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readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

General Ripper posted:

re: pencils. There are many different brands, most have kits of multiple pencils. Try a variety, see what you like best. There's no cut and dry 'best' pencil, just whatever you like using.

Some basics to consider:
-lead hardness. There are different grades of hard or soft leads, depending on the job you want to do. On the pencil you'll see a letter code, you're probably familiar with HB. It's on a scale, from hardest to softest with H for hard, B for soft, ie: 6H, 4H, 2H, H, HB, B, 2B, 4B, 6B and so on.

Harder leads will scratch into the paper more than softer leads, and so are harder to erase or leave impressions in the paper, so they're generally used for finished work or fine lines, but because they are harder are usually lighter in tone. Soft leads (i'm a 6B sketcher myself) go on darker, and erase more easily, and generally used for looser work. The same classifications apply to charcoal, conte...

As for brands, there's Staedtler, General's, Derwent, and tons more. Try a few of each, they're not too pricey. Also try smooth paper versus paper with some texture. Draw as much as you can and don't worry too much about making things 'look good', just doodle, have fun, get used to the pencil in your hand until you have nice callus on your finger. Once the drawing is intuitive, then excercises from books will come more easily.


It's been a while, but I just noticed something that this person forgot to mention.

While I like the harder pencils myself (they leave cleaner lines and smear less), I tend to find that for general purpose doodling it doesn't really matter what brand or hardness pencil you draw with. They all mark similarly and they all erase more or less the same.

The eraser, on the other hand, can be the savior or the death of you.

Experiment with all kinds of eraser types early on. Why? Because using a good eraser will make your job A LOT easier while a bad one will make it A LOT harder. Usually to the tune of leaving an ugly gray smear on your drawing that you can't ever get rid of.

The major ones are the pink school erasers, the kneaded gum, and the white plastic. The pink ones are crap 90% of the time so don't bother with them. They tend to be either useless from the start or become useless after some time and use. When I talk about dealing with eraser stains, it's usually these that I'm talking about.

As for the kneaded gum erasers, they are useful enough for many things I guess. Since you can "knead" them into any shape you like you can control the size of your eraser point, which is really nice sometimes. You can also use them to smear pencil and charcoal to create shading effects, which you can't do with the other types. It's not bad to have a few of these around. The only downside is that they lack a certain erasing power that the other two have. Once a line is dark enough you can't get rid of it completely. Which kind of sucks.

The last is my personal favorite, the white plastic eraser. You don't get the control of the kneaded gum, but this is by far the best in terms of ability to pick of led from paper. It also does this well without damaging the paper, which the pink ones tend to do. They also aren't that expensive when you consider one will last you way longer than a gum. Assuming you aren't like me and loose them all the time.

Other than that the only advice I have on erasers it to be wary of anything that comes attached to the top of a pencil. Some work fine, but many are just crap. Particularly anything that is black in color. I don't know why but those black things on the top of mechanical pencils never work right for me. Ung! I hate them so much!

Anywho, hope that was useful.

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readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
Is there a thunderdome-style thread for art? I'd be super interested in participating in something like that.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
So here's one I'm sure you guys get all the time.

I've recently started working on a series of short stories that all take place in a sharred world. The stories are probably going to end up being 10k words each with some being shorter/longer than others. What would be the proper way to get some goons to take a look at my stuff and tell me why it sucks? Is there already a thread for this kind of thing? I hope I don't have to start a new one because I'm pretty sure I'm awful and that's a bit intimidating.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
So as a way of getting myself to draw more I'm toying with the idea of starting a thread for fanart. It would be a bit different from typical CC threads in that it would be fairly relaxed and emphasize quantity of output and having fun over technique and critique. The basic rules would be "You have to have posted fanart before you can contribute in other ways (crits, casual chat, etc)", "No porn/fetish material", "Posting something bad is better than posting nothing at all" and "No critiques unless explicitly asked". I'm particularly curious how people feel about the last two since they kind of go against how CC normally rolls. The idea is to provide a chill place for people (particularly newer and more casual artists) to chat it up and try new/weird/stupid things without much pressure. I mean, it's fanart for gently caress's sake. We're going to generate a ton of garbage art either way so we should at least encourage people to make fun, entertaining garbage.

Does this sound like something people would be into? Or that the mods would even allow in the first place?

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