Vonnegut Asterisk posted:

I see a lot of posts on Wrestlehut about guys who should turn heel because they're more awesome that way. I want answers on the reverse: who only works as a face and sucks as a heel?

The answers I bring to the table are:

Khali
Tommy Dreamer
Sting
Jeff Hardy

Wazzu posted:

They didn't use light tubes, panes of glass or the especially stupid match types. CZW goes too far, following the lead of FMW.

Free Market Gravy posted:

I think he went back to teaching (could be wrong). I don't think TNA ever really wanted him (nor did he want to be a full-time wrestler at that point) and the WWE would never have had a place for him. His entire draw in ECW was that he was the little, goofy scrawny guy who could slay the giants. What goofy, scrawny guy in the WWE has ever been successful or gotten a lot of screen time, even as a comedy character? Vince loves his giants and would never let them be slayed, so that left Spike to get over as a serious wrestler. You can imagine how well that would work.

GOP posted:

Also, New Jack was CZW before CZW was cool. But he was charismatic and crazy enough to be talentless.

TL posted:

Honestly, I sometimes wonder what the Attitude Era would have sounded like if Gorilla and Jesse were still calling it. When Jesse came out to do PBP for that Raw before Summerslam 99 I got goosebumps from being so excited to hear him behind the mic.

Jerusalem posted:

Gorilla was great for reacting to people and having his color guys bounce lines off of him. He tended to repeat the "spontaneous" lines over and over again over the years, but he had a great voice and his,"Oh will you stop!" was always fun to hear.

Rusty Shackelford posted:

Because he's been dead for 10 years?

Fallon posted:

Stop bragging

Anyway content: What drugs that aren't roids do people think wrestlers have done? I think New Jack has done crack, Morrison has done LSD, Jeff has done crystal meth, and everyone in the 80s was on coke.

nyratk1 posted:

Terri Runnels

KungFu Grip posted:

Sapphire also picked the Million Dollar Man.

rotinaj posted:

What's Raven up to these days?

MassRayPer posted:

Did you win it for predicting how many times he'd use the word tremendous in a given week?

Wazzu posted:

You know what's a terrible idea? A super-heavyweight title.

Foul Fowl posted:

How exactly did people realize wrestling was fake? I don't watch it and I don't live in the U.S., but I heard people thought it was real like 20 years ago.

Was it just a gradual process or a GREAT REVEAL or what?

LividLiquid posted:

That book is also full of glaring inaccuracies. I have old Nitros on tape that they talk about and poo poo happens very, very differently on more-than-a-few instances.

I enjoyed the read, but it's hardly a trustworthy source.

WeaselWeaz posted:

You, Nash, Kevin Sullivan, and many others can't see the forest through the trees. The argument that Kellner/AOL/the accountant's didn't want wrestling is part of the issue, but the main reason is that they didn't want a huge money-loser as part of the merged company. WCW still got good ratings for cable TV, but had giant contracts and was millions in the red. Hell, if Kellner knew details about WCW he would know that the contracts were heavily favored towards the talent and the business only had a few years of profitability in the decade or so Turner owned it.

WeaselWeaz posted:

But I'm not blaming Russo for the death of WCW either. He was just another nail in the coffin and no one person is responsible for WCW's death.

Gr1mm posted:

People seem to forget that the Wolfpac was over as gently caress.

Writer Cath posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WZ_7GZgpaM

Remember how loving over Kidman was?

Captain Charisma posted:

Regardless, it was loving stupid. They were trying to get Dr. Death, a guy who could do real wrestling, over. So they book a SHOOT tournament where you box

Kulex posted:

So here's a question I've always been somewhat curious about. Does anyone know why the nWo said, 'Too sweet,' the way they did? I always thought it was something peculiar.

HulkaMatt posted:

He was a plus for some entrances.

Then again that was a pretty great entrance for Goldberg.

EvilMuppet posted:

It's neither of those, it comes from one of Foley's books. He's making fun of a wrestler (whose name I can't recall)

Jerusalem posted:

And the joke in the book was about how when Foley was desperately hoping for a call from WWF, his Dad told him that someone called Pat Patterson had rung about a job. Foley got all excited then figured it might be a prank, so asked if the man had trouble with pluralization, and his Dad said yes. So Foley got all excited and thought Patterson was going to give him a job (and I think even called Patterson!) until he found out it was Shane Douglas, who had left a message along the lines of,"Tells Micks Foleys thats thes WWFs woulds likes tos gives hims as jobses."

Axissillian posted:

I dunno, the longer Kurt is gone from the WWE the more batshit insane on pills he gets.

Jerusalem posted:

You can't even say that Bret is the craziest Canadian because BAM, Chris Benoit took that bullet for him.

triplexpac posted:

It comes from the Monday Night Wars, I think. Bischoff was obsessed over Nitro's ratings beating Raw, and that attitude has carried over. Vince even said on the Monday Night Wars dvd that he really didn't care that much about ratings until Nitro came along.

Psychlone posted:

Is Abdullah the Butcher in the Hall of Fame yet? If not, he deserves to me. I'd add Ivan Koloff and Bruiser Brody to that list too.

Karmine posted:

Plus, and this is kinda hosed up but, Brody's story kinda makes the business look sleazy.

Look I'm a progressive guy but "got stabbed in Puerto Rico" probably doesn't send the message Vince wants to send.

ultimateforce posted:

They would have to sell baseball bats as their weapons and it would be even worse than HHH's sledgehammer of doom.

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

Also in case you are not sped up on Hassan, the Undertaker essentially kayfabe killed him at Great American Bash '05 by Last Riding him through the stage. The guy who played him has pretty much dropped off the face of the Earth, not a peep from him that I can find since then--which suggests he either left on bad terms or decided to be a plumber or something.

Batmanuel posted:

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ColeM posted:

Okay I have one: What was the Katie Vick storyline?

WeaselWeaz posted:

Billy Gunn was a mid-carder for life, and the feud with The Rock designed to make him a main event heel was doomed from day one. Still, he had a good body and was acceptable in the ring, so they kept him around for years after that.

Karmine posted:

The hugest reaction I've ever heard for any single sound was when the glass shattered when Austin ran in on the Rock/Mankind match where Mankind first won the title.

Holy loving poo poo pops like that don't happen anymore.

The Cosby Mysteries posted:

Jerusalem posted:

His testicles.

atamarav posted:

I loved the Homicide title chase storyline throughout the last half of 2006, culminating with his big emotional win at Final Battle 2006. My question is why is it that he had such a ridiculously short title reign right after?

grody but still def posted:

triple h/shawn michaels

Meat Recital posted:

The New Age Outlaws did too I think, but they weren't as harsh as other members of the clique and Vince's inner circle, but they did call him a mark for himself and for the belt. It's been a while since I watched that shoot though, so I'm probably a bit off.