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Yeah I mean the issue with Gehennom is "it's boring", not "it's hard". The early game up through to the Castle is full of neat things to see. Gehennom? A maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
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You are lucky! Full moon tonight. Watch out! Bad things can happen on Friday the 13th.
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Just got back into this game after a long time away. Despite everyone recommending dwarf Valkyries and me also trying Knights and Wizards, my best two runs so far have been my first game back as a Rogue and then later my Ranger attempt where I was hoping to cheese Stormbringer (didn't, got to the top of Sokoban before a fire ant killed me; I should probably remember to use Elbereth). Being able to kill things from range makes such a huge difference for my early game. It makes me wonder if I'm missing something about Valks and Knights, since the former particularly is supposed to be a cakewalk early game.
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Valkyries are considered easy because they start with passable weapons and armour and can just move-attack almost everything in the early game, and every character is super strong in the mid- to late-game. Some things will still gently caress you up though, such as that fire ant, which can do fire damage that armour will not reduce. Elemental damage is pretty rare in the early game though, you'd likely get through it without seeing anything like that until winter wolves start showing up most of the time. Knights are much the same, and arguably have a better late game, but have some annoying alignment issues to deal with. I imagine this is less pronounced in 3.6 with Elbereth being almost useless. As you say, rogues and rangers have easy access to some decent ranged options, but ranged combat is pretty annoying in nethack, being limited to cardinal directions and not having support for such simple things as picking up thrown items (unless patched). You can get similar early ranged attack with less annoyance and far more utility from a wizard, which used to be far more popular.
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..btt posted:You can get similar early ranged attack with less annoyance and far more utility from a wizard, which used to be far more popular. I've never ascended a wizard, but I have most fun playing as a wizard. I love that early-game force bolt advantage! I'm also hungry half the time and my pet cat gets BEEFY.
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effika posted:hungry half the time and my pet I used to play a lot of wizard. Always with pettype:none, and always dove to sokoban for early food (and strength).
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Valkyrie is also recommended because it's extremely easy for them to get two of the best weapons in the game.
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Not sure if Excalibur and Mjollnir are part of the "best" weapons set. Nice to have early on, certainly!
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Sage Grimm posted:Not sure if Excalibur and Mjollnir are part of the "best" weapons set. Nice to have early on, certainly! Mjollnir is actually the strongest weapon at +0, since the bonus damage is a fixed amount rather than a multiplier. Once you get a pile of enchant weapon scrolls or a marker, you should sacrifice until you get Grayswandir or Frost/Fire Brand.
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As someone who's first ascension was saved from death by green slime in Gehennom by throwing Firebrand into the air and hitting myself on the head to burn away the slime, Firebrand owns. Frostbrand couldn't do that. 
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Sage Grimm posted:Not sure if Excalibur and Mjollnir are part of the "best" weapons set. Nice to have early on, certainly! There's better, but either at +7 is good enough to use the rest of the game.
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Sage Grimm posted:Not sure if Excalibur and Mjollnir are part of the "best" weapons set. Nice to have early on, certainly! It's the best weapon you can reliably get early on, and although you can get better poo poo later, by late game I generally just don't care. It's also been made marginally more useful lategame in 3.6 due to the changes in how MC works, by virtue of the fact it grants level drain protection.
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..btt posted:As you say, rogues and rangers have easy access to some decent ranged options, but ranged combat is pretty annoying in nethack, being limited to cardinal directions and not having support for such simple things as picking up thrown items (unless patched). pickup_thrown is part of unmodded nethack (3.6) now. I feel that Wizards are still probably the strongest class, or at least the strongest all-around class. My personal easiest ascensions were arc and tou though, since both lucked upon Grayswandir.
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Eric the Mauve posted:The only kinds of weapon are Magicbane and loser weapons I've barely played it since I think some of the changes are awful, but I'm betting Magicbane is nowhere near as good with the Elbereth changes. Still end-game viable, of course, but no longer basically a guaranteed win.
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Sage Grimm posted:Not sure if Excalibur and Mjollnir are part of the "best" weapons set. Nice to have early on, certainly! Both of these weapons are strong enough that you can use them as your primary weapon through the end game. They aren't the "best", but they're good enough.
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Does anyone have the NAO copy/paste for settings? It would do things like make all gold auto pickup and auto-organize your bag for you.
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Is there a repository of ascension files somewhere? Apparently it's possible to genocide mailer daemons in nethack, no idea if that shows up on ascension files. It involves: -wishing for a statue of a mailer daemon -casting flesh to stone on the statue -killing the mailer daemon next turn before it disappears/delivers the message -RNG gets angry/angrier/angriest/decides to make a sandwich (pick one)
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I have been playing for 3 years. I just realized blessed scrolls of Remove Curse uncurses your entire inventory. I am not a smart man
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This makes bones files... substantially more useful
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The next time you try this you'll destroy the unholy water you were saving.
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I just had that moment, I feel like I'm forever away from knowing when to curse something
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theres only a handful of things more useful cursed, and you can just drop them or store them in a bag when uncursing other stuff
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flakeloaf posted:The next time you try this you'll destroy the unholy water you were saving. This but also your stack of cursed scrolls of teleport.
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moller posted:This but also your stack of cursed scrolls of teleport. I usually do it with my cursed potion of gain level, usually somewhere in gehennom.
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:Is there a repository of ascension files somewhere? A lot of the classics are buried in old Usenet which is not so readable anymore, but you could try these for a start.
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Thank you for that link.
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If you're going to sacrifice your own race and may summon a demon, you're gonna wanna take off that ring of conflict Sigh...
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mooyashi posted:If you're going to sacrifice your own race and may summon a demon, you're gonna wanna take off that ring of conflict On the other hand, leaving a bones file of Gnome Town with Juiblex in it 
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Rappaport posted:On the other hand, leaving a bones file of Gnome Town with Juiblex in it Exactly what happened. Apologies in advance to whomever finds it
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NoNostalgia4Grover posted:Is there a repository of ascension files somewhere? It's amazing that there are still things I don't know about NetHack.
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By "genocide" does he mean "extinct"?mooyashi posted:Exactly what happened. Apologies in advance to whomever finds it If you're apologizing for this you're not thinking the right way yet.
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flakeloaf posted:By "genocide" does he mean "extinct"? Apparently killing one mailer daemon kills them all in your game(genocide) & disables the mail-message feature in your game session. Not sure if the disabled mail-message carries over to new nethack games on public Nethack servers. Or how Nethack public servers handle multiple simultaneous mailer daemon genocides. Knowing Nethack, there probably IS something uniquely coded for those scenarios.
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flakeloaf posted:By "genocide" does he mean "extinct"? I mean I play on mobile, the users with Hearse enabled seem to be about a dozen people. With my luck it will be me
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mooyashi posted:I mean I play on mobile, the users with Hearse enabled seem to be about a dozen people. Welp
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Nethack gives me perspective. You can be scrupulous, faithful and cautious your entire life, but still get hit by a bus out of nowhere
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Btw I killed Juiblex. Had a wand of digging an no prayer timeout, so I scrapped his rear end. The invisible Nalfeshnee though... I guess it wasn't my bones at any rate
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Yeah the trouble with hearse is that there are people who are going to intentionally leave nasty bones files just to gently caress you over. NetHack is generally pretty well balanced to not hit you with anything before you can handle it if you've been careful (barring the odd "gnome with the wand of death", but honestly even that is only an early-game problem given how magic resist or reflection is one of the first things people go for), but bones files will often throw that out the window since there's no level checking or anything.
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Also see: people who fountain quaff for wishes who get water demons.
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