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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

bowser posted:

Looking for fiction or non-fiction about hostage scenarios, preferably told from multiple perspectives.

Alternatively, a book analyzing hostage scenarios and maybe the evolution of hostage response/negotiation techniques over time.

You might like Stanley Ellin's thriller Stronghold from the 70s about a Quaker community that gets taken hostage and has to manage the situation without betraying their pacifist beliefs

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ProperGanderPusher posted:

Are there any decent modern “sword and planet” books that scratch the same itch as John Carter? There seems to be no shortage of schlocky derivative crap. I was recommended Ginger Star by Leigh Brackett and In the Courts of the Crimson Kings by S.M. Stirling. Anyone else I should know about?

If you're including Leigh Brackett and S.M. Stirling I'm assuming modern means "post-war".

Rice Burroughs was so dominant that most talented people tried to move outside the shadow of his influence as the worst of his progeny flooded the cheap pulps. So there's not much great "sword and planet" stuff out there especially if you're chasing all three legs of the stool "sword", "planet" and "John Carter-like" in addition to well written. You might on the whole be better off chasing non-SF adventure fiction.

Have you read Jack Vance's Planet of Adventure series or Big Planet?

The Old Mars/Venus etc. collections edited by Gardner Dozois and George R. R. Martin should also have stuff you'd like (although there's a lot of stories that go meta-textual rather than homage). There's also The Good Stuff collection/s edited by Dozois but that runs the gamut of tones.

Maybe Mary Gentle's Orthe series or stuff by Walter Jon Williams and Matthew Hughes

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

wheatpuppy posted:

Kinda similar, any recs for historical *fantasy* mysteries? I am thinking like medieval beat cops like Simon Green's Hawk and Fisher, or PIs like Randall Garrett's Darcy. Not opposed to romances if they're decently written.

The Mongolian Wizard series of stories by Michael Swanwick might fit, it's more espionage and pre-WWI though:
https://www.tor.com/series/mongolian-wizard-stories-michael-swanwick/

The Penric And Desdemona series has a fair bit of magical mystery solving ( in fact all the World of Five Gods books are functionally mysteries even if they're heavily disguised, read the novels before the Penric and Desdemona if you want a proper introduction to the world and it's metaphysics).

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Grifter posted:

I will be reading all the recs, except maybe 11/22/63. Where does it fall in terms of horror? I'm not up for Pet Semetery level stuff.

It's not a horror novel, it's an essay on the Kennedy assassination with some supernatural stuff mixed in.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

sloppy portmanteau posted:

Can I get some recommendations for long fantasy/sci-fi series which stick with the same main or small cast of characters throughout and follows their growth? I recently read the Wheel of Time series and that's what I found I liked about it. The payoff with Rands, Matts, and Egwenes evolution especially, I enjoy the shifting power dynamics from the beginning of the series. Then I moved on to the Cradle series and found that satisfying for similar reasons. Currently reading Forge of Destiny due to recommendations in relation to Cradle, but finding it too meandering and will be dropping it.

I'd like to stay with the same characters for a long while so I'm hoping for something almost as long or longer than Cradle, which currently clocks in at around 1M words, but I may be hoping for too much.

The Foreigner series by C. J. Cherryh

Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold

The World of Five Gods series by Lois McMaster Bujold (read through them in publication order but by the time Penric and Desdimona you should have your small cast characters)

The Dragaera series by Steven Brust

There aren't many Science Fiction series like this because they tend to go for epic scope across time and space

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

LifeLynx posted:

I've always liked weird fiction, but ever since I got "The Weird" by Ann & Jeff VanderMeer, I discovered I like reading a lot of it at once instead of bits and pieces I stumble across. Are there any anthologies anyone can recommend?

Nearly every author in that anthology has an individual anthology of their stories out or has novel length books. Anything by Michael Cisco is going to be pretty dense on the weird.

The VanderMeers have edited or published (as Cheeky Frawg Books ) various anthologies or novels of weird fiction. The Thackery T Lambstead collections are pretty good.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

sephiRoth IRA posted:

Sorry wrong thread...

If anyone has a good mystery, less Agatha Christie more zodiac, I'll take it

lol The Tokyo Zodiac Murders

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Senjuro posted:

Any hard sci-fi books that heavily focus on the technical details as much as The Martian and Project Hail Mary? Preferably from this century. Closest I've read are Aurora and Blindsight. Seveneves was pretty good until the focus started to shift towards politics past the half way mark.

You're not really going to find this at novel length works (unsurprisingly it's hard to maintain at length!).

Check out Greg Egan's work both long and short (which is often called impenetrably technical).

The Year's Top Hard Science Fiction Stories series might work for you.

Timescape by Gregory Benford is very technical.

Ted Chiang's stories often focus on achieving engineering feats particularly "Tower of Babylon" and "Exhalation".

The MicroCosmic God by Theodore Sturgeon is the original engineering porn story but it's all essentially fantastical.

It's not science fiction per se but Radiance by Carter Scholz is about the inner workings of weapons R&D in the American military industrial complex. The book's really good. It's up in its entirety with footnotes here: https://www.gwern.net/docs/radiance/2002-scholz-radiance

Also, shut up about this century, you're closing off a vast realm of good and great poo poo for recency bias and most of the stuff I've mentioned comes from the 20th.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

FPyat posted:

Other than Notes from Underground and Crime and Punishment, I want books about misanthropes, that transfix me with how strongly and convincingly the main characters express their disdain for other people.

Literally just read through the Stop Being A Child thread and you'll find tonnes of recs

Celine has already been mentioned, but there's William Gaddis, William Gass, Mishima, Thomas Bernhard etc etc etc.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Senjuro posted:

Anything similar in tone and content to Netflix's Castlevania? Dark, medieval, high fantasy with vampires as major characters or even protagonists.

Kim Newman's Anno Dracula books might be worth looking into, but they're not really high fantasy and they're of very varying quality.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

PRADA SLUT posted:

I liked Le Guin's The Left Hand of Darkness and Lathe of Heaven (I also liked the weirdness in Lathe of Heaven). Anything else worth reading from her?

There's no bad Le Guin, just stuff that doesn't work for various people.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
It's old and more a curiosity than anything else but famed gonzo Sci-Fi writer Cordwainer Smith wrote a book on Psychological Warfare as part of his day job

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/48612

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Heavy Metal posted:

So I came to ask, any really accessible fun to read space opera adventures? I give it that preamble since a lot of the sci-fi section to me looks a bit inaccessible for my taste, at least at the moment. I enjoy that show The Expanse, but even that book series for example looks a little bit too dry for me at the moment. When I hear space opera, I get the idea that there are a lot of cool fun books out there which might appeal to me. Since I love Mobile Suit Gundam, Star Wars, Captain Harlock, dig Firefly, love Cowboy Bebop, Wrath of Khan, Irresponsible Captain Tylor etc. But when I read the preview pages for most books with spaceships, I'm not finding that kind of fun page-turner for me.

For writing style I'm drawn to stuff like Elmore Leonard as mentioned, and for sci-fi I really love that Harry Harrison Stainless Steel Rat is Born book from the 80s, and intend to check out the rest of that series sometime. My guess is I'm probably looking for a space opera that is from 1980s or newer, influenced by Star Wars probably.

Also a side question, any books that capture that vibe of the Space Quest games? So looking for both swashbuckling epics and some nutty comedy adventures, or some mix of the two.

Honestly, your best bet is in the EU licensed fiction of tv and movie sci-fi. But if you want mainline science fiction recommendations, here's a few.

Much of Sci-Fi swashbuckling also happens under the term Planetary Romance, where there's not much space travel but plenty of incident. Burroughs is the obvious answer here but also check out Leigh Brackett (she wrote the Empire Strikes Back) and C.L. Moore.

The works that inspired the phrase "Space Opera" and much space opera anime is E.E. Doc Smith's work. If you like insane solar system destruction anime escalation these set the template. Very very dated though.

Jack Vance's Demon Princes series and Planet of Adventure series are both great and should fit your requirements. Especially the Demon Princes series as they're essentially a collection of loosely connected revenge heist stories.

Matthew Hughes' Archonate series which ups the swashbuckling in a Jack Vance inspired universe.

Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorksogian sequence is very approachable.

Edwin Charles Tubb might be worth checking out.

Ian M. Banks varies on the amount of swashbuckling but his work is usually pretty fun to read.

David Zindell's Neverness

Walter Jon Williams has a number of good swashbucklers but check out the Maijstral series.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Heavy Metal posted:

Appreciated! On the licensed books thing, do you have any that you particularly like and recommend? I haven't been too interested in that so far, just mentioned titles from other mediums to kinda show some stuff I enjoy in the genre.

I don't read much but Dan Abnett's Warhammer work is great (and honestly check out his comics work (the Annihilation mini-series from Marvel are a good place to start) it's almost exactly what you want, Al Ewing too)

The two dedicated threads should help more:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3494493

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3951863

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

MockingQuantum posted:

I'm going on vacation shortly, and my partner is looking for some book recommendations for lighter vacation reads. She wants something centered on heists or charismatic conmen (conpeople?), ideally nothing too heavy or dark. She loved Lies of Locke Lamora but is a little burnt out on sci-fi and fantasy, so something realistic and ideally relatively modern would be best. She also loves the shows Leverage and Better Call Saul, and the movies Catch Me If You Can and The Sting so something along those lines tonally would probably be great.

Donald Westlake wrote a ton of these, the creator of Leverage was a big fan of his. The Dortmunder series is precisely light hearted heists. Drowned Hopes is probably the best one. But every one after that is very readable as well.

Elmore Leonard is great for that Better Call Saul vibe.

Lawrence Block can be very light especially his Bernie Rhodenbarr books (although they're more murder mysteries featuring a burglar) and the John Keller series.

Thick as Thieves by Spiegelman should be good as well.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

CaptainCrunch posted:

Another request, if you will. Since we're getting close to October, I've been hankering for a style of horror novel I don't think I've seen in a while. Something along the lines of IT, or Summer of Night by Dan Simmons, or Stinger by Robert McCammon. Stranger Things also is in this vein.

Small town, usually out in the middle of nowhere, is beset by some supernatural or alien threat. Naturally there's the plucky kids who figure it out while the grown-ups are clueless if not outright interfering with handling whatever it is.

I feel like I used to read a lot of books like that back in the day, but other than the 3 I mentioned I can't bring any to mind. Not sure if it's a distinct sub-genre or just something my brain latched onto.

I'd appreciate any recommendations, with an emphasis on non King books as I'm a bit done with his works.

It's not horror but you might enjoy Brittle Innings

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Tea Bone posted:

I'm loooking to re-live my first time reading through A Song of Ice and Fire (particularly the first three books), something to really sink my teeth into. I read a comparisson of ASOIAF and Tolkein saying Tolkein's world has depth (as in a lot of intricate history and languages etc) where as ASOIF has bredth (lots of moving parts and things happening at the same time, but not historically rich), so with that I'm looking for something with more bredth if that makes sense? Something with a lot of intrigue, strategic politics, backstabbing etc. Doesn't necissarily have to be fantasy, but preferably low magic if it is.

Dune and the Storm Light Archieves tend to get brought up a lot in this category, both of which I've already read.

A Dragon Waiting by John M For was very influential on GoT and will hit the mark most accurately. Aspects is pretty good as well but unfinished.

Anything by CJ Cheryh

Ken Liu's The Dandelion Dynasty, James S. A. Corey's work (they worked with GRRM for a long time), Daniel Abraham's Long Price and The Dagger and Coin series, Steven Brust's Taltos series, Paul Park's Starbrige Chronicles.

Dorothy Dunnet's Lymond chronicles.

Bilirubin posted:

I only read Dancing Aztecs and really enjoyed it a lot, not sure why I didn't keep reading in his oeuvre as they are funny and breezy

Dancing Aztecs is great but I don't typically recommend it because it has some problematic racial depictions.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

regulargonzalez posted:

I'm looking for non-Lovecraft cosmic horror that is available on Audible por favor

The Hungry Moon by Ramsey Campbell

The Cipher by Kathe Koja

The Ceremonies by T.E.D Klein

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

regulargonzalez posted:

Thanks! Are these listed in order of your rankings of them?

Nah, they're just good stuff but YMMV

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ovenboy posted:

My book club will be looking for a detective novel soon and, being scandinavian, the market is pretty saturated in nordic noir which I am not too interested in. I've read and enjoyed some Agatha Christie and Arthur Conan Doyle, but besides that I remember Kiln People, A Study in Emerald, the Watch books by Pratchett, and recently The Wolf and the Watchman.
Any recommendations for detective novels with more unusual premises, settings, or genres than the mainstream stuff (or really interesting mainstream stuff!)?

Peter Dickinson specialised in these. Hindsight and Sleep and His Brother are the ones most recommended.

Avram Davidson's The Adventures of Doctor Eszterhazy is unlike anything else.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ScienceSeagull posted:

What are some good collections of microfiction, flash fiction or short-short stories? I'm not totally clear on the cutoff points for those terms, but I mean like a page maximum in length, maybe only a few sentences. I'm especially interested in fantasy, horror, and weird fiction in this format.

The Collected Stories of Lydia Davis

https://www.amazon.com.au/Collected-Stories-Lydia-Davis/dp/0241969131

For sci-fi check out Terry Bisson

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Mordiceius posted:

Looking for a book recommendation for my wife -

Her favorite film has always been The Godfather (no, do not just recommend she reads the Godfather books). Over the last few years, we've been working through the Yakuza game series and she absolutely loves it.

She likes the crime family aspect, but she especially likes the tragic stories about interpersonal relationships and people manipulating each other for power.

Anyone have any recommendations for books that have a similar vibe?

EDIT: Also - no true crime stuff. She's only interested in fiction.

The Accursed Kings by Maurice Druon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accursed_Kings

I, Claudius by Robert Graves

She'd probably like Michael McDowel's books, especially Gilded Needles and The Blackwater Saga

Bellefleur and My Heart Laid Bare by Joyce Carol Oates

Oh, if she really wants something to chew on there's Les Rougon-Macquart by Emile Zola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Rougon-Macquart not every book is about a criminal but there's a streak of criminality in the family and it contains several of the great French tragic novels.

It's not a crime family drama but it is Japanese, Six Four by Hideo Yokoyama

The most Yakuza like fiction is on film unfortunately, but she should check out the Battles Without Honor and Humanity series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_Without_Honor_and_Humanity and Kitano's Yakuza films

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

regulargonzalez posted:

Looking for novels set in the intelligence community but not spy stuff or Jack Ryan per se, more the diplomat / ambassador / handler level stuff. Something like Count Fenring in Dune, or Laird Barron's story The Siphon, except not fantasy or horror. Thanks!

Le Carre has a bunch of novels about handlers and diplomats

The Antrobus stories by Lawrence Durrell

The Slow Horses series which is mainly focused on data analysts being asked to become proper spies

Rubicon was a great tv series about data analysts

edit: oh poo poo I forgot The Sandbaggers is probably the greatest intelligence community television series, there's a conspiracy theory that the writer was killed for leaking state secrets through the show. Anyway, it's primarily about the handlers having to deal with the fact that their ultra-component spies are a very rare commodity that wear down and get killed and have to be saved for the most important missions only.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

SEX HAVER 40000 posted:

maybe a longshot: anybody have recommendations for books on film theory? could be analyzing a specific work, or going through a movement, or just an introduction to the topic, whatever you've got. i just want to learn to read movies better

David Bordwell and Kitstin Thompson's books and blog are a good starting point for understanding how film technique, technology, and form shape our experiences watching.

http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

PupsOfWar posted:

This is gonna be weird but does anyone have reccs for Choose Your Own Adventure style books or gamebooks of similar stripe?

My niece is falling far behind her grade level w/ reading, we think largely due to ADHD. She does fine at other school subjects, but that won't last if she can't read texts. Have tried all the regular childrens' lit I figure would suit her interests (animal lover, loosely tomboyish, horse girl adjacent). Have tried Warrior Cats, Redwall, Dinotopia, more or less everything with critters in it.

I am wondering if some sort of interactive story might alleviate the attention span issues and get the reading bug to kick in.

She's 11, so maybe a little too old for the original CYOA series. Is there anything similar that suits tween readers?

First things first, have you tried comics/manga? They're very very approachable, there's a huge list of them appropriate for all ages and genders and the Shonen Jump app for example has a very cheap subscription for basically unlimited amounts of exciting comics suitable for kids in their teens.

Game books are a passion of mine and the bad news is that they basically died in the 90s and were almost exclusively marketed towards boys.

Mainline CYOA books that have been reissued might still be attractive at 11. They certainly have the widest of topics (although boy skewing)

You can look at the big list here for recent stuff but it's pretty dire in terms of targetting the kid your describing:
https://gamebooks.org/Items/ByYear

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Anno posted:

I’ve been out of the fantasy novel game since book two of the Stormlight Archive (so….2014?) but want to get back in. Sanderson stuff aside, any suggestions on books that have come out since then? Especially if they’re of the “epic fantasy” series sort.

Graydon Saunder's Commonweal books are very popular here.

There's a thread:
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4006013

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Good-Natured Filth posted:

I'm looking for a recommendation for my wife. What she reads today is mostly autobiographies or self-help / self-help-adjacent books, but she wants to try to get back into fiction. The last fiction series she read and really enjoyed was Harry Potter nearly two decades ago. So this may be a challenge.

Based on her likes / dislikes, I think a light-hearted romcom in a magical setting would be a good bet. Or maybe a high-level mystery / thriller where the stakes aren't too high. If it gets too in-the-weeds, serious, or grim-dark fantasy, she'll bounce off. I don't think she'd be opposed to YA, but she did express wanting to try adult fiction.

Has she read Terry Pratchett? She might like the Tiffany Aching series especially.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

deep dish peat moss posted:

Hey TBB, can anyone point me in the direction of any notable fiction books that are almost exclusively world-building, instead of character-focused stories?

Here's a few off the top my head:

Dunsany's Gods of Pegana

Austin Tappan Wright's Islandia

Olaf Stapledon's Last and First Men and Star Maker

Jean D'Ormesson's The Glory of the Empire

Milorad Pavić's Dictionary of the Khazars

Ursula Le Guin's Always Coming Home

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

PRADA SLUT posted:

Can someone rec me a “comedy of errors” genre book?

If you've not read Wodehouse that's the rec, read all of Wodehouse. Past Wodehouse, there's Donald Westlake's comedic novels especially the Dortmunder books.

Depending on your taste you might like Connie Willis' Oxford Time Travel books.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

SEX HAVER 40000 posted:

i just finished both Silence and Fires on the Plain, and Canticle for Leibowitz and The Book of the New Sun are two of my all time favorite novels. what are some similarly unique/complex/outsider works on catholicism? i've been trudging through The Name of the Rose for what feels like years now, but i crave more

Hyperion by Dan Simmons (although it's much less authentically Catholic than the other recommendations)

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
If you like Tom Holt you'll love K J Parker (a lot of his work is focused on professionals being good at their profession)

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Selachian posted:

Donald Westlake, too.

Donald Westlake's the king (although he's funnier when he's meaner writing as Richard Stark and his non-comedy books, The Ax is very funny for example)

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ScienceSeagull posted:

I'm interested in stories that deal with infinity, eternity, and related concepts -- truly enormous expanses of time and space, or huge numbers more generally. Such as Borges' Library of Babel, and Steven Peck's Short Stay in Hell (which is based on the Borges story).

Check out:

Olaf Stapeldon

Stephen Baxter

Alistair Reynolds (especially House of Suns)

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Smiling Knight posted:

Hello thread,

Noire-y mysteries with a focus on bureaucracy/the system (Six Four, All She Was Worth)?

Have you read Last Seen Wearing.. by Hillary Waugh or the Martin Beck books?

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Smiling Knight posted:

Will be reading while traveling, so nothing too too cerebral.


tuyop posted:

Oh and a shorter rec: The Fifth Head of Cerberus by Gene Wolfe

I know the OP said they enjoy Gene Wolfe but lmao

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

What's a good starting point for the Philip K Dick bibliography? Something a little more narratively clear than I think he's know for. I'm kind of dumb. But not Man in the High Castle, I'm looking for sci fi.

Is Ubik a possibility? Or is that one not really for beginners?

His short stories are probably the best place to start for clarity, get one of the collections.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

sbaldrick posted:

So I’m really tired of the grim dark, rapey turn fantasy has taken recently (GRRM, Abercrombie, the Malazan books, I’m currently reading the most recent Kagen book and if he talks about rape in the creepy way he has again I’m going to throw my phone across the room).

What are some good less creepy fantasy novels, assuming I’ve read most of the major stuff.

Michael Bishop's Brittle Innings about Frankenstein's Monster playing Minor League baseball in the post-war south.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ahobday posted:

Does anyone have any recommendations for books about a person who takes over as the ruler of a place, and does a good job? I don't really mind if it's historical, fantasy, science fiction, or any other genre, but I'd prefer it be a fictional story.

"Place" could be a country, a city, a space station, an army, whatever. But I think it'll be satisfying to read about someone getting something into good working order, along with any political savviness they have to use to make it happen.

Lyndon B. Johnson biographical series, The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro, is occasionally great for this because as terrible as LBJ often was, his entire method of politics got poo poo done. There's genuinely thrilling moments of good governance in there.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004
Charles Palliser's The Quincunx is a massive Dickensian puzzle novel that has a strong cult following. Particularly because as wikipedia says, "Many of the puzzles that are apparently solved in the story have an alternative solution in the subtext"

He also wrote Betrayals which is a big meta book of many different stories, maybe there's a puzzle here, maybe there's not I didn't enjoy it all that much.

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fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

ScienceSeagull posted:

What are some books like Einstein's Dreams or Invisible Cities? Short stories exploring weird alternate worlds or thought experiments.

Greg Egan's work

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