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proudfoot posted:
Absolutely untrue. I went to an Ivy, and when I went, most people flew into a B or C. You have to screw up royally to get a D or F, but the same applies for an A. You had to perform exceptionally to get an A. It could be that I took mainly science courses, however. I saw tons of people fail out of the engineering school. The gen-ed liberal arts courses were a different matter, as most people felt they could sleepwalk through them and manage an A. I didn't show up to 80-90% of those classes and felt upset if I got below a B. Brainworm posted:
This is mostly true, but not entirely. The support system really is top notch, and they provide everything they can to help you succeed in your own insulated little world. But, you also have to consider that you are in the same class as a bunch of overachieving hyper-competitive really bright people. The competition is fierce and it's tougher to stay at the top of the pack in terms of the curve. For this reason, a ton of people would take the most hyper competitive classes at the top-50 school in the same city during the summer. The instruction was fine, but people just breezed by because of lowered expectations and non- cuthroat competition.
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FightingMongoose posted:At the risk of a slight derail I'd like to talk about some of the points raised about the British educational system. Firstly, although you do have to specialise early a lot of science courses now offer a foundation year for those without the maths/science A-levels normally required. Outside of the sciences mature students (over the age of 21) can start the course with no A-levels at all. Yeah, multiple choice exams at the college is a sign of lazy professors who either don't have the time to grade properly or don't give a gently caress. I have had some multiple choice exams when I went to college, and I found them all to be repulsive. Doubly so when you factor in the fact that I had to pay 40 grand a year for that poo poo.
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Vordulak posted:Correction: your parents had to pay 40 grand a year for that poo poo. Or did you seriously put yourself 160k in debt for an education at an Ivy? In which case, you're an idiot. No, I didn't pay for it all. I got by with a combination of loans, a scholarship, and my parents. And if the market rate for a university is 160K for four years, the only universities that are actually worth it are the ivies and arguably the other top-tier schools. The real idiots are those who pay 160K for small colleges that nobody has ever heard of. They are paying Ivy rates without the networking, facilities, prestige, etc...of an Ivy.
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