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SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Well, poo poo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugobr5fVuoE

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SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

Dudes could settle down and release something mediocre any time now. It has to be exhausting being this good every time they walk into a studio.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Nothing on PIII has grabbed me at all which sucks since I liked II and A&O a lot. I also have to be in a certain mood for Periphery so maybe I'll try it again later.

Wamsutta posted:

The new Despised Icon record is loving rowdy, ya'll

This is disturbingly good though

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
New Hellions is some next-level poo poo, quickly shooting into my all-time favorites list. I'll be very surprised if anything tops this for me this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pNkBKAxzHs

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

XIII posted:

I meant to say something about this album a couple days ago. It's solid as gently caress, as is every Hellions release, but I can't help but feel like all of their tunes just sound too much alike.

I dunno, I could see that to an extent with Indian Summer, but I don't get that at all on Opera Oblivia. Every track is an absolute banger in its own way and the album's all over the place stylistically. Like, Bad Way (the last track I posted) sounds like The Mars Volta or RHCP made a hardcore track, where this is closer to La Dispute or Defeater brand melodic hardcore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVOK-Oml86g

...and this is basically a mid-2000s alt-rock/emo track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_okH6fSVPE

...and the lead single is all over the place on its own, with traditional hardcore verses leading into that massive chorus and the perfect interlude toward the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chRQtf6fxoQ

gently caress, I love this album. I could make a case for every track being the best. That huge singalong on 24, that post-chorus breakdown in Nightliner Rhapsody, the whole album is pretty much perfect.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

ICHIBAHN posted:

Seen them live a few times, always blew me away. The guy who said their tour and album cycles were like hristmas had it dead on. I was gearing up, getting into their albums again in anticipation of the new stuff when I read they're splitting. Gutted. I'm also gutted I'll not get to see them again, until their innevitable reunion. The new song is unreal, hopefully the album is just as good. Now I have a gap to fill, who sounds most like DEP? I've got a list here including Meshuggah, Coalesce, Botch, Norma Jean, Converge, Rolo Tomassi... none of them quite reach DEP's levels. Is there anyone out there?

I haven't been 100% sold on every Dillinger album, but honestly they're so uniquely DEP that I've never heard anyone that even comes close to matching their sound. There are plenty of bands who are influenced by them but none that manage their style. I think it's that they have such a huge range of influences that nobody really tries to lift their sound wholesale because it would be such a blatant ripoff. Instead we get [prog core band x] taking Dillinger's quirky Mr. Bungle influences and running with them, while [mathcore band y] takes the polyrhythmic chaos and [technical hardcore band z] takes the destructive breakdowns and live show insanity. All three of them have clear Dillinger influences in one form or another, but none of them really sound like Dillinger.

Related, goddamn Option Paralysis was a good album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl3PlpadymI

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
A few corethings I've liked this year, not really in any order

Vanna - All Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ5YacpvT1E

Hellions - Opera Oblivia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14xJQ504-ms

Despised Icon - Beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spDK2MedUYY

Harm/Shelter - Paycheck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtbU90AOykg

Spite - Spite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notLgmmzpSM

And yeah all the singles XIII mentioned, plus Knocked Loose.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Meridional and Redeemer > Everything besides The Anti Mother > The Anti Mother.

Every time I listen to Wrongdoers I think "Hm this sure is a neat album I should listen to it more often" and then I don't. I get similar vibes from Polar Similar so far, though a couple moments have made me take notice more than usual.

e: also this thing is streaming:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-2q1nJCj-0

Jesus Christ.

SchwarzeKrieg fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Sep 12, 2016

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Grindcore works here right? Because dude from Cattle Decapitation did this thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pm6g1a3R0s

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Golly gee, this certainly is a tour.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Watched the ETID tour last night. In a shocking turn of events, they crushed. IDK how they get better every time I see them, I'm old and tired and hoarse and want to sleep all day just from watching them.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Hello thread this is some music that I listen to, it is angry and allows me to live vicariously through other people who are presumably jumping around and spin kicking and whatnot while I am building spreadsheets at work anyway this has been a good conversation thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcU0uAmeZvs

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
How is Eighteen Visions this good in 2017?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFDy4tPbepE

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
New Eighteen Visions album is up on Spotify/YouTube/etc. Straight up AOTY material.

This gives me some serious Alice In Chains vibes which is unexpected but awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Gqt3TvlbY

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

xZAOx posted:

Nah, not just you. I don't mind listening to the "how can we fill time until the next breakdown" bands, but it's not stuff I'll pay for, if that makes sense.

To be honest though, I don't think I listen to much that qualifies as deathcore in the first place. More into the metalcore, technical metal, whatever poo poo like Locust, Daughters, and Sawtooth Grin are.

Agreed. I can generally deal with a breakdown-factory deathcore song here or there if they show up in shuffle or are playing at a friend's house, but it's nothing I would go out of my way to listen to. Even TAS bores me after a few tracks.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Today is stacked. New '68 was released too and also rules. Only sorta -core-y but whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nOic5O6qvE

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
tbh if you don't spend every weekend blasting tough guy hardcore at the gym and crowdkilling treadmill pussies you shouldn't even listen to anything with harsh vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2elrTBacYGo

Also I'm trying to remember a band from 2006-or-07-ish and coming up completely blank. I don't even remember much about them really but the album popped into my head a few days ago and it's been driving me crazy, they were a smaller band, I wanna say it was a "The _____" name and the second word started with a C, or an O? And they played a semi-progressive but fairly straightforward style of -core that was popular at the time, a lot of clean & harsh vocal switching and I think a bit of ETID-style southern rock riffs. No idea if they had more than one album. I think the cover was largely blue with maybe a picture of the earth or something? Kind of a long shot and I could be wrong on most of the details even, but hey it's worth a shot because few things in life are more important than mediocre metalcore music from a decade ago.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Nope and nope, although I hadn't heard The Ocean and they're pretty cool so thanks for that. The band I'm thinking of was a lot more straightforward and stupid scene bullshitty, bright colors and trendy style, melodeath-inspired riffs and whatnot. The progressive influences were very minor and mainly in relation to song structures not being completely verse/chorus/repeat.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

Kelp Me! posted:

Glad you like em, the Ocean are awesome and were my intro into some of the weirder post-metal like Giant Squid and Cult of Luna.

Are you sure it was The followed by 1 word with C or O? All I can think of off the top of my head is The Overseer, tbh.

I was a letter off! It was The Demonstration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ESKt9-B_Cw

Kinda stupid, kinda still rules. Guitar work is actually fairly awesome.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Actually I'm an idiot and accidentally listened to MMF's album that was just released "Shadows Inside" instead of the one mentioned before so uhhh yeah. It kinda sounds like something Haste the Day would have released in 2007 so that's pretty cool.

Ah cool I thought I was the only one that kept confusing Memphis May Fire with Miss May I. But yeah that's not actually an MMF album.

One of my favorite lesser-known southern-core bands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxv0Ai2zZBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsGyQq0GarE

SchwarzeKrieg fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Jun 12, 2017

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Impossibility is definitely cool, but I've always like their self titled the most. The songs are longer on there which some people might not like, but the drumming and riffing on that album are loving out of this world.

:agreed:

The s/t is one of the best albums to come from that whole mid-2000s NWOAHM movement (god what an awful acronym but I don't know that Chimaira really counts as metalcore so whatever).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mhB8Qku4jk

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Been really digging Northern Ghost's debut lately. Nothing groundbreaking but has a lot of strong Sepmiternal and Define the Great Line vibes. Lyrics get a little melodramatic at times but real fun otherwise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htY8uRy-E4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDRxopx6CBw

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Thrashy hardcore with a lot of gang vocals is the best because I can both pretend I'm real mad about things and also pretend I actually have friends that I'm shouting along with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXtub2ry0Zc

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

Eight Is Legend posted:

Exactly how I feel about them. Also they seem like solid dudes based on the crowd they hang out with it.

They also come across really well on Facebook - they seem genuinely excited about the whole music scene, and they frequently post about any new music coming out that they like. MYOH and Rising Sun are genuinely great and earned them a lot of goodwill with me, and I've enjoyed all of their newer albums to varying extents. Only Death Is Real is great in a few places and dumb fun in most others. The track with Keith Buckley rules, of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDu3qECc91Y

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

Stelio Kontos posted:

The latest 36 Crazyfists has some real solid grooves on it, I know their vocal style isn't for everyone but this album really jams.

Yeah I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing the reception here because Brock is a beast of a vocalist and both their most recent and Time and Trauma are absolute top-tier radio metalcore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVzOhJhFecc

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

kumba posted:

Yeah imo the vocals in that are absolutely awful, top tier radio metalcore is like being the king of diarrhea

Eh I got into heavy music with Atreyu and Killswitch Engage (and old 36CF actually) so I have a soft spot for buttrock/metalcore lite garbage. I maintain that Brock's vocals are great and unique in an "I want to blow Daryl Palumbo" kind of way, and dudes write immensely fun and catchy music. Basically, praise unto Brock Lindow, God Emperor of All Diarrheacore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLkm-Bpkgv4

They haven't really been a -core band since like 2005 but the new TBDM is good. Basically the exact same thing they've been doing for 10 years but with better and more memorable songwriting. It's made me go back through their discography again at least; I usually listen to each album as it's released, think "yep that's real good," then forget everything I just heard. Can confirm: everything between Nocturnal and Nightbringers is good and I don't care if I ever hear it again. Will be jamming Nightbringers for awhile though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxtdphvP5k

SchwarzeKrieg fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Oct 14, 2017

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Most -core bands suck poo poo tbh I've just accepted that I like some awful music.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Beatdown hardcore is the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS8U3A2LdhY

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
This year has been ridiculous, yeah. Trying not to post a wall of YouTube videos but here are some things I enjoyed that aren't on the playlist:

Get the Shot - Infinite Punishment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXtub2ry0Zc

Incited - Year of Filth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcU0uAmeZvs

Iron Raegan - Crossover Ministry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg9JnTr1SfY

'Sabella - Dog Daze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fZgmjfTUms

Power Trip - Nightmare Logic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOWf8uqGf8A

Also, these:
Code Orange - Forever
Trapped Under Ice - Heatwave
Zao - Pyrrhic Victory
Gideon - Cursed
Stray From the Path - Only Death is Real
Benighted - Necrobreed (technically brutal death metal I guess but it's pretty close to deathcore, and real good)


e: whoops forgot about the dumbest/best band
Nasty - Realigion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkK2WkJA-Cs

SchwarzeKrieg fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Nov 7, 2017

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Looked through my 2017 playlist, some more things I forgot about from this year:

Slope - Losin' Grip (Turnstile-ish 'classic' hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLGr_rz9nwM

Watch Out Stampede - SVTVNIC (extremely underrated, fun straightforward metalcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXoyEwHx5XI

Northern Ghost - Happy : Sad : Depressed : Suicidal (Sempiternal worship, some real good tracks, some real cheesy tracks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htY8uRy-E4M

Mensis - Life Is A Nightmare (gently caress yeah gym shorts and floor punches)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dIHW3WngOY

Artificial Language - The Observer (maybe not -core but have a few elements, progressive metal with big The Human Abstract vibes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSQwY50qr8

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
I get bored listening to StYG for more than 1.5ish songs but they seem like they'd be pleasant enough live. I'm stupid hyped for KL/Terror together. Anyone here going to the Columbus show?

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
There's a new Underoath thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlDVOIO1rIA

It's alright.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
New TRUSTcompany single is pretty boring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1a_oMPswM

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Hey look, a new Bleeding Through single.
It is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUOAU6td1kc

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
The Agony Scene are teasing new material on Facebook and I'm unreasonably excited. One of my favorite mid-2000s At The Gates-core bands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfYB7nuSv_w

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
In non-Emmure news, new Agony Scene track is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ7Ao2ZZVNc

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Probably not a popular opinion in the metalcore thread, but: I don't get the Parkway Drive thing because I've always thought their -core aspects were the weakest part of their music and that they would be an absolute AAA metal band if they dropped the breakdowns and focused on riffs and songwriting. Instead they dropped the riffs AND the breakdowns and decided to make mediocre buttrock. :sad:

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
Spotify used to have a Christian lite-rock/RnB Nails listed on the same page as Nails.



It was fantastic.

SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009
New Bleeding Through is great, best of their career honestly. Between that, Eighteen Visions last year, and The Agony Scene coming up soon, I'm loving that all these mid 2000s core bands are getting back together and putting out even better material than they were during their heyday.

In AOTY news, Jason Butler (letlive. frontman) has a new hardcore band called Pressure Cracks. They just dropped an EP and it loving rips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzwCipj42FE

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SchwarzeKrieg
Apr 15, 2009

xZAOx posted:

He's a Christian again guys, it's okay.

Speaking of, seeing Zao tonight, woo. I haven't seen them in probably 15 years. Hell I don't think I've seen a live show at all in 7 or 8 Maybe?

I hung out with their original drummer a few weeks ago but didn't realize who it was. We bs'd about music and what a cool guy Andy Williams is then I went home and slept. The next day I was like "I wonder who that Jesse guy wa-oooh yeah it's THAT Jesse guy."

That's my Zao story thanks for reading.

That AILD track kills.

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