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proudfoot
Jul 17, 2006
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mllaneza posted:

No, the ROU got its effectors into the traitor ship's Mind. It committed suicide because it was compelled to. That shows the power and cruelty of an ROU very well. If it got in that far the ROU was capable of tearing the enemy Mind apart by itself, but instead it made it rip itself apart. Very cool and one of the most telling scenes about the Minds in a book that's all about the scheming and manipulation the Minds get up to.

Wait really? I was pretty sure that the traitor ship committed suicide after realizing what it was doing.

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proudfoot
Jul 17, 2006
Yak! Look! a Yak!

gender illusionist posted:

It's just that they're all out of date tech compared to KT; top of the line when they were built but crap compared to the latest the Culture has to offer.

e: anyone read the new Banks book? sounds pretty mad.

In Matter, its pointed out that after a while, you can't really advance technologically, once you hit the peak of technological progress. After rereading the passage though, I am fairly convinced KT killed the AA. I just wonder why a fleet of several hundred warships doesn't simply blow away the Killing Time.

Also, the Attitude Adjuster was a Limited Offensive Unit, which is substantially weaker then a Rapid Offensive Unit(KT).

You kind of get the idea that the Culture has been technologically stagnant for a while - and the only way forward for them would be to sublime.

proudfoot fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Oct 9, 2009

proudfoot
Jul 17, 2006
Yak! Look! a Yak!

alkanphel posted:

Does the ending of Look to Windward suggestthat the Culture died out eventually or they sublimed instead?

Yup, after one galactic year, the Culture no longer exists, presumably having sublimed, destroyed by an outside context problem, or somehow switched galaxies/universes or changed into something unrecognizable as the Culture.

proudfoot fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Oct 9, 2009

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