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Here's a screenshot in case someone was wondering how to use this thing First, route the MIDI OUT track to whatever you want and set that track to in. (I have it routed to an example MIDI IN track here with no instrument on it.) Click the key you want, then hold the chord you want, I have them set to gate so you've got to hold the chord until the next bar starts. If anyone finds a better way to trigger these let me know so I can try it out. EDIT: link since this got pushed to a new page http://sharktopus.com/live/CHORD_TRIGGERS_live8.als
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Meaty Potato posted:I seem to remember that there is a way to get around that with them. Let me see if I can figure out how to do it.. maybe they took that feature away. If you actually follow up on this you will have exceeded all expectations that I hold for internet strangers.
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I just wrote a tutorial on Audio Effect Racks. Comments are welcome.
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h_double posted:I just wrote a tutorial on Audio Effect Racks. Here is a nice tutorial with racks and the apc 40 combined with vst controls, its sweet. Another reason why Live8 eats Live7s little bo peep.
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Jul 8, 2009 23:50
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What's the best way to get the old school analog vocoder freestyle robot voice in software? I can't really do it with Ableton's vocoder but I might be doing it wrong and/or not know some tricks that would make it sound better? Ideally it'd be with everything built into Ableton but I'm flexible.
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Jul 8, 2009 23:58
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stun runner posted:What's the best way to get the old school analog vocoder freestyle robot voice in software? Buy this or this. quote:I can't really do it with Ableton's vocoder Closest I could get was this. If that's good enough for you, I'll upload the set.
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Jul 9, 2009 23:19
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I love you yoozer. I love yoo yoozer. But yeah, I'm looking for something as close to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfXKkNo7YZ8 as possible. I couldn't do it with the abletron vocoder, I'll give the demos of those two a shot, thanks for the recommendations. Any specific tips would be cool if you know 'em off the top of your head too.
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Jul 9, 2009 23:28
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No tips but vocoding is way tough unless you just have a legit synth with microphone setup :\
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stun runner posted:Any specific tips would be cool if you know 'em off the top of your head too. Condition the input signal. This isn't done by checking "Enhance" in the Ableton vocoder, but by putting a compressor over the vocals to reduce dynamic range and before the compressor, an EQ to cut away the frequencies you're not going to use anyway. A somewhat decent (hardware) vocoder has stuff like this already built in, but it never hurts to do anyway. Experiment with the number of bands. More bands = more fidelity, but may remove the grainy character you're looking for. Use a good, harmonically rich carrier signal. 2 oscillators, both saw, no filters. Even better if you can brighten that up a bit with distortion. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Vocoders have a certain character based on how the bands are chosen. If all else fails, simply get a different machine or piece of software to do the job for you. I can not entirely agree with Terrible Horse: various virtual analog synths have a vocoder tacked on as an effect, but it doesn't mean they all sound awesome. The Virus' vocoder is pretty tame, the one in the Micromodular is hailed as awesome and cheap, but the software I've linked to sounds pretty stellar and would probably do a better job than either. Something I have to experiment with: consider using an effects rack with EQs used as a crossover filter and a vocoder per filter. Treat the high frequencies with a different vocoder (with the same input signal but perhaps with a different number of bands).
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Jul 10, 2009 07:32
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There is also a little box in the bottom of ableton's vocoder that says 'Precise' that when you click it it turns to 'Retro' which adds a little more funk, but you may have tried that.
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Jul 10, 2009 14:18
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I use Robotronic as my vocoder. It has a built compressor and has a great sound quality. Virsyn's vocoder rocks also. I use robotronic daily in band practice and it rules. I vocode my guitar a lot.
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Jul 10, 2009 17:59
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I have a Drum Rack loaded up and a pattern entered, but I want to put an effect on the hats only, not the rest. How can I do this? In Reason I'd just patch redrum's individual channels into an effects box or use one of the sends, but I can't figure out how to do it in Ableton. I've tried messing with chains but I can never seem to route the output correctly or I effect the entire drum kit rather than the individual drums. Do I have to load the drum up on an individual Impulse/Simpler pattern and do it that way?
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Jul 11, 2009 16:44
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Each sample on the drums should have its own little chain right?
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Jul 11, 2009 17:43
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Three Red Lights posted:Each sample on the drums should have its own little chain right?
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 See where I've put the ping-pong delay? All I did was double click the snare drum so its Sampler shows up and drag it right after it. If you look closely it's still inside the Drum Rack, not after it. If you put the effect after the entire Rack it will affect all the samples. Plavski posted:Do I have to load the drum up on an individual Impulse/Simpler pattern and do it that way? All a Drum Rack is is a bunch of individual Samplers in an easier to use interface. Plastic Snake fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 11, 2009 |
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Jul 11, 2009 20:13
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Plastic Snake posted:
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I can't get ableton 8 to assign midi maps. I highlight the control and turn the knob but it won't record the control change. Yet the yellow light in the corner flashes. What am I doing wrong???
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Jul 16, 2009 02:44
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never mind you have to set up yourt controller as a remote as well as a track changer thingy
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I've been using Live 8 for about a month and I absolutely love it. I have a question about automation though. If I'm recording with arrangement view and triggering clips in session view. I have my effects going to the master, I'm using stuff like beat repeat and filters. After i finished random "on and off" triggering of effects and exporting my audio it just turned on all of my effects and added them to the final mixdown. Am I able to record automations that way or is there a better solution to what I'm trying to do. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm still new to it.
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EMUpirate posted:I've been using Live 8 for about a month and I absolutely love it. I have a question about automation though. If I'm recording with arrangement view and triggering clips in session view. I have my effects going to the master, I'm using stuff like beat repeat and filters. After i finished random "on and off" triggering of effects and exporting my audio it just turned on all of my effects and added them to the final mixdown. Am I able to record automations that way or is there a better solution to what I'm trying to do. Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I'm still new to it.
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Yeah, it's probably a problem with the automation you've recorded. It's kind of hard to diagnose without knowing a little more but double check the recorded automation tracks to make sure nothing weird is going on with them.
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stun runner posted:Yeah, it's probably a problem with the automation you've recorded. It's kind of hard to diagnose without knowing a little more but double check the recorded automation tracks to make sure nothing weird is going on with them. Yea, it's working correctly now, today was really the first day I'd played with automation. Sorry I didn't word it more clearly, I wasn't even sure how to word it. I was using like 4 different effects in the master effect box, playing with them while triggering stuff in session view. For some reason the MIDI automation track never started.
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EMUpirate posted:Yea, it's working correctly now, today was really the first day I'd played with automation. Sorry I didn't word it more clearly, I wasn't even sure how to word it. I was using like 4 different effects in the master effect box, playing with them while triggering stuff in session view. For some reason the MIDI automation track never started.
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i just got a midi footpedal and let me tell you boys holy poo poo its awesome. i had to use midistroke(free midi to keystroke for mac) and i set it all up and its unbelievable. i highly recommend looking into a midi to keystroke program it really opens up ableton in a way just midi cant. For something like mpd's or other midi controlers its amazing. i cant believe i didnt use something like this for the first couple of years i used live.
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oredun posted:i just got a midi footpedal and let me tell you boys holy poo poo its awesome. i had to use midistroke(free midi to keystroke for mac) and i set it all up and its unbelievable. i highly recommend looking into a midi to keystroke program it really opens up ableton in a way just midi cant. For something like mpd's or other midi controlers its amazing. i cant believe i didnt use something like this for the first couple of years i used live.
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Plavski posted:Are you using it with Looper? Cos the videos I've seen of people doing that are just mindblowing. looper can be used with just a sustain pedal and it works great(i was a beta tester, but i dont have money to upgrade, talk about blue balls). i have 7 so i dont have looper and i wanted to loop and control my set while i played a bass. the keystroke converter is a muthafuckin magic bullet. now i use the keystroke with my MPD and i can control everything in the set without touching the computer, its great.
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Under the Midi Ports in options can someone explain what Track and Sync are used for? I understand remote, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to have all 3 active for my controllers. Got my automation problem taken care of btw, thanks a bunch.
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Sync sends that pulse/heartbeat to keep slaved midi instruments to the same bpm. Or, you could have Ableton by slaved to that device.
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EMUpirate posted:Under the Midi Ports in options can someone explain what Track and Sync are used for? I understand remote, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to have all 3 active for my controllers. Got my automation problem taken care of btw, thanks a bunch. "Track" is to transmit MIDI notes (you usually want this on, although there are cases (like if you were playing an external synth that was producing its own local sound) where you might want to turn it off in one direction). "Sync" is to allow Live to act as a MIDI Clock master/slave or a MIDI Timecode slave to sync with an external sequencer, drum machine, etc. See http://www.tweakheadz.com/sync_mmc_mtc_smpte.htm for a general conceptual overview, but you shouldn't need this unless you have some other hardware device operating on its own clock. "Remote" is to allow the MIDI device to control the automatable elements of Live's UI. h_double fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jul 24, 2009 |
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I'm pretty sure this is a question I'm going to get laughed at for asking, but hey, gotta start somewhere... For some reason, any time I export a song to a wav, it absolutely crushes my low end. The kick drum all but disappears. Am I missing some trick to this or do I just have to compress the gently caress out of them and boost the gain through the roof? Listening to a song in Ableton sounds fine, but listening to the exported wav sounds like total poo poo 
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MrTheDevious posted:I'm pretty sure this is a question I'm going to get laughed at for asking, but hey, gotta start somewhere... Sounds like there's a problem with the export - it should just sound as it does in ableton. Don't start compressing stuff for the sake of it...
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Lewk posted:Sounds like there's a problem with the export - it should just sound as it does in ableton. Don't start compressing stuff for the sake of it... That's what keeps confusing me. I've tried drat near everything and nothing works except compressing and boosting the gain, and then it sounds like lovely pop music
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Try putting a highpass EQ at 80 Hz on every channel you have sampled percussion, effects or loops on for starters. Transposing a sampled loop up may introduce mud. edit: forget it, just EQ everything, cut away bits you don't need/hear. Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Aug 5, 2009 |
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Just got my APC in today, it's so pretty! Can't wait to get to grips with it. Anyone know when Max for Live is coming out? I saw a video of how it's supposed to interface with Live and the APC and I'm virtually wetting myself with excitement.
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duggimon posted:Just got my APC in today, it's so pretty! Can't wait to get to grips with it. I use a BCR2000 with some awesome custom presets so I have a crazy amount of easily accessible control over everything in ableton. Are there any Maschine users in here? Any more APC folks?
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I've had an APC on order for months When everything's done I'm gonna use the APC, a Trigger Finger, and the third kaoss pad to control live.
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APC here and I loving love it. I'm in a psychedelic rock band though, and my brother is some kind of savant(edit, was kind of joking, not trying to come off pompous; but he's unnaturally good at music, and can't read/write/theorize, but can play anything he hears and jam on anyones poo poo), but he can't play keys and guitar at the same time. So we'll capture his keys and I'll play em with the APC while I sing. When I get better at ableton I imagine I'll get into some really funky psychedelic jams utilizing effects and maximizing the APC's potential, but for now I just capture/load/play clips my brother makes. RizieN fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Aug 4, 2009 |
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MrTheDevious posted:That's what keeps confusing me. I've tried drat near everything and nothing works except compressing and boosting the gain, and then it sounds like lovely pop music What do you have loaded up on your master channel and how's your master volume meter looking? Does it dance, or just sit on the 0db mark more or less constantly, or go into the red? Also make sure you export 24bit and not normalized.
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For anyone who is wanting to get an APC, I'd suggest calling up any shops you have around first. I called my local Guitar Center and they had 2 in stock, so I picked one up today before half the websites out there were even allowing orders again. The clerk told me they weren't selling out super fast or anything. I love it! It's so nice to have actual controls instead of having to sit down and mix everything with a mouse. I'm not sure how much I'll really utilize the performance aspect of it since I use Ableton to record rock songs, but there is a huge amount of control that I've been missing. Only complaint so far is that it is not liking songs I already mixed down in 8 before I purchased it. I'll arrow between devices but the knobs will continue to control the first device. Trying to shift between controls in a device causes the APC40 to freeze and become unresponsive, requiring a reboot of Ableton. Works like a dream on anything new I put together, however.
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MrTheDevious posted:That's what keeps confusing me. I've tried drat near everything and nothing works except compressing and boosting the gain, and then it sounds like lovely pop music Are you on Live 8? If you want you could upload it, or a portion of it, and i'll try and do an export, that way we'll know if it's your computer or the project file. It's sort of difficult to tell without having a look.
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