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madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Ah, last year I tried to grow vegetables, so I will toot my successes and failures here.

SUCCESS
-Courgettes (zucchinis) are surprisingly easy to container grow. I had two plants in large cheap £1 store pots with no real specialist compost in them. Each plant produced roughly 6 courgettes I believe, with no feeding, little watering, and another English "summer" (crap weather). Growing them in pots made it easy to keep the slugs off, and they were very delicious. I recommend picking them when small and tender rather than letting them swell and get watery.

FAILURES
-Tomatoes. Last year was a terrible outdoor season in England for them, mine got blossom end rot and had lots of other problems, despite feeding and watering. I grew them in grow bags. I don't think they got enough sun, and there were no real fruits I would've liked to have eaten.

-Sweetcorn. Complete disaster. Got battered over by the wind, died easily, again didn't get enough sun, not enough plants to self pollinate. No edible cobs.

-Turnips. Slugged to death. No seedlings survived.
-Carrots. Tried growing in containers (I have heavy clay soil). The containers flooded, carrots rotted and slugs got to them too.

UNKNOWN
-Leeks. I grew from seed and many got eaten by the slugs, but a few plants survived. I haven't got round to harvesting them, and they haven't bolted so I'm going to harvest them this weekend I think.

I had a patch of about 1m by 1m (we have a big garden but its VERY wild), shaded by an apple tree and defined by wood, but not in raised beds. The biggest problem in my garden is the slugs, the bindweed and the brambles. gently caress all of those. Pains in the arse. The slugs in my garden are so big I had to fill ice cream tub with beer daily. Beer was probably my biggest expense.

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madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Anubis posted:

Mulching with oak leaves also can supposedly help.

I know for a fact that this does not work because there's an oak tree just to the left of my veggie patch. Holly leaves (supposedly spike them) also had limited success. Eggshells are a traditional method, but I didn't try them. I think one of the problems was that my mum feeds the birds too much, so they don't want to eat our slugs! We had frogs and toads at one point due to the small wildlife pond, but their numbers have dramatically decreased in recent years.

This year I'm really going to try again and clear the patch properly, raise it with more wood to make a sort of raised bed and sort out the ground. There's grassy tussocks all over the place and I have no idea why :iiam: . Seriously, they look just like the weeds in Harvest Moon.

In terms of herbs, we've got a rosemary bush, but that's it. The chives died :(

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Unless you're growing rare heritage varieties, there is little to no point growing potatoes in England because they're so cheap in the shops. The last few years have been terrible for blight. As tomatoes and potatoes are the same family, they both get them and you just end up with a huge gooey mess.

Every piece of compost in our garden seems to have mini potatoes in too...

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
I forgot to post this yesterday, but the blog I read about personal finace has a page on their vegetable garden's triumphs and failures over 2008. They live in Portland, OR, and have a fairly large plot (2/3 of an acre) with fruit trees.

http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/01/03/the-grs-garden-project-winners-and-losers-for-2008/

They also have a post on 7 tips for starting a vegetable garden.

http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2009/01/11/7-tips-for-starting-your-own-vegetable-garden/

And forget eating dandelions- go for nettles instead! The young tips can be cooked just like spinach. Of course, they're also an excellent indicator of good soil quality too.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Oh, you guys have aerogardens!! I saw the informercial for that and really really want one, in fact I'd like to get into aero/hydroponics properly, but I've no idea where to start. :? If you mention hydroponics people tend to automatically think of drug growing, but I like to imagine a beautiful future where hydroponic farms are elegant skyscrapers in the city... Where do I begin? I'd love a degree in horticulture (I'm too thick for botany).

In an update on my garden exploits... the cress on my windowsill has failed to sprout.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Videodrome posted:

It's really not "gardening" because the computer controls everything. It knows when to pump water through the roots, when to turn the light on and off, and when to ask for more nutrients and water. If you actually want to learn something the Aerogarden is not the route to go.

Yeah, I'd really like a proper hydroponic set up to play with- ebb and flow, liquid nutrients, bigass grow-lights etc. I have a feeling my stoner brother would hijack it though, or my parents wouldn't be happy with the electricity bill. My plan is to learn to grow hydroponically in a storage container, and then join the BAS (british antarctic survey) and go grow them some courgettes at the bottom of the earth. The Australian base has hydroponics, we should have them too! ...oooh, how cool would a hydroponic farm supplying all the bases on the Antarctic continent be... (yes, I know, I'm getting carried away.)

Anyway, this weekend is weed weekend, so I'm going to be ouside the whole time finally ruining my lovely receptionist's manicure.
It's also time chose and plan what I'm going to grow this year. Courgettes are a definate yes. I think I'll also try my hand at pumpkin and squash too.

What's everyone else growing?

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
I finally dug out those pesky leeks today because I saw a few brambles starting to seed in my plot and I wanted to get it dug over and in a state of readiness. They smell so strong- I have never smelt such pungent oniony leeks. Good value for money though, the £1 pack of seeds from Wilkinsons wielded around £2-3 of leeks (organic leeks are very expensive I find). Of course, that doesn't include the many four-packs of beer I used in my slug annihilation, but I'm definitely going to go for leeks again this year.

So the plan for this year is 2 vegetable beds and a no-fuss flower bed up against the fence to provide habitat for pollinating insects. It's going to be a lot of hard work- I got my bed from last year dug over and started on the second vegetable one, but man is that heavy clay murder! I swear you could make pots out of my "soil".

In terms of plants, so far it looks like leeks and peas or French beans and courgettes are my definites for this year, with sunflowers in my flowerbed because they make me happy :)

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

CHEEZball posted:

Patio isn't covered no, but I was expecting to water water water anyway since I'm in Saskatchewan. It's really dry here period :/

What would be good tomato varieties for in a pot? Something medium sized for sandwiches and salads?

Go for some hardier less thirsty types- look for types developed for/in climates such as Mexico, Turkey or Greece. Google tells of the fabled Purple Calabash Tomato, some utterly fugly purple tomato from Mexico that's supposedly fairly drought tolerant. If you don't water like clockwork, your tomato skins will split and you'll have :emo: tomatoes with little cuts all over them.

Vermiculite or water retaining gels can be put in containers or hanging baskets to help prevent water loss. If you insist on terracotta pots, get glazed ones (pretty expensive, so I'd go for plastic instead).

I finished digging over both of my vegetable beds today, and planted a row of garlic, two rows of leeks and a row of peas. Other things I'm growing this year are blue pumpkins, courgettes and possibly beetroot and tomatoes (my mum is more enthused about those two). Just got to finish the flowerbed now, so I can attract pollinating insects... oh the effort, I feel like I've dragged a 2 tonne truck this weekend!

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

HeatherChandler posted:

I am overwhelmed by the rainbow of beautiful tomatoes. I just don't have the space anymore! I really hope I am not the only freak of nature that feels like I am in the most wonderful candy store when I look at tomato varieties.

Too many fricking seed companies, too many freaking varieties and I STILL couldn't find the varieties of anything that were recommended by "Gardening Which?". Seriously, I nearly burst into tears in the garden centre because there were far too many seed varieties.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Ron_Jeremy posted:

Does anyone have an opinion on soil replacement when it comes to container gardening? My containers are reasonably large (18" x 18" x 4') and I really noticed a dropoff in production last year. Should I be looking at replacing all the soil, some of it, or sticking with the existing soil and getting better at my fertilizer selection?

You should definitely be replacing the soil and giving the containers a good clean with hot soapy water yearly. Not only does the soil lose nutrients fairly quickly, diseases build up in the soil, especially if you grow the same thing again and again. People who grow their favourite vegetable year after year in the same container and soil are going to run into some nasty projects in a few years.
At the very least you should be swapping round the family of plants you grow (legumes one year, then brassicas, then roots etc.) and mix in a fresh 2 inches of compost into the batch.

quote:

For me, it's important that I pick seeds that will grow into plants that'll produce identical seeds. A lot of hybrids are either sterile, or they'll produce seeds from one parent type or the other, but won't produce the same hybrid type. That's not desirable for me, so I try to avoid the hybrids
Yeah, F1's can be a pain, but I don't collect my seeds apart from broad beans so it's not generally a problem for me. Last year I bought the cheapest generic seeds from Wilkinson (Wilko Quality Brand!) and I got viable plants from every packet, except the swedes that got insta-slugged.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
What's "bolting"? All the books I read tell me that with species like beetroot, leeks, carrots etc, I have to lift them out before they bolt. Is that when those species go to seed? So, if I wanted to collect leek seeds or whatever, I'd leave the a few leeks in the ground until they bolted... right?

The only seeds I've ever collected were sunflowers (put head in paper bag, shake), honesty (that plant that has flat circular seed pods), and pumpkin (eww, gooey!).

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

StoolBot posted:

I really want the sweet corn, but earlier in the thread someone mentioned you need a 10'x10' plot to make it work. I'm assuming I could do any 100sqft equivalent, but could I get away with a smaller patch? I haven't built my raised garden yet, but I'm afraid that will take up a lot of my space.

Any tips/suggestions/criticisms would be beyond appreciated.

Corn is wind pollinated so you have to plant in a block for it to produce large edible cobs. If you don't have enough plants or a big enough block, they just wont polinate properly. It's very hit and miss with a small patch, I had about 9 corn plants last year in a block although my mum says they produced cobs (I moved out so half my vegetables had to fend for themselves for 7 months), there was no mention of her eating any or if any edible cobs were made.

Corn is also not good value for money unless you're buying some weirdass super organic grown by nuns variety at a specialist health food shop for £5 a cob. It's bad premium for space too- I found it took up lots of light, water and space generally, although you could always try the 3 sisters planting method (it's been mentioned a couple of times here- corn provides support for beans and squash produces ground cover underneath to block light from the weeds).

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

PopeCrunch posted:

Heads up: If you're looking for stuff to compost or even just good stuff to mix into your soil to give more nitrogen, Starbucks and most other coffee shops will happily give you their used coffee grounds free for the asking. Coffee grounds are AMAZING for plants, I throw a trash bag or so into my compost every so often and I am going to have more tomatoes and zucchini than I have any idea what to do with.

It is a good problem to have.

And you know who's not very fond of coffee? The slugs! That was one of the tricks that actually worked a little last year. Starbucks in England prebag their used grounds and stick a label on saying "grounds for your garden"... I always feel like I'm stealing though when I walk out of there with a bag full!

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Things are sprouting, I'm so excited! I can see a few leek seedlings just peeking out, and my garlic is just starting too... although it looks like something (squirrel?) tried to dig it up.

heather posted:

You can always eat the blossoms; each blossom you eat a zucchini is never born.
That sounds like something out of immensely creepy sci-fi regarding abortionist aliens.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Goddammit, I finally sowed my courgette and pumpkin seeds in a seed tray outdoors, and something dug them up 3 or 4 hours later. I'm so cross, they didn't even eat the seeds, just moved them around and muddled them all up.

I bet it was my brother.


In other news, I think I might have planted my garlic too close together. The leeks have continued to germinate, but no sign from the peas. I think I'll have to try again with the pumpkin and courgette indoors, but my mum's junk is all over the place so I can't get to the windowsill easily downstairs.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Okay guys, horrible shady area next to a massive conifer tree and my neighbours 4ft fence. I've dug out most of the brambles and removed a ton of roots, and will finish this at the weekend. There were lots of bulbs (most likely bluebell) that I've removed to replant later.

The problem is, it's very rocky soil. It's where the builders dumped some rubble after they did our extension.

1) What can I grow there apart from replanted bulbs?

2) Will anything edible grow in shade.

I have a feeling I'm going to have to shimmy up that conifer with a folding saw at the weekend. See you in The Goon Doctor when this all goes horribly wrong.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
I'm in south east England so zoning doesn't apply. We have a temperate climate, similar to Seattle. It rains a lot. The soil is very fertile. Highs of about 25 degrees C in summer.

And it's really really shading. All that's been growing there for the past 5 years is ivy and brambles and bluebells (which act as carpeting in woodland, so really don't need much light).

I'm definitely going to have to shimmy up that tree with a saw, but it's scheduled to rain for the next 2 weeks :(

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Cakefool posted:

I finally turned out our compost bin, some 3 years after we started it. Seeing as we never did it properly, just drilled some air holes in the side of a plastic dustbin, it's never had the good stuff turned out, so it was powdery black/brown, the only recognisable stuff was eggshells, which the wife assures me is normal.

You're lucky- my mum has this fascination with composting old cotton clothes, so occasionally I'll go out to turn the bins and end up with a pair of granny panties swinging from my garden fork. :gonk:


Gardening Which did a great article last year, trialling different compost myths and mixes. The quickest way to get compost, better than any additive, was simply turning it every week and throwing on a bucket of water if it was in a bin without a lid. They managed to get usable compost in 3months, IIRC.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

ChaoticSeven posted:

Well, I've been busy.

That's not a garden, that's a farm.

And also, I would like to commend you for being crazy enough to manage all that land.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
I don't understand why people buy ivy. Our garden looks like some kind of crazy Indiana Jones set with all the vines growing all over the place. At least English ivy isn't poisonous to the touch, but it did give my mum 36 stitches in her right thigh (she was pulling it off the house and put her foot through a hidden skylight).

Our brambles don't really make any fruit. All their energy goes in inch long thorn production.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Someone on here better show me how to puck and gut a wood pigeon, because boy am I sick to death of them eating my seedlings! Man cannot live on garlic alone, people! All my peas, leeks, sunflowers, pumpkins and courgettes have had to be restarted indoors. I don't have any proper compost because I can't drive and my mum is procrastinating, so I'm using our terrible compost full of sticks and eggshells and half rotted granny panties. GRAAAAGGHGHGGAAAAGGHH!!! *goon rage*

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Zeta Taskforce posted:



One of the stumps. I started collecting kitchen waste in hopes of eventually having a compost pile.

That's going to coppice, so it's best if you dig it out completely, unless you're planning a career as a coppicer/charcoal maker.

ChaoticSeven, the silvery stuff on your leaf looks fungal so you might have to spray to get rid of it.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Can anyone tell the difference between a pumpkin and a courgette seedling? Only the squirrel smooshed them all about in the seed tray and I don't know what's what but I had a specific place for the pumpkins and was planning on containering the courgettes again this year :sigh:

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Well, this thread was getting visual, so I felt it was time to break out the pictures.

Thread, say hello to my parent's garden! It's split into 3 hideously overgrown thirds. Let's begin!

This is the front third, with deck, swing, bird feeding station, washing line. The blah blah practical lawn bit. Very boring.



Oh look, seedings! My pumpkins/courgettes are looking a bit leggy.


Anyway, down the garden path to the important bit: My veggie plot. To the left against the fence is my pollination border. The middle plot is where my pumpkin will be. That container has lily bulbs in, and you can just make out my row of garlic on the right hand plot.


Lastly, the last third. Or as we call it, the jungle.

I wish I had LARPing buddies.

Here's my crappy halfarsed wildlife pond. It leaks.


But no worries, my brother has been digging me a new one!


I'm not sure how deep the hole is, but I'm about 5ft2 and it's over my head by quite a way.


Well, here's a panorama from inside the hole. On dry days it would make an awesome Tattooine playset, but I don't have any figurines. On a day like today, the clay was so sticky that the hole tried to eat my shoe as I tried to exit.



Anyway, that was my garden in all it's leafy glory.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

HeatherChandler posted:

My allotment neighbor in England told me a marrow is just a courgette that got too big. I think really it is a seperate kind of squash, but I've heard it used interchangeably with squash and find it all very confusing.

Firstly, zuccini is Italian, whereas courgette is French. Different parts of the world with different heritages say whichever. Apparently Australia say zuccini and New Zealand say courgette. GAH.

Technically, yes a marrow is just a stupidly large courgette, but if you want to grow marrow (it's good stuffed!) then it's best to choose a variety designed to grow to marrow size. If you go for one that was meant to be an itty bitty courgette it might taste bitter or be too watery. Do you not eat marrows in the US then?
For more info on marrows, watch this flash cartoon:
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/marrow/

And when you say squash, I presume you mean butternut squash, which is that large orange gourd thing? That's what most English people will think you mean.

quote:

mange tout are baby snow peas

Mange tout tend to be the flatter varieties. The rounder eat whole peas are called sugar snap peas (or at least the ones I'm growing are).

quote:

No sweeteners, nothing but pure tea. I like my tea black just like my metal
Amen.
I drink my tea with a slosh of cold water instead of the usual milk. Milk is disgusting.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

imaginaryfriend posted:

Okay... now I'm going to have to go research tea and convince the commune that we need to grow it!

I think we need a subforum called Goons in Communes were we can talk about gardening and tie dye and running your car off chip fat.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

FuzzyDunlop posted:

On another, sadder note, this blog post really struck a chord with me.
Anyway, the post is about the destruction of her street garden that she has been keeping up for twelve years in her neighborhood. Just a sad story of how people don't respect nature or beautiful things and end up trashing it so it's as dirty as they feel inside. :( But it's also a testament to the power of gardening, and the reasons why we keep going, despite the many setbacks a gardener has to face throughout the season. So in that sense, I found it rather affirming.

I think that's the one reason I can't be a guerilla gardener right now. There's so many spaces in my town that need love and attention, but I just know they'd get ruined days later. I just don't have the money or effort to act as housewife to the world, so for now I'm just selfishly concentrating on my own garden.

However, several people at work have expressed interest in getting seedlings from me, so I'm going to see if I can swindle a "suggested donation" out of them, even if it's only 20p a plant.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

HeatherChandler posted:


I feel like such an old bitch complaining all the time about dem dere teenagers.

Another dumb non-veg question: I bought a pack of that wildflower seed mix just to throw in this silly bare patch on a hill I can't be bothered to do anything with. I get to broadcast and rake in, but do I need to wait until after the frost date for something like that? It didn't have any directions on it other than to broadcast.

1- Lay of the teenagers. My life is empty and I fill it with goons and booze. Also White Lightning is hobo cider, kids these days drink vodka.

2- Wildflowers/creating a meadow
Wildflowers like lovely soil. Seriously. If you want to turn an old lawn into a wildflower meadow, you have to scrape of 10cm or so of topsoil until you're nearly at subsoil level. If the bare patch is getting loads of light and is bare for some other reason (wear and tear?) then you shouldn't have a problem. English wildflowers are fairly hardy and can survive most minor spring frosts and April is the right time to sow. Just rake em in and be prepared to lose a fair percentage to birds.
By "broadcast" I presume you mean "wildly chuck seeds all over the place as if feeding imaginary chickens"? You had me confused for a second.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

MarshallX posted:

Anyone have any non-pesticidal methods for killing slugs? I've tried beer in a tin pan and it only got 3 or 4. I'm talking 20-30 per night infesting my gardens last year and I want to be proactive this year.

It's common for our entire town to have slugs, they lurv the soil.

Beer traps have to be deep or the slugs just slither back out. I use an ice cream tub full of beer every square metre of plot. Deterrents, such as eggshells or used coffee grounds (get em free from Starbucks!) don't generally work for me, although I did have some success with a clay pellet one I bought- you had to use it so frequently that it was costing about £5 a week!

But if you have a really high slug population, then you're going to have to introduce a predator- frogs, nematodes or yourself.

frogs and toads
Make a pond, or provide lots of ground cover in shady places to create damp amphibian habitat

Nematode worms
You buy the nematodes as little eggs which you then sprinkle into your watering can and use to water the plants as you would with normal water. The tiny worms then enter the slugs and kill them from the inside out. You have to reapply a sprinkling of worms every so often (read the packet for instructions). A good brand is Nemaslug. This option is fairly expensive too, but very safe.

human
Go out into the garden in the dark with a torch and a bucket of boiling, salty water. Pick up slugs, drop in bucket. Rinse and repeat. You can also cut them in half with scissors.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Oh god. The slug carnage. I gave in and used pellets (organic ones, but I have no idea how that works)

I got a surprise the other day when I was weeding- some of the peas I sowed directly into the ground survived afterall so I've got little pea shoots growing up!

All the pumpkin seedlings in plot one were ravaged by slugs, but one survived in a container so I'll transplant that this weekend. Plot two (the one I dug this year) is having serious bindweed problems. I have to weed every day and it just keeps coming :sigh:. Trouble is I can't dig the roots up without disturbing all my plants.

The garlic is THRIVING though. Easiest thing to grow ever!

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
The packet was fairly unhelpful because of the number of languages on it, but I think the variety is called Fokhagyma and it's a Hungarian cultivar (googling it just came up with the Hungarian wiki page on garlic, so I guess it's just Hungarian garlic).

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

Seluin posted:

Anyone have any idea why squash plants (pumpkin, butternut, delicata) would suddenly die off? Temperature has been mostly fine (although getting a bit warmer), and they've kept moist. Were green and healthy for a while, and then just died away.

Also, my pumpkin appears to have small red insects of about half an inch all around and on it. Anyone know what those are?

Those are probably related- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_spider_mite

Or, small slugs chewing through stems at the base.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Stake them when they get big? That's what I did last year. This year there's no sign of my dahlias and I'm pissed off because I picked out a really pretty variety called Park Princess that was supposed to be huge and frilly.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

mischief posted:

Any secrets to getting tomatoes to actually vine on a rope trellis? My cucumbers and beans are off like gangbusters but the tomatoes are just kind of shrubbing at about 2' tall, even with pruning.

Sorry for any simple questions, first year and all.

-They might be a bush variety of tomatoes instead of a vine one
-Tomatoes don't really get that tall. They don't climb like creepers.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

coyo7e posted:

I've always been fascinated by the idea of consuming nettle - as food or for health/allergy-related benefits.. But I really have no clue about them, although they do grow wild in my area I was wondering about the feasibility or cultivating some? I've always had terrible allergies and wanted to try nettle tea, and at worst scenario it'd grow out of hand and keep the homeless people from trying to get in my backyard to root through the trash.. ;)

Then I recommend you get the book "101 uses for Stinging Nettles"

It's a slim paperback but it's got some cool stuff in it- the leaves and roots make dye, you can make cordage from it, it's an insect repellent etc etc etc.

Nettles are very invasive. To cultivate at home I recommend confining to containers. Just go out to your nearest nettle patch, dig up some root and put it in a pot full of compost.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
Argh, I went out today and the slugs had eaten through the stalk on one of my two remaining courgette plants! I hate it when they do that so much because it just means instant death for the plant!

Anyway, here is my last courgette plant with a pea plant behind it. The idea is that the nitrogen the pea provides will give the courgette a boost.


Leeks and garlic in plot 2. Plot one in the background has some tiny tomato plants in it, but I am less than hopeful of their future. It was originally going to be a pumpkin patch until they were all slaughtered at the hands of the slugs.


My last remaining pumpkin plant is looking a bit peaky. I don't think it likes being container bound, but I don't want to risk the slugs again.


Pfft. I don't know why I care. I'm going to Hawaii for 2 months in a few weeks and although my mum says she wants to keep the vegetable garden, I doubt she'll put any effort into it :(

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

SKeefe posted:

When is it too late to fertilize a garden? My plants are probably nearing full size, is that too late?

Well, it depends what you want to feed and with what. You could apply a liquid fertliser, but it could cause plants such as tomatoes to put more effort into foliage than they would into fruits. Or you could apply a nutrient rich mulch like good quality compost around the base of your plants and let the worms do the work.

My peas have their first flower today!! Of course, my jubilation was quickly ruined as I stepped backwards onto a rusty nail. Dear god ow. Ruined my brand new flip flops with a puncture wound :(

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

toenut posted:

My celery is still barely coming out of the ground after two months, so you are way ahead of mine. I've never done celery before, so I don't know what to expect.

Also, I must have missed one zucchini when I harvested this weekend because today I found this one that has grown to an epic size.



An oversized courgette is technically a marrow. They're good if hollowed out and stuffed with a mixture of the courgette and rice and then baked in the oven. Although if you're purposely growing them that size, it's best to choose a variety designed to get big, as some may taste bitter or too watery the larger they get.

Does anyone know of any good varieties of sunflowers to grow as a food crop? It's mainly to feed poultry, but it would be good if we could eat them too. Less that 10 feet tall would be good too, as I'm pretty titchy. We've got a site that get's tonnes of sun though and has good drainage.

madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage

NosmoKing posted:

Fix my blossom end rot on my tomatoes!!

Please!!

What calcium/fertilizer stuff has worked for you??

Less sporadic watering!

And a sprinkle of organic miracle grow plant food.

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madlilnerd
Jan 4, 2009

a bush with baggage
I'm so happy; I got back from my 2.5 months away from home and my mum held up her part of the bargain by not letting the weeds get too settled in my plot! The plant I thought was a courgette turned out to be a pumpkin (there was a mixup when a squirrel dug in my seed tray) and has taken over a huge portion of the garden. I had no idea they grew like crazy!

In terms of produce, I now have:
-a white pumpkin the size of a football which I'm leaving on the plant to see if I can coax into growing bigger. The plant doesn't seem to have any other flowers on it though :confused:

-plenty of leeks. My mum hadn't thinned any of them out so I went round yesterday and picked a few of the smaller ones out and ate them

-Lots of green tomatoes on what were 3 straggly little plants that I didn't think would survive.

-a potted courgette plant with new shoots on it.

Everything's looking a little jaded though, and it's a shame I missed the snow pea season, so I'm going to do a proper feed and weed cleanup this week to give them a September boost.

Question- If I my tomatoes are seemingly happy but not perfectly upright, should I bother staking them?

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