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Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.
Holy poo poo, the AD&D Fiend Folio is a loving treasure trove of ridiculous monsters. I remember reading a review of it in an old issue of Dragon Magazine from the early 80s. Everyone sort of collectively went WTF even when it first came out. Stuff like the speculation the book makes that sheet phantoms (which are utterly ridiculous in their own right) might actually be an undead form of the much beloved lurker is fantastic. It shows that they're really thinking this stuff out thoroughly.

There's so much potential material left in the original monster manual I look forward to as well. It's really the little things that I find hilarious, like why are dolphins lawful good alignment instead of neutral? Um, so they have a functioning society or what gives?

Wizard Whateley fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Mar 23, 2009

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Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.

Chainsawdomy posted:

I'm looking forward to some saggy harpy tits in the next installment.

The topless succubus in the dungeon master's guide gave me the biggest boner ever in junior high.

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.
The "Et tu, Peryton?" line made me laugh harder than I have in months. I look forward to seeing more of these. I agree that the 1st edition modules are prime fodder for more articles. I've got a few of them I'll have to look through.

The rot grub commentary got me thinking on one of my favorite aspects of AD&D. The books basically outright encourage the dungeon master to break the players' balls at every opportunity. I can't remember if it was in the DM guide or a Dragon Magazine article written by Gygax on how to deal with new players at the table who aren't accustomed to table-top games. He said something along the lines that the DM should go out of his way to kill off the new player the first few sessions so he knows what to expect from the game and drive home the life/death nature of the game.

Advanced Dungeons & Dragons cultivated a type of player vs. GM mentality that I think is really missing from modern systems.

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.

Paxicon posted:

Dare I suggest the (http://www.amazon.com/Book-Erotic-Fantasy-Gwendolyn-Kestrel/dp/097420451X ) Book of Erotic Fantasy? A middleground between Horrors of Porn and WTF, DND - Is the world ready?! IS IT?!

I swear there was one of these pre-D20, but I can't remember what it was called exactly or for what system. I want to say it was for 2nd Ed. AD&D. Can anyone help me out? It was always in the back of the game shop and I don't think anyone actually bought it. But I remember covertly thumbing through it.

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.

Wandering Knitter posted:

There was a really popular website with sexual AD&D stuff from back in the day, including the famous Bigsy's Bitch Slap. Sounds completely different though.

I wonder if the website was an electronic version of the actual book. I don't think there would be a Bigby's Bitch Slap in the book I saw though, because the book seemed to take itself pretty seriously. I think it had a similar appearance to all those paperback "Complete" series of books. (Complete Fighter's handbook, complete bard, etc..)

Wizard Whateley fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Mar 27, 2009

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.
Hmmm... 1996 would be about the right year and the content looks familiar. This could be it. I wish it had pictures, because then I would recognize it for sure.

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.

I Love You! posted:

Steve brings something to the frontpage that only Livestock ever really otherwise attempts, and that's genuine upbeat enthusiasm. Steve knows that it is OK to love something that is ridiculous, and he embraces the stupid wholeheartedly. With the regular tone of SA articles being sarcastic, negative, and mocking, his blind optimism honestly feels fresh every time.

Basically steve is pretty great

Yeah, the article struck a chord with me because he really reminds me of myself. I've ardently defended AD&D against all naysayers since Wizards took over the reigns of the franchise and I still run 2nd edition at my table to this day.

It reminds me of arguments I've had, defending "seemingly" stupid rules like when my friend said that it's ridiculous that a barbarian takes 6,000 exp to get to level 2, more than twice that of most other classes and I go into a long-winded explanation of how barbarians are wild and unruly by nature and can't go into formal schooling like other classes do. (if you don't pay to train in between levels it costs double exp to level up hence the ridiculous exp cost)

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.

Bipedal Octopus posted:

I think Zack already did a one man commentary of this, or something similar. It must have been many years ago, but I distinictly remember some tidbits such as "all elves are bisexual" and spells that damage creatures when they have an orgasm.

Anyway, both of these articles were some of the best I've read in months. I've never been able to convince my friends to play DnD, but I bet they would be more willing if they saw how chill and ridiculous the first addition was. Seems like people took it alot less seriously back then.

Which edition were those "flumph" guys added? They are like big hovering saucer things with eye-stalks. I saw a picture of them once and thought they were just wonderful :3:

The Flumph was from the Fiend Folio in 1980 or 1981. Almost all the monsters from that book are beyond ridiculous.

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Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.

Jip_Bip_Jo posted:

Back in high school I played a lot of AD&D 2nd edition with bits of older books mixed in, so this was a nice little nostalgic look at how loving ridiculous some of it got. The best part is that even when they hired actual artists, it still came off as ridiculous and goofy, albeit in a different way.


Or in the case of Jeff Easley who did the art on the cover of the 1st ed. Monster Manual just got really pretty good and continued doing cool covers, especially for 2nd edition.

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