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Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
I have a dev license. We could work on the project together if you would like.

I kind of threw my eggs into the Shopp Basket because I figured they were the best e-commerce solution for WordPress and I wanted to support them early on. They have a nice interface.

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musclecoder
Oct 23, 2006

I'm all about meeting girls. I'm all about meeting guys.

Ned posted:

I have a dev license. We could work on the project together if you would like.

I kind of threw my eggs into the Shopp Basket because I figured they were the best e-commerce solution for WordPress and I wanted to support them early on. They have a nice interface.

Cool, I'll hit you up on AIM later today when I get back to my office.

hmm yes
Dec 2, 2000
College Slice
With that many products and transactions, why are you wanting to use a WordPress plugin instead of a dedicated ecommerce application? You'll get much more out of something like Chromium Cart--and you won't have WordPress crushing your willpower because you tried to make it do something it wasn't intended to do.

musclecoder
Oct 23, 2006

I'm all about meeting girls. I'm all about meeting guys.

atastypie posted:

With that many products and transactions, why are you wanting to use a WordPress plugin instead of a dedicated ecommerce application? You'll get much more out of something like Chromium Cart--and you won't have WordPress crushing your willpower because you tried to make it do something it wasn't intended to do.

Well, thats exactly the feedback I was looking for. I wasn't sure how Shopp was set up, so if it can't handle something like that, I'll look into Chromium.

This, http://demo.chromiumcart.com/, however, doesn't get me excited. I'll install it and see how it goes until I'm done with my own solution.

Edit: So far this is really nice, thanks for it. Although its still PHP4, at least the code is (somewhat) clean and they actually use PHP as a templating language in the templates, so it looks promising. Thanks!

musclecoder fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Oct 26, 2009

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
I have a subdomain where I am upgrading WordPress and Shopp. I'll let you guys have access to it if you want to play around.

hmm yes
Dec 2, 2000
College Slice
I wouldn't want to give the impression that Shopp couldn't handle it, because I'm sure it could. I only wanted to know what your reason for using a plugin was :) Even "because I know WordPress and don't want to spend time learning something else" is probably a good enough reason.

musclecoder
Oct 23, 2006

I'm all about meeting girls. I'm all about meeting guys.

atastypie posted:

I wouldn't want to give the impression that Shopp couldn't handle it, because I'm sure it could. I only wanted to know what your reason for using a plugin was :) Even "because I know WordPress and don't want to spend time learning something else" is probably a good enough reason.

Gotcha. I guess my reason was so that I could also have a blog on the site as well so we could promote our products and do normal blogging things without having to install Wordpress outside of the shopping cart.

Edit: It also looks like OpenCart - http://opencart.com is a PHP5 version of ChromiumCart. Alright, thread hijack over, back to Wordpress discussion.

musclecoder fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Oct 26, 2009

micropenis
Jul 19, 2004
An '04 Mac user from the UK. What's worse?

musclecoder posted:

I'm more familiar with ExpressionEngine than I am Wordpress, even though I like Wordpress a lot more because EE is pretty bad (my blog - http://leftnode.com/blog).

Can I ask why you think ExpressionEngine is bad? Not attacking, I'm just interested to hear someone talk about EE and not be all "best CMS ever" about it.

musclecoder
Oct 23, 2006

I'm all about meeting girls. I'm all about meeting guys.

Braggot posted:

Can I ask why you think ExpressionEngine is bad? Not attacking, I'm just interested to hear someone talk about EE and not be all "best CMS ever" about it.

Sure. I guess "bad" is the wrong word, as it certainly accomplishes its purpose, but it could definitely use some work. I've been working on a better eCommerce plugin for it over the past two weeks, and these are some of the things I've noticed.

  1. Still PHP4 based. I hate seeing var's littered everywhere, no __construct()'s, and no public/private keywords.

  2. Templates are fundamentally wrong. The templates call the specific method in each module (basically a controller) instead of the other way around. Thus, if you want to build a template incrementally, or slice up a HTML page into small sub-templates, its very hard. {exp:module:method_name var1="value1" var2="value2"}{/exp:module:method_name} seems like a pretty backwards way to call a specific method of a class.

  3. They defeat the entire purpose of templates by forcing you to repeat templated HTML/CSS. For example, you want the same header HTML on each page of your site? Each new template needs that code repeated (unless you had a {exp:module:method_name} call to return that HTML, but thats a pain too).

  4. I dislike programs that try to re-invent the PHP-as-a-templating-language wheel. PHP already handles this beautifully and fastly:
    php:
    <?php foreach ( $list as $item ): ?>
       <div class="some_class"><?php echo $item->getName(); ?></div>
    <?php endforeach; ?>
    
    Looks great to me, and is much, much better than some Smarty knockoff or however people like to re-implement that in their code. Seeing {if} {/if} blocks is annoying and slow. Why have the overhead of parsing all of that when PHP will do all of that for you already, natively? See http://php.net/alternative_syntax if you're not already familiar with this, but I love it. It's expressive, fast, and just feels right.

  5. If you're going to write your own database, wrapper, fine, but who would ever have a SELECT query return all of the records to an internal array in the class? What if the query returned thousands of rows, now you have to store all of that in memory! That's ridiculous, use a PHP5 iterator (see my blog post - http://leftnode.com/blog/2009/09/php5-database-iterators/ about using database iterators, its so much faster and easier than reading every row into memory).

  6. The formatting of the code is absolutely horrible. They should be embarrassed to release that code as professional software. I'm a stickler for formatting (I don't care about what formatting method you choose, just be consistent), and their's looks like your typical lovely PHP code just thrown together. Sometimes its spaces, sometimes its tabs, sometimes there's whitespace randomly at the end of a line, sometimes {'s are on the same line, sometimes on the next line. Very little meaningful commenting. I think the way you format your code says a lot about you as a programmer, and the formatting of their code doesn't say much.

Aturaten
Mar 23, 2008

by elpintogrande
Not to derail too much, but I've heard great things about Prestashop and Foxycart. Foxycart requires 15/mo after dev, however.

In terms of paid solutions, I have a friend that swears by Interspire and Shopify.

Also, musclecoder, still looking for an e-commerce template? If so, you know the email.

jackpot
Aug 31, 2004

First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<
On the last page someone asked for good book recommendations, I'm here to repeat that. I got sidetracked on the project I was going to start, but it's going to begin again soon, and I'm no further along and still totally loving lost when it comes to WP. I'm looking for a from-scratch, don't-know-poo poo book on WordPress. I'll be designing and building a user-editable site, with a members-only section, and I'm fairly worried that this job is probably just too big for me, for my first go around.

Anyway, books?

jackpot
Aug 31, 2004

First cousin to the Black Rabbit himself. Such was Woundwort's monument...and perhaps it would not have displeased him.<
And just out of curiosity - and I know this is a bit of a bullshit question, with lots of variables like location, etc - how much would you folks charge for a ~15 page site, easy for the owner to edit, password-protected member section, and (I imagine) a few other little goodies like a contact form, etc? Redesigned (and reorganizing of old content) from the ground up, the current site is total poo poo. Just ballpark it if you can, and if you really want to make me cry, take a guess at the hours you'd put into it.

You know, one option I may have with this is if I get a high enough quote - and I'm kinda shooting for the moon on this one - it might be easier and more efficient in the end for me to hire someone for the bits and pieces that I can't figure out fast enough. Does that seem feasible, or is the kind of help I'm looking for so expensive that it wouldn't be worth my while?

jackpot fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Nov 4, 2009

supster
Sep 26, 2003

I'M TOO FUCKING STUPID
TO READ A SIMPLE GRAPH

jackpot posted:

And just out of curiosity - and I know this is a bit of a bullshit question, with lots of variables like location, etc - how much would you folks charge for a ~15 page site, easy for the owner to edit, password-protected member section, and (I imagine) a few other little goodies like a contact form, etc? Redesigned (and reorganizing of old content) from the ground up, the current site is total poo poo. Just ballpark it if you can, and if you really want to make me cry, take a guess at the hours you'd put into it.
$1000-5000

musclecoder
Oct 23, 2006

I'm all about meeting girls. I'm all about meeting guys.

jackpot posted:

And just out of curiosity - and I know this is a bit of a bullshit question, with lots of variables like location, etc - how much would you folks charge for a ~15 page site, easy for the owner to edit, password-protected member section, and (I imagine) a few other little goodies like a contact form, etc? Redesigned (and reorganizing of old content) from the ground up, the current site is total poo poo. Just ballpark it if you can, and if you really want to make me cry, take a guess at the hours you'd put into it.

I assume since this is the Wordpress thread, you'd want it in Wordpress (which also has a CMS plugin, I believe).

That said, my company would charge $6000-$10000 depending on the design.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!
Low-to-mid thousands, depending on how complex the design/features are, how much work you want to put into the IA, if you need storyboards, how many design mockups, if you want illustrations/photography, if so, are you providing them, etc....

If you didn't want any of the web design process and just wanted a turnkey/quick-and-dirty wordpress site with an original design and a dozen random pages, then $1000 would probably do it.

Stick_Fig
Nov 21, 2002

I can write more if that doesn't disturb you enough.
Hey guys,

Asking here because my brain's absolutely fried and I can't figure out what's wrong through other sources. (Page after page of "I'm having this terrible problem!" "Me too!" is terribly disheartening.)

Anyway, I just redesigned my news site, ShortFormBlog (http://shortformblog.com/) and switched themes. For the last few weeks I had been regularly using the WP Theme Switcher plugin and hadn't had any major hiccups.

Well, about a day after putting it up, I ran into a hiccup: The RSS feed stopped working. Not just "oh crap, the feed's clogged." No. the feed comes up with a 404 error on the pages it's supposed to be using.

I don't think switching to the theme did it. It worked fine for nearly a day with the theme switcher plugin off.

I was playing with 404.php in the theme folder last night. But that shouldn't have done anything. And I made no other permalink format changes.

So I'm just confused. Any thoughts as to how this could happen?

EDIT: OK, I'm somewhere with it, but it's still not a great place. It appears that the default "/feed" URL is working. But getting alternate feeds, such as Atom and RSS (or comment feeds), is leading me to 404 pages. As a temporary solution, I set my default feed to "atom," but considering that the URL I generally use in Feedburner excludes certain posts, I'd like to fix it eventually. :(

Stick_Fig fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Nov 5, 2009

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I'm looking to redesign and repurpose a site of mine. Basically its primary focus is an event calendar for card game tournaments in my area, and as of right now I'm using Wordpress for the site. I love Wordpress's admin side (yay Ajax!) but it's somewhat lacking as a CMS. Right now I'm using the Event Calendar plugin for it, which is great, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what the best event calendar they've ever used is. Ideally I'd like something that let users type in their name and click a button to publicly "pre-register" for the event so people can get an idea of who's going, how many people are going, etc. Separate fields for things like entry fee, date, time, etc. would be nice too. I'm open to suggestions!

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

BJPaskoff posted:

I'm looking to redesign and repurpose a site of mine. Basically its primary focus is an event calendar for card game tournaments in my area, and as of right now I'm using Wordpress for the site. I love Wordpress's admin side (yay Ajax!) but it's somewhat lacking as a CMS. Right now I'm using the Event Calendar plugin for it, which is great, but I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to what the best event calendar they've ever used is. Ideally I'd like something that let users type in their name and click a button to publicly "pre-register" for the event so people can get an idea of who's going, how many people are going, etc. Separate fields for things like entry fee, date, time, etc. would be nice too. I'm open to suggestions!

I spent at least 20 hours looking at different event calendar plugins (and rolling my own) before I decided to just embed Google Calendar.

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
Yeah. The event plugins for Wordpress aren't really that great.

I'd use google calendar and then use wordpress meta fields to tie them together. You can output google calendar info as JSON and read it in with Wordpress very easily.

Anmitzcuaca
Nov 23, 2005

Stupid question, but how do I get a working "read more" link when using the_excerpt()?

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
just use the_permalink() or you use the_content() with the proper read more function. the_excerpt() doesn't use the read more stuff.

ProdigalSon
Sep 15, 2003
I'm trying to add a gradient background to my wordpress blog, which I assume is done through CSS? I'm trying to achieve such an effect: http://squampton.ca

Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm a novice but hopefully with some documentation I can figure it out. I'm using this theme: http://www.lightword-theme.com/

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
It is a css rule on the body

code:
body {
background:#000000 url(images/header4.jpg) no-repeat scroll center top;
}

kontona
May 3, 2003

Is there any way to make the "read more" link jump to the top of the page after you click it rather than jump to the spot of the "read more" link? Tried googling all the results seem outdated.

NotShadowStar
Sep 20, 2000
I just hit that the other day:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Customizing_the_Read_More#Link_Jumps_to_More_or_Top_of_Page

kontona
May 3, 2003


Thanks! Don't know why I didn't go to the obvious source.

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Two questions:

Here's my situation: I started a website a couple of weeks ago using WP (http://www.intensivepurposes.net). At the top of the page you'll notice I have a text banner. I'd like to change that into a .jpg graphic banner, but I can't seem to figure out how to do it.

Everything on the right side of the page (from the Twitter bird down) is controlled by sidebar.php.

There is a topbanner.php, but all it contains is

code:
<?php if(get_theme_option('topbanner') != '') {
	?>
	<div style="text-align: center; padding: 10px;">
		<?php echo(get_theme_option('topbanner')); ?>
	</div>
<?php } ?>
I'm trying to figure out:
1) What the dimensions of a graphic banner would be (to me it looks around 600x200)
2) Where I would insert the <img src=> HTML.

If it matters, I'm using the Modern Style Theme, which you can view/download at http://flexithemes.com

Thanks in advance!

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
code:
	<div style="text-align: center; padding: 10px;">
		<img src="/path/to/image.jpg" alt="banner" />
	</div>

quote:

I'm trying to figure out:
1) What the dimensions of a graphic banner would be (to me it looks around 600x200)
2) Where I would insert the <img src=> HTML.

Replace it with the code above. If you don't have the option set then that code won't run. This method will just stick an image there.

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Ned posted:

Replace it with the code above. If you don't have the option set then that code won't run. This method will just stick an image there.

I replaced the previous code in topbanner.php with your code and now it's putting the banner at the top of each post. Obviously this isn't quite what I was going for. I only want one banner.



I think the answer may lie in the fact that there is this image:

is scrolled across the banner, effectively making the text sit on top of the stretched background image. Does this sound right?

How do I replace that image with my own, without it stretching across the screen?

I'm sorry if my questions are rudimentary. =/

Xarthor fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Nov 18, 2009

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
Those are totally different things. You probably want to modify header.php and switch out the part where it has an h1 with an image.

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That did the trick. Thanks, Ned.

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
No problem. I went to WordCamp NYC this weekend and was very happy to talk about WordPress all weekend long.

Twiin
Nov 11, 2003

King of Suck!

Ned posted:

No problem. I went to WordCamp NYC this weekend and was very happy to talk about WordPress all weekend long.

I wanted to head to that, but we had too much going on at work to send anyone. Was it amazing?

I have a ton of WP code that I want to release and Matt wanted to see it for inclusion in the core beforehand, but he's pretty much impossible to get a hold of.

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
There were a ton of people there and lots of folks from the core team. Overall turnout was 700+. I spent most of my time talking with the guys behind cacoo.com.

Inverse Icarus
Dec 4, 2003

I run SyncRPG, and produce original, digital content for the Pathfinder RPG, designed from the ground up to be played online.
Figure this should be simple enough to do, but I'm having issues with it.

I want to use the Page system to link to custom PHP pages. That is, I'd like any PHP script of my choosing to appear in the main frame of theme just like any other page, use the same stylesheets, etc, but run completely custom code.

Simple example, I want to get a data set from a MySQL database, and create a table from it. I want this to appear like any other page, including being linked from the Page List itself.

Do I need a plugin for this, or is there some setting I'm missing?

supster
Sep 26, 2003

I'M TOO FUCKING STUPID
TO READ A SIMPLE GRAPH
You need to make a custom page template and put your code in there.

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
Yeah. Template file it up! Once you understand what template files can do you are going to love WordPress. Just include the header and footer as you normally would on index.php or page.php. Then you can run whatever PHP you like. You also have access to $wp_query and $post if you want to be able to control some text on the page.

$_GET will work as normal. Just pass through whatever. I use templates a lot to build simple AJAX APIs. I really like the way they work.

Mess with them a bit and let us know if you need more help.

Inverse Icarus
Dec 4, 2003

I run SyncRPG, and produce original, digital content for the Pathfinder RPG, designed from the ground up to be played online.
Thanks for that, I'm chugging along now with custom templated pages.

New question!

I intend to have a user table in my database that allows people to log in to do things with the website largely unrelated to WordPress. I've mentioned a few of them in my last post: administer / join games, configure email alerts, etc.

I see WordPress has such a table already, and figured I could just add some fields to it, or add a companion table that links to the WordPress user table through the ID.

By extending / linking to this table I can configure that only registered users can add comments, which is also awesome.

I played around with this, and I don't like that when people log in, even if their role is only subscriber, they go to the WP dash board. Even the neutered one they see, with no configuration changes and whatnot, I'd like to hide from them. It ruins the flow of the site to be taken to the Wordpress-style dashboard, and I'd rather not have people see the stats at all (like, 4 posts, 12 coments), even if they can't do anything about it.

How can I make it so users can log in, but never see a dashboard? I don't care if I have to copletely re-write the profile editing page, and honestly I'd probably have to anyway if I want to add custom fields.

Ned
May 23, 2002

by Hand Knit
You could use buddypress or take advantage of the get_user_option and update_user_option functions perhaps.

You might be able to put in a hook that makes sure those users don't see the dashboard. Or perhaps there is a plugin?

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Inverse Icarus
Dec 4, 2003

I run SyncRPG, and produce original, digital content for the Pathfinder RPG, designed from the ground up to be played online.
BuddyPress seems like way more than I'd need/want.

All I really want is a login page that matches the standard template (or a sidebar widget) that allows a user to login, and then redirects them back to the index page, or whatever page they were on before. I don't mind the idea of them seeing the dashboard so much, I just don't like the way the design changes when they move to the dashboard. It's a bad user experience.

I don't need to expressly disable the dashboard for these users, I just need to "hide" it. They could still get to it if they navigate there, but I'd rather it all be behind the scenes.

I'd still have to make my own custom "edit profile" page with this approach, though.

I'll look around for plugins that do this, I suppose.

edit: This seems like it could work: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/weasels-login-redirection/

Inverse Icarus fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Nov 20, 2009

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