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Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
I'm applying for the courier position too. I was actually looking through this thread to see if anyone had any information about it and saw that you guys were already at it. But yeah, any info anyone has? Would a recent grad with 3.5 years of computing lab work for his university and a summer working at an office in Beijing have a shot?

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Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Oh, great heads-up. I'm actually having that resume service in SA Mart do mine right now, should have something today or tomorrow so I'll get on that. Thanks

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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Vilerat, tell the whole class about serving there, please!

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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So, I submitted an application for the courier job about two and a half weeks ago - how long does it usually take for them to decide if you can take the exam, or whatever the next step is? It's been on "Eligible - referring to hiring official" or whatever for a while now.

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Oct 21, 2008

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Yeah, I kind of feel like I'm qualified - but barely - and if anyone has experience doing anything, then I'm up for some stiff competition.

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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A question about DC postings - is it worth buying a house while you're there? I mean, you'll be in and out of DC your whole career so maybe...but it seems like it'd be wasted when you're gone. Rent it out maybe? What do most people do?

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Oct 21, 2008

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So, it's barely been a month and a half since I submitted my application online, so this is going to sound really impatient - but I've been going on the time frame someone mentioned before of 4-5 months for a response and I'm working if it's ever shorter than that. Has anyone heard a response to a job there in like two months? It's for the courier position, btw.

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Oct 21, 2008

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What do you mean by Exempted Service?

And thanks for the info

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Oct 21, 2008

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Anyone get any updates on that courier position from a while back?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Is that for the generalist position?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Yeah, it's been answered previously in the thread, but I don't feel like searching for it. Rest assured, it is an embassy in every regard except name.

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Oct 21, 2008

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I'm not an FSO or anything, but I would think an MPA would be more appropriate.

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Oct 21, 2008

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hayden. posted:

Unfortunately employer's tuition reimbursement will only apply to business oriented degrees. I don't think paying entirely out of pocket for an MPA as opposed to a completely free MBA is really the best option for me, but if anyone else has feedback on how the two might compare I'd really appreciate it.

Point taken.

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Oct 21, 2008

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...so, United's position is that Private Jones' tabby makes bigger sacrifices and takes bigger risks for its country than, let's say, an assistant RSO in Kabul?

Just want to make sure I'm reading that right.

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Oct 21, 2008

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Diplomaticus posted:

Yeah we ripped the United rep a new rear end in a top hat over this.

As well you should have. Any budge?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Oh hey, question. Is going IMS > FSO that much easier than trying directly to go FSO? I know the positions have been described in the thread, I couldn't recall any advice about it though.

I guess what I'm asking is, if you have an IT background and can qualify for an IMS position, would you recommend it as the best path to becoming an FSO?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Does it matter what certification (of those they list) that you use to qualify for the IMS position or it basically just a check-box on the application?

I only ask because I'm already going for one (MCITP Server Admin 2008), but I see a lot of the others are a fair bit more involved, and I wonder if mine would be looked down upon.

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Oct 21, 2008

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Skandiaavity posted:

I think they're just checkboxes. It doesn't really matter, you can get a percentage pay increase if you get it.. after you're hired (protip: if you're already in the process, you might as well wait on it). If you get the certification before you're hired, you're ineligible for the pay increase. It's either 7 or 14% your pay.

However, MS server 2003 and 2008 may be used at Post, so it may be beneficial to have one. Your duties won't change a thing, just your knowledge on the subject. State can also pay for additional training, and that sometimes includes the actual microsoft certificates. That's why I suggest you wait if you're in the process.

TBQH, the CISSP (which is kind of useless as a cert due to the crazy requirements FYI), is fairly useful because it covers a wide range of topics - most which are used as an IMS. If you get the ISC or Gold book on it and understand all the content in it, you should be well prepared for training.

Well, this is my first cert off that list, so I need to finish it before I even apply for IMS. But that's good to know about not getting anymore immediately after until I'm in. I can see a clear progression to the MCITP Enterprise admin cert, which could bring about the pay bump.

If/when I really get this cert and get my application in, I'll make sure to grab one of those books for CISSP and look through it. I know it had been mentioned earlier in the thread that the technical assessment, while not hardcore, went into backups and some security stuff, which I really have no formal training in (though for some reason the IT company I work for has been having me be in charge of for the 4 months since I started there...).

Thanks for the info, really.

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Oct 21, 2008

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So, I've seen it mentioned off-handedly in the thread before, but no one seemed to go into much detail. I was wondering about getting residence in States that don't have an income tax before you begin working abroad. From my research, it looks like there are seven States without an income tax:

Alaska
Florida
Nevada
South Dakota
Texas
Washington
Wyoming

I guess my first question is - is this legal? Just becoming a resident so you can then leave and avoid taxes, it sounds a little fishy.

And the other question is - how do you go about becoming a resident in a short period of time? Is it just get an address in order to get a drivers license and change your voter registration, usually?

I don't have a job abroad or anything, I was just curious how it all works.

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Oct 21, 2008

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Don't know if this is okay for the thread, but it seemed like a good place to ask - are there any good online Masters in Int'l Relations programs out there? Looks like a couple MPA programs which might be useful, but I don't see much IR

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Oct 21, 2008

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AKA Pseudonym posted:

You now have until September 19th to apply for your chance to join the increasingly absurd number of Foreign Service IT goons:

http://careers.state.gov/specialist/vacancy-announcements/ims?source=govdelivery

drat. Was hoping to have my cert done by the next vacancy. They seem to be every ~6 months or so tho, so it's not too bad.

Barracuda Bang!
Oct 21, 2008

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I haven't known what to say yet, but what happened to Vilerat has been gripping me since TCD's first post about it that day. I never met him personally, or even had any direct communication with him, but I read updates to this thread multiple times a day, and I absolutely feel like I lost a friend, even though he probably wouldn't recognize the name Barracuda Bang!. I'm so sorry this happened.

That said, the outpouring of support in both the SA and Eve communities has been incredibly touching and makes me proud to be a part of what we otherwise denigrate as being some silly online-only geek hangout. I think if Vilerat were able to see the community reaction, he too would be filled with nothing but intense pride.

Vilerat wont be forgotten. Goonspeed, friend.

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Oct 21, 2008

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CherryCola posted:

I'm wondering if Urdu could mean that I'd go to Pakistan OR India, because there are large populations of Urdu speakers in both countries.

That's an interesting question. Are there language-designated positions for unofficial or minority languages at posts? I mean, obviously you'd have to cover official languages of countries that have more than one, but what about - for instance - Cantonese at the Guangzhou consulate?

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Oct 21, 2008

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I'm taking the written in February. Did I see current FSOs in this thread offering to read drafts of the QEP answers for applicants? I'm getting ahead of myself, but I figured I'd ask.

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Oct 21, 2008

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Zoots posted:

Yeah - count me in for that too. Send me a PM if you have plat.

Diplomaticus posted:

Yeah several of us are willing.


Well, you dudes (dudettes?) are awesome. Fingers-crossed that I'll be in a position to take you all up on it.

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Oct 21, 2008

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Diplomaticus posted:

There are certain paths that lead to higher/"better" positions in the foreign service. I saw a promotions list recently that indicated which generalist cones and specialist fields were promoted in which numbers (and to which grades), but I don't have the link unfortunately.

If you do run across that info again, would you mind posting it here?

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Oct 21, 2008

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TouchyMcFeely posted:

Just got confirmation that I'll be sitting for the FSOT in February but my girlfriend didn't. We both registered at the same time for the same test so I'm not sure what the deal is.

Still excited as hell but I'm hoping she'll get her confirmation soon.

I read somewhere that the scheduling invites go in a certain order by cone and people in differing cones can get the email a couple days apart.

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Oct 21, 2008

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I didn't get mine either yet. Consular cone, fwiw

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Oct 21, 2008

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TouchyMcFeely posted:

That's the same cone she's going for. I signed up for Management so hopefully that's all it is.

February 9th, 9am I get to find out how smart I am! Woohoo!

I remember seeing it somewhere in the yahoo group stuff, but hell if I can recall where exactly.

Do they display your results as soon as your done on the computer, by the way? Or is that impossible with the biographical stuff?

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Oct 21, 2008

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I know there's a way for FSSs to convert to FSOs, but is there any way for FSOs to change to FSSs?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Continuous posted:

I focused mostly on a newspaper (New York Times) and a news magazine (The New Yorker) for my prep, and thought that they gave me a good enough general background.

Just keep in mind that the Job Knowledge section is only 1 of 4 parts, and isn't necessarily the most important part of the test.

What would you say is most important then?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Leaving for my FSOT now. Wish me luck!

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Oct 21, 2008

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Skandiaavity posted:

send you a reply.

Barracuda Bang, how'd you feel in the FSOT?

I thought it went really well. I walked in expecting the US history and American government stuff to be a breeze and everything else to be tough, but those were the questions that tripped me up the most. Not like I had no idea, but more than once I was down to two answers and had to just pick one.

For the biographical stuff was tricky. I answered them all truthfully, but sometimes when they wanted like four examples, I had no way how to fit it into 200 characters. I ended up sounding kind of generic for some, which I'm hoping isn't the opposite of what they're looking for.

The essay went way better than I thought too - I thought that's what I'd stress the most. The only problem is that I tried to use all my leftover time to proofread and hit the "submit answer" button with like 3 seconds left, and it took me to the "end section" window, but before I could hit that button, it ended the test.

I'm like 90% sure it registered my answer, but...

edit: and thanks for the good luck, guys!

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Oct 21, 2008

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SCRwM posted:

After my OA last week my wife and I went to a place called Chopped. It's a salad place and wasn't too bad. Not sure if there is one near FSI or not but just thought I'd throw the name out there.

Also the Starbucks at George Mason gave my flashbacks to some of my Poli Sci courses I took in college.

That's a fast-spreading chain here in NYC. There's also a clone called Just Salad, but I have no idea which came first.

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So, I recall there being something stating that an FSO can only receive a full course of a Hard or Super Hard language twice in their careers, with a possibility of a third. But is there a limit to how many times you can receive training for less difficult languages?

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Oct 21, 2008

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Just found out I passed the FSOT.

Onward!

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Oct 21, 2008

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Does your score on the FSOT matter beyond passing or failing? Like, does a high FSOT score translate into an overall higher score once on the register?

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Oct 21, 2008

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I know some people offered to proofread PNQs. If they're due March 20th, by when would you guys want to receive them by? I don't want to send them out the day before or anything. Would you guys think a week is enough time for you to look at them? Ten days?

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Oct 21, 2008

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So, my PNQs are ready. Should I PM the people who said they'd check them over for their email addresses?

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Oct 21, 2008

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I've read that the QEP looks at your complete application package, but does that mean they look at your FSOT score?

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