?) and is draping himself with what looks like giant gay pride flag I had to remind myself that this isn't Nightmare On Elmstreet 2 and I probably shouldn't over-analyze it.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It's Lovecraft inspired, IIRC, it even specifically mentions the Old Ones! Well, it goes for everything, really, D&D panic, metal panic, backmasking, geodes...

If The Giant Spider Invasion and The Gate have taught me one thing it's that geodes are bad news.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

It's Lovecraft inspired, IIRC, it even specifically mentions the Old Ones! Well, it goes for everything, really, D&D panic, metal panic, backmasking, geodes...

Having finished The Gate... that was surprisingly good. I'm impressed. The stop motion was really good. Fun flick.

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Dan Didio posted:

What's TGSI about?

:iiam: but just in case: The Giant Spider Invasion in 12 minutes

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It made for one hell of a Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode.

scary ghost dog posted:

Don't tell Nicolas Cage!!

I think whatever's in his geodes might have more to fear from him than he of it.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I would also like to say that the set up and payoff for Alice's doppleganger creeped the living gently caress out of me.

Which is funny as the most common complaint about that movie is 'the jump scare' when I really felt it was far from cheap.

To me it was a perfect outlet to the sense of unease that has been built up throughout the movie. Not just a great scare but genuinely creepy and frightening.

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Technetium posted:

So I want to watch Wrong Turn 2 but I've never seen Wrong Tun because I've heard it's not so good. Should I watch the first one before the sequel or are they far apart enough that I can watch the sequel and get the full effect anyway?

They're not connected in any way if I remember correctly. Part one is the least bad in the series though.

Henry Rollins was fun in part 2 though.

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Technetium posted:

That's not what my Criticker and random other strangers are saying. That and the plot for 2 actually sounds sort of cool.

I guess part 2 might be considered more fun by some, but I feel the first Wrong Turn is definitely the better movie.

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House on Haunted Hill, a thoroughly enjoyable and creepy film ruined by whatever the hell you call the hostile flying Rorschach test that dominates the last 15 minutes of the flick.

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I don't know, I didn't mind Kattan much at all actually. He felt suitably... colorful.

He just wanted his money :smith:

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So, I for one think The Fourth Kind wasn't all that bad and had several truly creepy moments that made it worth watching in the long run.

The scene were the 'fake' film cuts to the 'real footage' of the guy on the bed freaked me out, I must admit.

I see this movie was absolutely destroyed by the press and it seemed like most couldn't get over the whole 'Real actor reenactment' aspect of the film.

Or maybe it's just a bad movie. Can someone give me an honest critique of what makes it so bad?

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Silhouette posted:

I believe you mean Geoffrey Rush as James Woods as Vincent Price :v:

Holy poo poo :aaaaa: that's it.

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CobiWann posted:

The original "House on Haunted Hill" is worth it for Vincent Price doing Vincent Price. :)

I like it when he looks into the camera and says, "I wonder how it will end."

Dissapointed Owl
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He made a movie you didn't like, hence he's a child rapist. Classy.

frozenpeas posted:

The only positive note here is that this was the director's last American movie and , probably as a direct result, he was banished to his homeland and forced to make Dutch TV movies like Tödliche Lüge and Wenn ich nicht mehr lebe.

Those are German movies. The titles being German might've given it away.

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Not really, although Corbin Bernsen is always a treat. To be fair though, I don't think I've ever seen a movie set inside a radio station booth that kept my attention for the whole thing [Dead Air].

Yeah, that wasn't worth it.

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Darko posted:

On the flip side, I made it through all of the Basket Cases and was thoroughly interested throughout.

I only saw the first one and it definitely had its moments... might be time for a full series run-through.

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Warm und Fuzzy posted:

You should start a youtube channel where you pretend to be a theater employee and troll the old people who storm out of bad movies and ask for their money back.

Does poo poo like this really fly in America?

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weekly font posted:

While we're on the topic of PA, Paranormal Activity: Tokyo Drift is terrible.

I have to disagree. Unlike PA 2 it has a couple of memorable scenes (Escaping the house and the creepy broken legs walk to her brother's room).

I cannot for the life of me recount a single memorable moment from PA2.

A pool cleaner and the clattering of pots and pans. All I remember.

PA 2 was terrible.

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Also, Tokyo Night had a more creative and interesting connection to the first movie, plot wise, than PA2. That's pretty special seeing as the movie is based in goddamn Japan.

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I DID like that one as it was a good variation of the original's scare. But I can't even remember how that movie ended and I watched it like a week ago. I guess the connection was pretty good but eh it seemed more of a, "how can we make these connected, oh like this!" kind of grasp at straws as opposed to a serious plot point.

Weird, because I thought the ending with the brother finding the dad stuffed in a cupboard and him running out of the house, jumping into a taxi and his sister showing up in the middle of the road was really memorable. I cannot for the life of me remember how PA2 ended. Did it even have a climax?

And yeah, I can see how one might feel the movie is grasping at straws with the plot connection but for a movie set in Japan I found the sister running over the possessed crazy girl from the first PA and the 'ghost' jumping over onto her way more interesting than what PA2 had.

But agree to disagree. :)

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