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This thread's more about doing portrait work for bands and not so much concert photography, but I thought I'd pass on my story just because...hell, I've to tell somebody. Flogging Molly at The National, March 9. The venue's website says they discourage photography because the flashes disrupt the band and fans. No flash, no problem! So I pack everything and hope for the best: XTi, 50mm f/1.8, 17-50 f/2.8, 100mm f/2.8. We're stuck in traffic outside the place and I yell to a security guard standing outside "Hey, will it be ok if I bring in this camera bag?" "Sure, but no flash, no video!" he says. I go through the pat-down line and the guy says "What's in the bag?" Camera gear, I say, and show him. "No flash, no video, have fun." I hand in my ticket further up the line, get the same question and same response: no flash, no video. Three for three! We get inside and head to the balcony where I'm shooting some test shots of the openers. This older guy taps my shoulder and says "Do you have a press pass?" I say no, and explain that three different people have Ok'd my being there and that I'm not doing pro photos. Cool, he says, have fun. He adds, "Duck down once the show starts, you don't want to block anyone. And come back and see me once the show starts, I'll let you in there for a few minutes" and he points to the VIP section at the front-front of the balcony." Jesus, I want to hug this guy but I just shake his hand instead. THEN I get another tap, and this guy says "I need you to come with me, I've gotta ask my boss about this." Outside the head security guy asks the question "Does the lens come off?" Well, yeah. "We just got word from the band, no 'pro' photography allowed. Sorry, but they shouldn't have even let you through the door." I beg them to let me keep the camera instead of taking it back to the car, and they say cool, just no pictures. I kept my word until the last 30 minutes of the show, then I turned off the LCD and started shooting. I've seen these guys before and I figured gently caress it, if I get kicked out so be it. The crowd had been well behaved so I wasn't worried about some on-edge bouncer throwing me through the air or anything. So! Considering I took every picture in the middle of the crowd and with one eye open for security, I think I did ok. I was too far for anything but my 100mm f/2.8 (and some of these severely cropped; I would've killed for a 70-200), and as much as I wanted to avoid ISO 1600 I just didn't have enough light. Everything shot at f/2.8, 1/200, ISO 1600, and if the colors are weird it's because of the lights; not much I can do about it. Anyway, here's the set and here are some favorites:
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2009 16:00 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:02 |
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Bottom Liner posted:Oh, by all means feel free. This thread is for any music related photography. I'll be shooting this years warped tour, and FM are one of the bands I'm looking most forward to shooting. Great concert shots, though I'm surprised you said the crowd wasn't rowdy.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2009 16:19 |
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Octorok posted:For shooting film, would I be alright on 400ISO with a 50mm/1.8f during a live show? But I'm one guy who's shot one concert, so don't take my word as gospel or anything.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2009 21:12 |
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Private Label posted:I've gotten some good shots with my panasonic point-and-shoot, but I would kill to bring a better camera with me. I'd love to know what it takes to get a press pass for something like this, but I have a sneaking suspicion it involves being employed by, you know, the press.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2009 21:47 |
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Cyberbob posted:hopefully our media passes get us some prime spots for shooting.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2009 21:30 |
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Zurich posted:Hope it's cool to cross-post from PAD (I completely forgot about this thread before I posted there)
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2009 14:38 |
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Private Label posted:They are awesome! Private Label posted:What kinds of lenses do people recommend for concerts? Or is it more playing around with the ISO/shutter speed?
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2009 19:34 |
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warwick5s posted:Dub Trio?
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2009 21:15 |
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Zoowick posted:
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# ¿ May 18, 2009 17:36 |
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natashafatale posted:That looks like it might be "auto levels"...?
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# ¿ May 20, 2009 18:33 |
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Scream Machine posted:Now that I think about it, it's funny that a guy with a tele gets so much heat while nothing is done about the 40 dudes on the dance floor throwing flash at the performers with their Kodaks.
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# ¿ May 22, 2009 20:08 |
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I'm seeing Todd Snider on June 6, and I can't loving wait to pull out all my new toys. 40D plus 50 f/1.4 should make for some great stuff, I'm sick of losing shots due to low light. If I could get the 85 f/1.2 I might be the happiest man alive...albeit the poorest.JohnnyC posted:Look - here's the press photo my band used up until we had a big lineup change.
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# ¿ May 27, 2009 15:15 |
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evil_bunnY posted:EF 85mm f/1.8 USM. I kid Yeah, the 85 f/1.8 is high on my list; in fact if the 50 f/1.4 doesn't impress me enough I may sell it and trade up. Right now my 100mm f/2.8 is my go-to long lens, but if I could go a bit wider and faster? That's butter.
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# ¿ May 27, 2009 17:14 |
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Todd Snider, folk singer. I'd been looking forward to this show for months, but in the end low light is low light, there's only so much you can do about it but accept it, bump to 1600, and move on. I took a shitload of photos of the guy's bare feet; it's kind of a signature thing of his, and I wanted something that fans would recognize and smile at, even if no one else did.
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2009 19:58 |
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I took an absolutely retarded amount of photos on Saturday (god bless the 40D's 6.5 fps, but I've gotta learn to rein it in a little), these are a few I liked. (missed it by that much!)
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2009 15:33 |
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How much are you getting paid?
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2009 20:27 |
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Ha, this is gonna be badass; a friend of mine is in a "yacht rock" band (don't ask) and wants me to do photos while they're shooting a video. The fun part? They've got one boat already, and they're trying to get another so we can have some true Rio-type poo poo happening. The best part is, even if the photos suck, I'm still hanging out on a boat drinking beer all drat day.
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# ¿ Jul 15, 2009 15:16 |
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AtomicManiac posted:Anyway, I'm done with the de-rail. Back to reading the thread. This has seriously over taken the last day of my life.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2009 21:04 |
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AtomicManiac posted:Alright, did some promo shots the other day for a friend who is a solo artist. These are like all the others you've posted: too blurry, and dark to the point of losing all meaningful detail. Take the first one again at sunset (or earlier - it'll work I swear!), it'll be a pretty cool "local boy hangin on his stoop" shot. You might even have him pose playing a guitar, I don't know. A tripod is nice, but it wouldn't have saved these; you'd need an exposure so long that your friend would be a blurry mess by the end.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2009 14:21 |
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Don't even worry about "magic hour" or floodlights or any of that poo poo, lets just start simple and say DAYLIGHT. Daylight is what you want; anytime between dawn and sunset will do. As for white balance, your photos are too 'warm,' it happens when you don't have enough light. What program do you use to edit these?
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2009 21:14 |
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rockcity posted:I also hate having it meter in the middle for the same reason I detest shutter button focusing, my subject, or at least where I want it to focus is not always in the middle. I'd rather manually set the exposure and set my focus button to one of the buttons on the rear so I can tell it exactly what I want a lot easier.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2009 21:25 |
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Four Banger posted:I just found out I got a photo pass for the Flogging Molly Gig next thursday! I gotta go buy a 50/1.8 now! I'm super pumped as this will be my first bigger band. and I made a good contact! vv That's great advice, thanks! jackpot fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Dec 30, 2009 |
# ¿ Dec 30, 2009 17:44 |
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I'm going to a show on the 22nd, Flogging Molly at the NorVa in Norfolk, Virginia. Anybody here know the area well enough to recommend some magazines or any kind of publication that I might contact about getting a press pass, in return for some photos? How's that usually work?
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2010 18:39 |
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AIIAZNSK8ER posted:Any photographer I've seen at the NorVa was there from a larger nationwide magazine. AIIAZNSK8ER posted:I was also thinking of going to the show, Dropkick is the day after, deciding which one to go to.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2010 19:39 |
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AIIAZNSK8ER posted:Theres not much that I have found for music in Hampton Roads. The local paper uses stock photos from the band and hey just shut down the local culture magazine that had food, music, events in it. Any photographer I've seen at the NorVa was there from a larger nationwide magazine. I was also thinking of going to the show, Dropkick is the day after, deciding which one to go to. I know bad lighting is the name of the game, but this show really tried my patience, it was like a freakin' dungeon.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2010 00:01 |
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Flogging Molly show the other night was awesome. What wasn't awesome was not being able to shoot it because I didn't score a press pass and "professional cameras" weren't allowed in.Eeek posted:(insert picture here) My mom's been involved with the parrothead club for years so I hear some stories.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2010 22:10 |
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No. 9 posted:http://www.marshallphoto.com/collection Jim Marshall posted:"Keith Richards during Exile on Main Street sessions, 1972. I think this is one of my best photos — the quintessential Keith photo." This guy obviously never saw PCU, because he's being "that guy."
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2010 16:55 |
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I've recently joined a local online mag, and I'm bugging the absolute poo poo out of them trying to secure a press pass for Flogging Molly at the end of the month; they say they've emailed the band's management but haven't heard back. Assuming they can get me a pass, the whole situation's great; I'm better than most of the photographers they have on "staff" (it's volunteer only, so far, mostly college students), and I get great access to shoot shows I'm already planning to attend.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2010 16:58 |
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Might actually have a job shooting Flogging Molly tonight, if only their press agent will write me back and confirm I'm on the access list. drat, do I want this to happen. Edit: I'm in That is one serious, serious beard. jackpot fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Apr 29, 2010 |
# ¿ Apr 29, 2010 16:27 |
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I had just way too much fun doing this, the whole loving experience ruled. Except for the B.O. Half the people there hadn't had a bath since March, Christ. I've hardly had a chance to do anything yet, but here's a few: Hey Eeek, who do you shoot for? I assume you can't just bring an SLR into a concert like that without a press pass.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2010 08:21 |
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It was 3am and I was exhausted when I posted that; I thought "Whoa, what interesting framing." This morning it's not as interesting to me. I remember wanting to get the lights and his head in the same shot, I just didn't do a very good job of it.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2010 14:01 |
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Eeek posted:I shoot for a newspaper. I am a independent contractor. When I first started, I tried to bring in an SLR, but there are very few places that will let you. However, the place Flogging Molly is playing, they will let you bring in an SLR. Not so much when I shoot arenas.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2010 22:21 |
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Rest of set. jackpot fucked around with this message at 23:46 on May 4, 2010 |
# ¿ May 4, 2010 23:43 |
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Security told me straight off that I could be in the pit for the first three songs only; I was kinda surprised at this, since they're not what I'd consider a big-enough band to warrant something like that, but ok (By the way, what's the logic on the three-song limit? It was the same rule for every band, even the local one. Is it just that you're a distraction, up front like that?). Lighting was great (lots of blue and yellow, thankfully not much red), security was friendly as hell, and the bartender offered me free coke refills. This place is very camera-unfriendly, so it was cool seeing every security guard's expression go from "rear end in a top hat with camera, must smash" to a friendly head-nod and wave once they saw my access pass. I shot til the end of the third song, then (like an rear end in a top hat) when I didn't get booted I decided to keep on shooting. Made it to the end of the fifth song before a guard tapped me and said "Sorry, I gotta get you out of here now." He was friendly about it, though; earlier in that last song Dave King gave me the finger, and me being over the limit might've been why. Then again he was probably just saying hi; he gives everyone the finger. The whole experience was a blast, I loved it.
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# ¿ May 5, 2010 20:28 |
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rockcity posted:As a guy in the front row, I'd be less than pleased if there were a bunch of photographers running in front of me for an hour blocking my view. If I was a performer, I'd rather see a front row of fans than a camera. MMD3 posted:from GIS: http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/dave-king-47187.jpg
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# ¿ May 5, 2010 22:06 |
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MMD3 posted:this NYT article from a few years back http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/arts/19phot.html?_r=1 90 seconds of the first song? 5-10 seconds of a singer's entrance? I understand that there's nothing that can be done about it; if every single photographer tells 'em to eat poo poo and refuses to shoot the show, you know there'll be that one guy who does it just because he knows he's the only one. So there's no way to win. But goddamn, that's just ridiculous.
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# ¿ May 6, 2010 04:25 |
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Eeek posted:So, in Tim McGraw promoter speak, tonight's front of house meant the back of house. Thank you, promoter. I see a few people way up there with point/shoots, maybe you should talk to them, work out a deal.
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# ¿ May 7, 2010 04:21 |
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HPL posted:200 according to the EXIF, and that's on a 50D, so that's like 320 in 35mm terms. I'd just laugh if this happened to me. "Sweet, just let me pull out my 70-300. I'll shoot wide-open at f/5.6, that's plenty fast enough for an event like this."
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# ¿ May 7, 2010 14:44 |
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psylent posted:Why do they bother? All they get is a blur of colour or the back of people's heads. I shouldn't let it ruin my evening, but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Bojanglesworth posted:I mean its nothing lost if you ask them and they say no. As a professional though I see the only way to make any real money is to get paid to actually shoot the show, not trying to sell photos after the fact.
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# ¿ May 13, 2010 16:26 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 20:02 |
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Bojanglesworth posted:I have actually had people contact me after the fact like "um can you take that photo off your site because Im married and…" See, everyone bitches about how it's harder than ever to make money in photography these days, but really they're just not applying themselves. Blackmail never goes out of style.
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# ¿ May 13, 2010 18:32 |