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goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*
I planted some herbs but haven't planted much else. I started a little tea garden in my front planters with garden sage, sweet mint, spearmint, and lavender. Any other herbs I should get for a tea garden?

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Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
My use case is culinary rather than tea but I find that thyme and chives are my #1 most used.

If you're doing tea... chamomile, borage, hibiscus?

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

goatse guy posted:

I planted some herbs but haven't planted much else. I started a little tea garden in my front planters with garden sage, sweet mint, spearmint, and lavender. Any other herbs I should get for a tea garden?

Tea.

https://onegreenworld.com/product/sochi-tea-seedling-2/

They're quite lovely and at least for my climate are green the entire year if you leave them all their leaves.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
For tea:

Lemongrass?

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*

Discussion Quorum posted:

My use case is culinary rather than tea but I find that thyme and chives are my #1 most used.

If you're doing tea... chamomile, borage, hibiscus?

All good ideas. I use a lot of thyme and parsley in my cooking so I will be picking some of those up as well.


Jhet posted:

Tea.

https://onegreenworld.com/product/sochi-tea-seedling-2/

They're quite lovely and at least for my climate are green the entire year if you leave them all their leaves.

They won't last as a perennial in zone 5 but it might make a nice annual. I don't know why this didn't occur to me.


effika posted:

For tea:

Lemongrass?

Lemongrass tastes like poison.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

goatse guy posted:

They won't last as a perennial in zone 5 but it might make a nice annual. I don't know why this didn't occur to me.

It’s not a tea garden without tea, imo. It’s just an herb garden otherwise. You could probably move it inside to winter, leave it in a big planter that you can move around. They are shrubs though and will eventually be fairly large if maintained. I have two that need to be moved to a different spot in my yard once the street gets its remodel.

Hyssop is also useful for steeping and is great for pollinators too.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

Lawnie posted:

I have seen Cherokee purple tomatoes at Lowe’s in years past, that’s an excellent one that’s pretty widely available.

I did them one year and they are quite tasty, albeit prone to splitting.

I've got sun golds, san marzano, grace lahman pink and Heinz 1350. Each is in its own bed this year as a new strategy to try and avoid overcrowding and disease. Of course, tons of volunteers cropping up now and I couldn't resist sticking my backup sun gold in a pot.

Tons of stuff is starting to come up now: peas, squash, beans, carrots, beets, sunflowers. Jalapenos should start running riot next week when we hit 90.

My strawberries look super healthy but I'm sad to report their asparagus companions have put out like two shoots total for nine plants. Not sure what happened. I switched from sprayers to full drip, so maybe they dried out?

Phat Phingers
May 27, 2023

Ey Frito-Lay! FUH Q MANG!
got some peppers from the nursery. now the weather goes from a week of 70°+ to under 55° for no reason. we're a month into spring

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Anyone have cucumber types they recommend?

Lawnie
Sep 6, 2006

That is my helmet
Give it back
you are a lion
It doesn't even fit
Grimey Drawer

GlyphGryph posted:

Anyone have cucumber types they recommend?

We like silver slicers for versatility between pickling and eating fresh. We’ve had really bad bacterial wilt the last couple of years though; as soon as the plants start setting flowers, wilt sets in and they die without producing any fruit. I think my wife got some bacterial-wilt resistant variety to try this year instead, though.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

GlyphGryph posted:

Anyone have cucumber types they recommend?

I like Spacemaster 80. It's a bush type, but happy to spread as much as you let it, and it'll climb, too. Cukes grow in that nice in-between size so you can get them early for pickling or let them grow to 6-7" or so. It was very robust last year and withstood everything except the ants farming aphids on it in the 110°F heat, which it technically survived, but never really recovered from.

It does produce bitter fruit after 100°F, so keep in mind you may want beit alpha or a cucumber-like melon like the Armenian instead if you have to deal with those temps for more than a few weeks. (Fingers crossed we don't get 6 weeks like we did last year. That was brutal. If we do, I'm switching types.)

effika fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Apr 28, 2024

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


eke out posted:

i got a 16' sun joe tiller walmart had on sale and it really is handy, great for quickly turning under cover crops, great for busting up grass and making new beds, etc.

probably terrible if you needed it for serious commercial use but really useful at home
On the strength of this recommendation and realizing they were like $150 I got one and its done great so far. Already broke one tine on a chunk of concrete and its gotten slightly bogged down in some roots/grass stolons but I pretty much expected that.

EvenWorseOpinions
Jun 10, 2017
This may not be exactly the right thread but it was the closest I was able to find. I'm trying to figure out what a plant that I had when I was a teen was. I ended up killing it, I went too long without watering it, but I gave it some water and it came back to life. Then I panicked and overwatered it and it died for real. I want to get another one and not kill it this time.

I don't necessarily know the correct nomenclature, but the plant had a single woody stem, thick fuzzy leaves, and was able to live indoors all the time that I had it. It didn't flower for any of the time that I had it. It was probably about three feet tall, I got it from one of my biology teachers when he retired and I think he said it was from Madagascar.

Any chance that rings a bell for anyone?

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Cucumbers I plant Chicago/national pickling and "hybrid English burpless" for a few years running now

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
I'm trying suyo long cukes and mexican sour gherkins ("cucamelons") this year, we shall see

mischief
Jun 3, 2003
I've always grown Marketmore 76

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

One of my fig trees is starting to fruit. Ideas on keeping squirrels away from it this year without having to tether my dogs to it like one of Hercules' trials?

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

Alterian posted:

One of my fig trees is starting to fruit. Ideas on keeping squirrels away from it this year without having to tether my dogs to it like one of Hercules' trials?

My great grandmother used to go out with a roll of tin foil and wrap each fig loosely to keep the wasps/bugs out while they ripened on the tree. No idea if it'll keep squirrels away but I know birds hate tinfoil or can't see the figs and leave them alone.

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

My fig tree currently:

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn
Lmao yeah nevermind those are the squirrels' now. The fig tree we had in the family must have been heavily pruned or a dwarf variety.

goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*
Picked up some chamomile and another variety of lavender for my tea garden, as well as some cilantro, roma tomatoes, jalapenos, bell peppers, and some annuals for my front porch. The weather is supposed to be under 45 degrees at night time for the next week or two so I'm keeping them indoors until it warms up.

I'm picking up two large trays of native plants this week. I still haven't finished prepping the area where I am planning to plant them because I can only function under the extreme pressure of a looming deadline.

Sono
Apr 9, 2008




effika posted:

I think the idea with marigolds (and nasturtium, which I'm going to try this year) is that they are more attractive to the aphids than your vegetables, hopefully, and prefer to mostly stay there. I've heard them called "trap crops" and that seems like a better expression of what they do.

So on that note, would it be better to place the trap crops away from the actual crops to keep the aphids out of the immediate area, or do they need to be companion planted?

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
You want them close enough that anything that would eat the one notices and decides to eat the other instead, right?

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
Commercial growers put them 6-10 feet away from the crops, at the edges of the field, to attract the bugs away from the HUGE smell of all the plants. Small gardeners often interplant them, or put them at the edges/corner of a bed, or in a container nearby, and have decent luck. Depending on the pest you may get better results one way or the other.

I'm planting my nasturtium in the square next to my cucumbers, so that's one experiment I can try this summer!

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


gently caress off squirrels.






These strawberries are mine.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


my 85 transplanted tomatoes survived the scary night with a frost risk and we're moving forward with the season and no freezes in the forecast. We have a nice 4 day drizzly stretch for them to harden off, which is why I took the risk on transplanting them when I did.

I just put 2x 52 foot rows of onions and leeks in, then 24 feet of direct sow peas/beans and 24 feet of direct sow beets/carrots, with herbs here and there as borders and dividers.





This time of the year is so good. I know that there is always going to be heartbreak, but I accept that and allow myself to get excited.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

Man, this time of year is great. This is really helping with the massive pile of stressors that have landed in my lap lately.

Pepper plants started exploding after only being planted outside for a week and most of my herbs look like they’re aiming to take over. Tomatoes aren’t going crazy yet but are looking good. We have black krim, sweet 100, black cherry, and roma tomatoes.

As a plus, the extra New Mexico chiles I started did not die despite being put out pretty early to make room. I just decided to throw them into some soil with some compost mixed in. They were growing slowly at first because it was a little bit cold outside, but the stuntedness is over and they are looking very happy, so hooray for extra green chile.

All the rest of my pepper plants are trying to flower early, which I’m preventing, but it makes me glad to see them doing so well. I’ll switch to their fruiting fertilizer once they get big and bushy and the haul should be great this year.

When I was a kid I tried to garden back in Texas with a very rudimentary knowledge of botany and it did not go super well usually. It’s so satisfying to grow healthy and productive things.

Sorry for typing a long post that is just an old man talking about his garden. I get excited about doing this stuff and reading about everyone else’s too.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


What are everyone's garden goals this year? Philosophically, I mean?

Mine are

*Fewer experiments. Focus on growing better crops and optimizing the things that go well and waste less space on things that have consistently performed poorly.

*Aerate. My no dig hasn't done so well, so I'm turning the soil over this year.

*Water conservation. Store more, water more efficiently, and find more ways to combat evaporation without making a slug park.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost

CommonShore posted:

What are everyone's garden goals this year? Philosophically, I mean?

Mine are

*Fewer experiments. Focus on growing better crops and optimizing the things that go well and waste less space on things that have consistently performed poorly.

*Aerate. My no dig hasn't done so well, so I'm turning the soil over this year.

*Water conservation. Store more, water more efficiently, and find more ways to combat evaporation without making a slug park.

As a chronic lurker mine is to start one (this has been my goal for several years tbh).

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


DreamingofRoses posted:

As a chronic lurker mine is to start one (this has been my goal for several years tbh).

DO IT

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
My goals this year are basically all experimentation. I want to figure out what grows best in the different conditions of my yard (soil and light and all that) and which plants will come back from last year with no actual effort. Already learning a heck of a lot, this is my first year gardening so I'm just assuming most stuff will fail and I'll mess stuff up, but it'll be easier in the future, and at least some of the stuff I started this year will hopefilly pay off years from now. Like the blueberries, which are already producing their first berries! I'm excited.

freeedr
Feb 21, 2005

I started seeds for a heritage variety of New Mexico chile that makes GREAT red chile sauce. Only one plant of that variety made it through germination and seedling stages well. That means my first goal is for that plant to give me enough pods for at least one (1) decent-size batch of sauce.

Goal two is a steady supply of jalapeños, tomatoes, onions, garlic, and cilantro for salsa.

Goal three is lots of excess veggies / herbs of the varieties that my chickens like

Goal four is for the sunflowers to be big and pretty because my wife loves them and it makes me happy for her to be happy, plus sunflowers are rad. Also this feeds into goal three because the chooks love to dismantle a sunflower head as a treat

Goal five is for the mosquito-repelling plants to get huge and smell nice so that our back porch is paradise. Our vines make such a beautiful verdant canopy on the pergola and it’s great if nothing is biting you

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


CommonShore posted:

What are everyone's garden goals this year? Philosophically, I mean?

Be inventive in a deck garden and find joy in it, no comparisons to what I was planning to do.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


I just bought some Ozette potatoes to grow. Looking forward to growing some rare potatoes in my garden this year.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




DreamingofRoses posted:

As a chronic lurker mine is to start one (this has been my goal for several years tbh).

Post/username combo.

Stop dreaming and start planting.

Alucard
Mar 11, 2002
Pillbug

CommonShore posted:

What are everyone's garden goals this year? Philosophically, I mean?

Mine are

*Fewer experiments. Focus on growing better crops and optimizing the things that go well and waste less space on things that have consistently performed poorly.

*Aerate. My no dig hasn't done so well, so I'm turning the soil over this year.

*Water conservation. Store more, water more efficiently, and find more ways to combat evaporation without making a slug park.

Get things to grow - last year I started a garden and my "organic garden soil" had a ton of wood chips in it so it was basically mulch and useless for planting. I've already got more growth in the first month than I did all year last year.

Keep it simple - I also discovered my garden probably doesn't get full sun so I'm trying mostly shade and part sun plants, cherry tomatoes instead of heirloom larges, and things that would normally bolt by summer. Lots of leafy greens.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
My goals on the veggie side are to test the performance of some different self-watering container designs, vs grow bags (some with ollas). I'm not being super scientific about it and the only apples-to-apples comparison plants are a pair of Fred's Tie Dye tomatoes, because I'm also trialing 3 different dwarf tomato varieties.

So far the SIPs (double 5G bucket flavor) are way ahead in terms of vegetative growth, but now that flowering is underway the tomato with the olla doesn't seem that far behind.

moana
Jun 18, 2005

one of the more intellectual satire communities on the web
Be careful when planting companion plants. I just went outside to see where I could plant my seedlings in the raised bed I haven't touched since last fall and, well...

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goatse guy
Jan 23, 2007
hello im back in ai buy me avatars plz :-*

CommonShore posted:

What are everyone's garden goals this year? Philosophically, I mean?

1. Finish planting my front yard with natives.

2. Experiment with some annuals in pots.

3. Grow tomatoes and peppers in pots.

4. Make some progress on planting my backyard with natives.

5. Install some kind of water feature. I live near a busy freeway so I'm looking to cover the sound with some pleasant white noise.

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Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

CommonShore posted:

What are everyone's garden goals this year? Philosophically, I mean?

Crush the aphid menace.

Grow some trees. I put in a Japanese maple and I'm also encouraging a bunch of volunteer maples that have popped up.

Grow more flowers. Marigolds are going strong. Geraniums coming back. Got a huge volunteer false indigo taking over one bed. And I planted some lilacs too.

Control the tomatoes. I want to keep the indeterminates manageable. I always look away for a day or two and some sucker has taken off and flowered and then I'm reluctant to remove it because I know it'll fruit. I've already spaced out the maters to control disease but hopefully I can keep them tidy too.

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